Harry and Meghan make surprise phone calls to young leaders in the US

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I actually really liked this video, it’s them doing what they have always done best. I want to see more things like this, hope it marks a change in tactics.

It also has a very “royal” feel: e.g. there have been recent reports about a split but they’re not arguing in the gutter they’re rising above it and proving them wrong, they’re using their spotlight to shine onto other people, etc.

Only criticism: why are they filming people on the phone?! Makes me think of The Apprentice 😂 use Zoom!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-young-leaders-surprise-call-b2386408.html

This thread is wild! A couple of people made a phone call. I’ve been involved with charities and this is just a normal kind of thing, that helps the organization and cause. I just don’t see how they can be criticized for it.

Also, MM looks great!

I don't think I asked for your opinion on anything, but I'm interested to hear how the poster justifies her claim that Harry 'personally' is massively interesting. Spotify dropped them and all his 'work' in the past 3 years has been royal related. Where's the evidence that he himself is 'personally' interesting to people all over the world?

Everybody - I apologise.

The numbers for SUITS is for an aquired show.

But - I think aquired or not, 3.1b and increasing are good numbers for a show that was first aired in 2011.

The people who do not like them really spit feathers at their successes.

Not sure how or why that photo got attached!

The people who do not like them really spit feathers at their successes.

Not really. If you’re going to make a bold claim people are going to point out if it’s not correct.

I’m sure those who do admire them can handle a correction on facts.

Nobody would give a fuck about boring old Charles and Anne if they weren't royals either. What can any of them do about it?

@Iwantcakeeveryday I don't know why that made me laugh but it did 🤣
At least Harry is making it on his own and for that I admire him. Yeah yeah, I get what the comments will be on that... he keeps talking about the RF. Well, he hasn't lately, has he.

They are exploring different avenues, this Responsible Tech Fund for Youth is bloody brilliant, despite detractors on here knocking it in a very mean spirited and nasty way.
H&M need to finance themselves, they don't have the good old british public paying for them, so good on them. Brave move leaving, and well done him telling us why he left.

We don't often agree I know, but your post is spot on! 👍

off to online shop for caramel and camel coloured clothes

Oh gawd, hook line and sinker. Funnily enough the main outcome is money for Harry and not much else

I’m glad you’ve enjoyed their content though, all £ appreciated I’m sure

Look @IcedPurple - we will have to agree to disagree.

For you - he is underachieving, gossip mongrel and is not interesting.

(Having said that, you are a prolific poster on all threads related to him or MM so I need to square that circle somehow.)

In interviews, to me, he seems thoughtful, intelligent, and as emotionally honest as he can be in the circumstances.

I see him as an underdog.

I see him as an unexpected success!

I know you don't. And that is fine.

I listed out, in a previous post, what I think his achievements are.

what does 'royal related' mean though. Because you've ruled out anything created when he was a working royal, even Invictus which is not about being a royal but being a soldier. He is 'personally' interesting, of course he is. Because of who he is. Which is of course many things, including and more interestingly, being a British royal and then, crucially, marrying an African American actress, leaving the institution and suing the press. Its not just 'being a royal'. You can't separate him from any part of his identity and say, now he's not interesting. I do find all their charity initiatives really interesting, because they're largely grassroots charities that they highlight and most I hadn't;t already heard of.

I’m not spitting feathers at their success at all - I think it’s pretty clear that making Suits available on Netflix and heavily plugging it (WME meets Netflix and talks win win, I am sure!) has been a canny move for all parties as Meghan’s much higher profile will mean a lot of new viewers might be enticed to start watching he show out of curiosity.

However, if they’ve stayed watching (and I have always read that Netflix tracks its audience figures very closely, and keeps a really keen eye on how many people start watching something and then watch all the way through to the end) then with the greatest of respect to Meghan, that’s because of the entertainment value of the show as a whole, and not her personal drawcard. The show was always an ensemble cast, and Meghan’s character was a part of the ensemble, but not the lead protagonist. If the show in its entirety is being so heavily streamed, that’s a testament to its whole cast, writers and production crew, not just Meghan - I can’t imagine many people would watch 90 or so hours of a tv series series (there were 9 seasons…) just because they are curious about some of the scenes featuring one of the characters.

But, as I said, it’s smart marketing. I hope they are all getting residuals from Netflix.

Whistleblowers don’t risk their jobs to tell the public that the deputy manager is circumcised, which intern they lost their virginity to, or which of the boss’s children gets the best bedroom. It is 100% gossip.

Others see it as someone leaving a powerful privileged and wealthy institution and telling his story about why he had to and what it's really like. What to some is gossip, to others is whistleblowing and exposing an archaic institution for the damaging outdated cult it is.

This is the biggest fiction peddled by both Meghan and her and their fans. They didn’t actually want to leave the wealth and privilege. They wanted a half-in, half out deal where they had access to all of that and could exploit it commercially for their own benefit. When they got told no, they then came up with the narrative that they had to leave. Plenty of us recall the history perfectly well and haven’t needed to rewrite it.

Well its very clearly not 100% gossip, have you even read it? Is all the army stuff, which takes up much of it, gossip? The stuff about his mental health throughout the book, is that gossip?

The papers already wrote about their circumcisions, why aren't you angry at them? the amount of shit Harry gets for that here and none of it is directed at the press.

Please do not get unnecessarily personal and patronising. Theres really no need. I am entitled to my opinion. That doesn't mean I am peddling fiction or rewriting history. I ma giving MY perspective. You have no idea of the details of any alternate arrangement either.

The papers already wrote about their circumcisions, why aren't you angry at them? the amount of shit Harry gets for that here and none of it is directed at the press.

The Press are horrific, that’s a given, but Spare was a massive personal betrayal of trust by Harry of the confidential and private information that he only had because he was formerly a close and trusted family member.

The fact that he also expressly said that none of it might be terribly accurate, while making several damning allegations and recounting several conversations as if they were verbatim was I also thought a really unfair thing to do.

What's the opposite of 'fans' I wonder Serenster?

Have you a word? Because I am always vexed by this.

calling people 'fans' is a way to dismiss their opinions.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion of course, iwantcakeeveryday. If you post it on a public discussion board, and its based on something that is factually inaccurate, others are perfectly entitled to point that out.

Have you a word? Because I am always vexed by this.

I thought you’d reach for “haters” in those circumstances, Roussette. Am I wrong? 😉

But your post about them leaving was your opinion. You are going by what the media says, not by what you actually know. Unless you were in the room when discussions were taking place you don't know.

Did H&M say to you 'I want to commercially exploit the RF?' No.
I recall it perfectly well, and my opinion on it all is different to yours

Yes, you are wrong. Do not attribute that to me, thanks.

Detractors is the best I can come up with. You use the word 'fans' in a derogatory way quite obviously

I really doubt that a Charles, William, Catherine or Camilla book/docu series would sell like that.

To be honest, I* *think a William book, warts and all, would totally eclipse Harrys' book.

You are going by what the media says, not by what you actually know

I am going by their published manifesto in their own words of exactly what they wanted and how they intended to achieve it. But I suspect you know that.

I’ve read most of the thread. Aren’t these surprise calls what they were doing at the beginning when they first left? Almost feels like they’re Going Back To The Drawing Board and starting again. I don’t think they can be redeemed tbh. You see many celebrities screw up and then somehow PR magic gets everyone back on side - usually with some tale of immense victimhood or just repeatedly showing them being humble and lovely. None of these tactics seem to work for M & H do they? And I do wonder why not. Harry was genuinely loved by the British public, he’s Diana’s son. How is it he cannot make his way back and bring Meghan with him? I find their whole narrative fascinating,