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Oprah, H and M.

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lapisamethyst · 01/07/2023 19:42

Are they considered close friends? And Gayle, Oprah's bestie, is she still on side H&M...she appears to have gone quiet.
Or has the now known lies from their Oprah interview changed their friendship I wonder?
It all seemed so pally but did it stand the test of time?

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LadyBird1973 · 05/10/2023 21:28

I don't think her sim should be to dismantle, but establishing actual truth, as opposed to 'their' truth, is a basic requirement for someone of Oprah's calibre

Mylovelygreendress · 05/10/2023 22:11

“To be honest I don’t actually remember the Oprah interview., it was so long ago”

That made me smile . The OW interview was less than 3 years ago and deemed “ so long ago” yet posters still refer to interviews by Diana, Charles and Sarah 30 years ago !!

MissElinorDashwood · 05/10/2023 22:49

Mylovelygreendress · 05/10/2023 22:11

“To be honest I don’t actually remember the Oprah interview., it was so long ago”

That made me smile . The OW interview was less than 3 years ago and deemed “ so long ago” yet posters still refer to interviews by Diana, Charles and Sarah 30 years ago !!

Not sure what point you’re trying to make. What does that have to do with me?

I imagine those posters have watched it since or read about it or watched clips or have an impeccable memory.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2023 11:26

LadyBird1973 · 05/10/2023 21:28

I don't think her sim should be to dismantle, but establishing actual truth, as opposed to 'their' truth, is a basic requirement for someone of Oprah's calibre

You'd think so wouldn't you? But sadly this is the way far too many "interviews" are conducted these days, with thoughtful enquiry giving way to silly puff pieces - which is perhaps partly why Maitlis's masterclass stood out so well

In any case I rather doubt Oprah would have got her "scoop" in the first place, had H&M learned it was going to be more incisive

everetting · 06/10/2023 11:39

It happened nearly three years ago. A lot has happened since then. The Queen died, we have a new king and Queen. We have had lots of prime ministers. Lots of worldwide disasters.
An interview nearly three years ago is pretty forgettable. I watched it, but I don't remember that much now.

oaktreeswing · 06/10/2023 12:00

In any case I rather doubt Oprah would have got her "scoop" in the first place, had H&M learned it was going to be more incisive

If they are making toddlers sign NDAs, they're hardly going to subject themselves to an interview with a real journalist!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2023 12:55

I expect the toddlers themselves got away without having to sign, @oaktreeswingWink, but had to smile at "Neither I nor my representatives shall directly or through any publicity representative or otherwise, circulate, publish or otherwise disseminate and news story, article, book, or other publicity relating to Producer, the Project, my participation in the Project, or the subject matter of this Appearance Release. I agree not to make negative, derogatory, or otherwise unfavourable statements about, or otherwise denigrate or disparage, and of the Released Parties"

As with the Knauf/Scobie emails it's perhaps a shame for them that these things are there in black and white, though I wonder if their disclosure counts as a breach - and if so whether that'll be another stack of court cases?

(Edited for typo on disclosure)

Serenster · 06/10/2023 13:33

I wonder if their disclosure counts as a breach - and if so whether that'll be another stack of court cases?

The emails and the document were disclosed under the relevant US Freedom of Information Act. Being compelled by law to disclose something is always an exception to an NDA - even if it’s not specified in the terms of the agreement, a court would not uphold an NDA that purported to compel the signatory to break the law.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/10/2023 13:40

everetting · 06/10/2023 11:39

It happened nearly three years ago. A lot has happened since then. The Queen died, we have a new king and Queen. We have had lots of prime ministers. Lots of worldwide disasters.
An interview nearly three years ago is pretty forgettable. I watched it, but I don't remember that much now.

And yet some posters still bang on about the interviews Diana, Charles and Sarah did in the 90s 🤷‍♀️

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/10/2023 14:07

Serenster · 06/10/2023 13:33

I wonder if their disclosure counts as a breach - and if so whether that'll be another stack of court cases?

The emails and the document were disclosed under the relevant US Freedom of Information Act. Being compelled by law to disclose something is always an exception to an NDA - even if it’s not specified in the terms of the agreement, a court would not uphold an NDA that purported to compel the signatory to break the law.

Once again many thanks, Serenster - I have to say it's ruddy useful having someone on here who knows about these things Smile

Serenster · 06/10/2023 15:49

On topic - I always thought Oprah had a bit of a conflict of interest when it came to Meghan and Harry (having happily accepted the invitation to he Royal Wedding and been sat in the VIP seats for the whole event it would have been very tricky for her to then play a proper independent journalist role) so the “fireside chat” format was probably the most appropriate.

Sagharbor · 06/10/2023 22:27

LadyBird1973 · 05/10/2023 08:37

@Sagharbor I don't care who Oprah interviews, but I would expect her to actually interview them - you know, to ask questions that challenge the interviewees.
The 'interview' she did with H&M wasn't robust at all and was unworthy of her skills. Literally anyone could have done it.

Of course not anyone would have done it. That does not make any sense. They'd need access to begin with. I assume you only think so because you feel that Oprah did not ask them the kind of questions YOU would have asked.

I imagine after running the most successful talk show on TV Oprah knew the kind of questions to ask. I'll take experience over subjective opining any day.

Sagharbor · 06/10/2023 22:42

CathyorClaire · 05/10/2023 20:58

Why would you be so quick to disregard Oprah's amazing achievements, based on an interview she did with Harry and Meghan.

Because I watched both that rather cosy love-in and compared it with Emily Maitlis's masterful dismantling of Andrew. The two don't come close.

Andrew did himself no favors in that interview.

And there's definitively no comparison between the two interviews.

LadyBird1973 · 06/10/2023 23:36

@Sagharbor obviously they have to grant access for any interview. And clearly they were not going to grant one to a journalist they perceived to be unsympathetic. That doesn't detract from the fact that anyone could have sat there and allowed them to say whatever they wanted without any questions about evidence to support their claims - they might as well have been interviewed by Holly Willoughby! Oprah's talents were wasted in that conversation.
In her shoes I would have wanted freedom to conduct a robust interview or I'd have preferred not to do it at all - Oprah is a superstar, she didn't need to agree to restrictive terms.

SarahLKelp · 16/10/2023 13:48

@Sagharbor it's not the fact she spoke to them, it's the way she soft soaped them and gave them the platform to tell so many unchallenged and dangerous lies.

Gloriously · 16/10/2023 14:59

Oprah is very strategic.

She spent years cozying up to get the scoop - it would have been huge for her mainly US but also global audience - Hollywood + Royalty.

She was cozying up to them way before any fall out with the RF.

She would also have looked at this as possibly a whole series of interviews over the forthcoming years so she wasn’t going to kill the golden goose.

I suspect that she will do at least another one with them when the timing is optimal - for her.

I also thought it amusing that she was straight out of the blocks the next morning after The Queen died when she set up an interview with Gayle King to distance herself from the impact of the H&M ‘bombshell interview’ - which until that day had served her brand and bank balance well .... but when she got a measure of the deep respect the world had for The Queen - she suddenly spoke out trying to mitigate any reputational damage to her own brand when she saw where public sentiment lay.

Someone as powerful, wise and strategic as OW who has built her empire up from dust rightly doesn’t trust easily and wouldn’t be ‘friends’ with such emotionally incontinent characters such as H&M. Far too much risk. However she would have a transactional business relationship.

When will the next OW interview be with H&M? When the dust has settled and they have re-established themselves in the LA scene? Or when MM launches her tell-all .... or PH releases a follow up?

Its just the entertainment business.

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