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MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 11:24

AutumnCrow · 18/06/2023 11:19

That's why I assume it has a counter-balance crash-and-burn story lined up. It could have been sitting on a lot of this stuff for ages, and has published it today because it also knows that it has a 'Duchess Dior Dreams Dashed' story ready to go.

Even if it was always going to be handbags, the Mail can spin it as 'No Glamour Gowns for Duchess! A Source Reveals Handbag Deal Only Shame'.

You know how it works.

Doesn’t Meghan and Harry employ this tactic of leaking something before it’s actually happened? Like their statement about being half in half out, and that they would continue to retain their IPP status, without consulting or confirming with the palace first. I feel this is almost like a pressure tactic of sorts. Or they’re confident enough that Dior is going to or have already offered Meghan a deal and she’s leaking it as PR control to distract from the Spotify news.

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millymae · 18/06/2023 11:25

So much debate on here. I know nothing about how PR works, spinning etc but common sense tells me that all is not well between H and M and that the marriage is going to go the same way as his fathers first one.

I don’t believe every word that’s printed in the papers but I’m sure that at one time it was implied that relations began to sour between Harry and his brother when William suggested that he should not rush into marriage with Megan. He was right. As a couple they are worlds apart and when you add in Megan’s lack of family contact with other than her mum and Harry’s sense of entitlement and privilege that comes from being Royal there were always going to be difficulties in them forming a happy partnership.

Without being unkind Harry doesn’t come over as the brightest spark on the planet and I can’t help thinking that he’s been led down a one way street by Megan who knows what she wants and is being ruthless in achieving it. In recent weeks she certainly hasn’t shown herself to be publically supportive of him

The humanitarian causes they give their support to as a couple and individually haven’t registered with me but I can’t help thinking that had they really wanted to help the world could have achieved far more by remaining within the Royal Family even allowing for the slimming down of the monarchy. They certainly wouldn’t have been left destitute and having to sell their story for money and I’m sure Megan could have found a way to negotiate a degree of independence for herself.

Flocider · 18/06/2023 11:26

maranella · 18/06/2023 11:16

I was REALLY surprised to see this article as the leader today, after an article disparaging them was the leader yesterday. But the whole thing was clearly written by their PR people, all the guff about how wonderful and wise and clever and strategic Ari Emanuel is and how he can make a success out of anyone/anything. It was very strange.

Its a back handed compliment really, it's the PR firm saying how amazing they are and all of their successes with quotes about well if I can't make her successful and get good deals then no one can. It will make the inevitable failure to secure Dior or whatever else even worse.

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 11:29

Samcro · 18/06/2023 11:23

sorry where did I attack you? I was just pointing out that you can't police the views of posters who post on a thread you start.

A poster addressed me on the first page and mentioned about people here being bullies to the Sussexes. She criticised me first and I only responded. She was actually policing me by calling me a bully for snarking on the Sussexes.

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GobbolinoCat · 18/06/2023 11:30

She's extremely beautiful and duchess of dior has a fabulous ring to it.

Gingers crossed its true.

GobbolinoCat · 18/06/2023 11:30

Fingers!! Fingers crossed crossed it stays true apologises 😳

BastetsWhiskers · 18/06/2023 11:32

GobbolinoCat · 18/06/2023 11:30

Fingers!! Fingers crossed crossed it stays true apologises 😳

🤣 glad you corrected, I was temporarily worried about which gingers you were referring to!

maranella · 18/06/2023 11:32

Yes, you're probably right @AutumnCrow.

The DM is, after all, one of the papers that H&M refuse to speak to and one of the groups that Harry is suing!

Serenster · 18/06/2023 11:33

skullbabe · 18/06/2023 11:13

Ah, so this is what Meghan is paying WME for - a positive puff piece to counter all the negative articles that appeared yesterday

Because the DM are well known to print puff pieces about the Sussexes.

The DM will print content that brings them clicks. They have absolutely no consistency in thier positions in doing so - they never have.

PilatesHippo · 18/06/2023 11:35

Wow, I was hoping to read about MM and Dior and it seems to be a thread about bullying?

I think she would look wonderful in the clothes. She is very beautiful, instantly recognisable and a different from the Monaco royal family member (also very beautiful but more traditional, as in blond and skinny).

I think MM in the past has worn some clothes which may not have fitted perfectly, but surely that would be fixed if she became a brand ambassador? She doesn’t have an hourglass figure and she isn’t extremely thin - like so many women - but if a high end brand cannot make their clothes look good on one of the most beautiful women in the world, I think they should hire a new design team.

@Hohohogreenjennie do you have a link to the Tig archive at all, I would love to read it.

Flocider · 18/06/2023 11:38

maranella · 18/06/2023 11:32

Yes, you're probably right @AutumnCrow.

The DM is, after all, one of the papers that H&M refuse to speak to and one of the groups that Harry is suing!

Harry refuses to speak to, Meghan has had a few articles published via her PR firm over the years.

OrchidsBlooming · 18/06/2023 11:42

I saw this as a stab in the back by the DM. Day 1 story of them as grifters, then Day 2 Duchess of Dior emphasis on 'if' it happens.

So now Dior need to decide do they really want to sign a 'grifter'. They have a history with Depp of standing by controversial figures but then Depp was already on their books and arguebly more famous or at least famous for his acting as opposed to just being.

DM will love being able to have a future headline that their story on them being grifters potentially harmed her chances with Dior. DM have prefected the art of a positive story with negative undertones!

Elior · 18/06/2023 11:43

I know many people who regularly buy Dior and while her small group of fans may speak gushingly about her appearance, are they actually going to go out and splurge on Dior if she fronts a campaign?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it is those with the purchasing power whose preferences will carry more weight.

mateysmum · 18/06/2023 11:43

Can't say I like Meghan and I wish Harry would just stop whinging, but I don't wish them ill. If a big brand is happy to sign MM up, then good for her. If she can make money without complaining about everything to do with the royal family then that's a win win. Though it pisses me off that this is essentially milking her "royal" status. This new agent she has is clearly very skilled at what they do. Spotify and Netflix look like they may be false starts so it makes sense for MM to go in a different direction.
Meanwhile, Harry just seems stuck on a treadmill of accusation and recrimination which is not appealing and more importantly does not seem to be making him happy, and it must be costing him a fortune.

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GobbolinoCat · 18/06/2023 11:44

Pilates agree.. Would be very interesting to see. Beautiful lady.

BadgerB · 18/06/2023 11:44

My2pence2day · Today 07:47
I think the difference is people on MN don't know H&M at all, that's where it starts to get quite disturbing.
This again! They are public figures who put out statements/books/interviews. Are we not to comment because we've never met them personally?

All the things you talk about (which you don't even know if they are true as it's all tabloid BS) are actual interactions with people who know each other..
Presumably the person who said they are "F.....ing griffters" knows them personally....so it's OK to take that as true? It's not in the tabloids - yet.

Tudorfish · 18/06/2023 11:45

It seems a little unlikely though. Dior’s main ambassadors (Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman) are people who regularly make red carpet appearances at movie events - like Natalie Portman recently making a stunning appearance at Cannes in a dress remade from one of Christian Dior’s classic archive designs

If Dior sign MM then their PR machine will get her onto the red carpets. And front row at their fashion shows.

Before she was signed by Gucci, Charlotte Casiraghi was only famous for being Princess Grace's granddaughter. Now she's a Chanel rep and regularly shows up on red carpets, Cannes and the Met Gala.

Wasn't Lady Helen Windsir an ambassador for Armani?

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 11:45

Doesn’t Meghan and Harry employ this tactic of leaking something before it’s actually happened? Like their statement about being half in half out, and that they would continue to retain their IPP status, without consulting or confirming with the palace first

well, that backfired spectacularly on them, didn’t it?

bit of a risk to try it again.

MedievalMadness · 18/06/2023 11:45

It sounds like a positive press release from her PR to distance herself from the Spotify debacle and also her husband and his toxicity. Which imo, is smart of her to do so

Exactly this. The ‘They are all anyone is talking about in Hollywood ‘, ‘after this no one will remember a couple of podcasts’ etc, are pure PR damage limitation. The whole thing is to try retip the balance in her favour after being called a grifter and having her podcasts axed and an attempt to shift the reputation of being focussed on being unable to move on from an unhappy past, onto Harry’s shoulders and off hers.

IcedPurple · 18/06/2023 11:46

Jemandthehologramsunite · 18/06/2023 10:15

You're delusional. She's one of the most recognisable people in the world, let alone being absolutely stunning. I don't even like her, but even I have eyes 😅

You really think she's massively famous in say, Japan or China? What is the basis for that fame? What does she mean to the young Asian women who are a major target of prestige fashion brands?

As for 'absolutely stunning', that's subjective. I think she's very pretty but not 'absolutely stunning.' Even if she was, California is full of gorgeous women. Being 'absolutely stunning' isn't enough to score a lucrative contract with a top fashion house.

Coconutsandpalmtrees · 18/06/2023 11:46

If she starts working with Dior, that will be the last thing I ever buy from them. I hope many others will also boycott them.

It has been reported by many staff members that she is a bully. Many have quit working for her.

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 11:46

GobbolinoCat · 18/06/2023 11:30

She's extremely beautiful and duchess of dior has a fabulous ring to it.

Gingers crossed its true.

Is Harry angry again?!!🤪

Tudorfish · 18/06/2023 11:47

If she starts working with Dior, that will be the last thing I ever buy from them. I hope many others will also boycott them

That's funny!

Serenster · 18/06/2023 11:47

Also, Dior doesn’t use its brand ambassadors to persuade you and me to buy Dior Couture. That’s clearly not very likely, and the people who do buy it won’t be swayed by mass market advertising.

What they do want to do is create the image that their brand is beautiful, chic, glamorous and desirable, and the choice of beautiful and glamorous people, so that the mass market buy their handbags/cosmetics/sunglasses/perfumes. Which is actually where their profit is mostly derived from.

It’s interesting to speculate where Meghan might fit in here. She has a very good hit rate in terms of people buying what she wears, but that’s when its something accessible. As I said earlier, she’s also not frequently seen at events where Dior gowns are really going to be worn. So she’s more likely to seen as a good promoter of accessories, maybe? Dior handbags don’t really use celebrities for their handbag advertising - they use fashion models, mostly. Ditto sunglasses. So, beauty or fragrances? They have a full roster for both, but things always change.

I can see it being a bit of an influencer relationship where she is photographed out and about with her Dior bags and her Dior sunglasses, and that gets posted on a revamped Tig. I think it’s unlikely she’d be an appointed ambassador now. As others said, it makes more sense she’d had been approached earlier than now if Dior was keen. But who knows what will happen?

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