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tigger2022 · 18/06/2023 14:10

I could be projecting but I don’t think it’s fair to have a go at Meghan for cutting people off or suggest she’s a user. All of the cutting off came AFTER Harry, and we all know cutting off relationships and becoming isolated is a symptom of being in a toxic relationship

justsaxy · 18/06/2023 14:10

@MamoruHisaishi

I already apologised for coming across as harsh. frankly though I'm getting annoyed at the Sussex fans here having a near melt down because people are criticising the Sussexes, and trying to shut down their opinions by calling it bullying.

You may have already said sorry, but that doesn't stop it being harsh. Sorry isn't a magic eraser. You are not a child and you should be able to realize that your words could have an impact. Especially when the poster has explained why.

You are posting on a public forum. If you can't accept that some people don't share the same opinion as you, or that they have the right to discuss their different views... maybe you need to rethink you you engage on threads.

I am not a Sussex fan. But, I do feel that you are being particularly unkind, and I have the right to point that out to you.

pilates · 18/06/2023 14:10

Thanks @Hohohogreenjennie just what I always wanted 🥱😀

IcedPurple · 18/06/2023 14:11

tigger2022 · 18/06/2023 14:10

I could be projecting but I don’t think it’s fair to have a go at Meghan for cutting people off or suggest she’s a user. All of the cutting off came AFTER Harry, and we all know cutting off relationships and becoming isolated is a symptom of being in a toxic relationship

And yet Harry is the one who has become physically and emotionally isolated from almost all his family and old friendship group since marrying Meghan.

AutumnCrow · 18/06/2023 14:16

IcedPurple · 18/06/2023 14:11

And yet Harry is the one who has become physically and emotionally isolated from almost all his family and old friendship group since marrying Meghan.

I would guess that Charles is keeping the door open for Harry. As possibly is Thomas Markle for Meghan? Parents can be extraordinarily forgiving of prodigals.

It would make more sense for H&M to forge some kind of 'apart, together' family and business relationship though. They would all be stronger together. And that would be a brand winner, hands down.

unbelieveable22 · 18/06/2023 14:27

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 12:14

Speaking of being obsessive compulsive, you seem strangely obsessed with how many posts me and other posters here have made on Harry and Meghan. What’s it to you? Does it affect you badly if people criticise Meghan and Harry? Why do you care so much what i do or what other posters do? And seriously, going to all that trouble of counting threads about the Sussexes and how many posters have created them? Like, why? Lol. And please, Harry has definitely not been silent. How long ago was the documentary, the book, and the legal cases?

Hardly rocket science now was it? All of 2 minutes max. A quick look at first page in which over half of the threads are about H&M something that's obvious from the title. A quick click on any title shows who thread starter is.
Not difficult or time consuming. I'm sure both are discussed on other threads as some cannot seem to comment on anything in this section without mentioning them.

You're right to ask, what is it to me? Absolutely nothing. It was just an observation as I sat with my coffee. Nothing obsessive about it. Indeed I'm quite perplexed at some of your questions and 'observations'.
I would be uncomfortable with any person or persons getting the abuse, accusations, distortions, suppositions and everything else directed at H&M. The obsessiveness of some is disturbing to say the least. Yes H&M made some mistakes but are any of us perfect?
I will continue to read and observe and possibly even comment again. I am eagerly awaiting the promised contribution from @MrsMaxdeWinter Now there's a poster whose contributions are worth reading. So glad they are back. Kept cool under intense provocation.
Good luck to both H&M in whatever they decide to do going forward either together or separately.

Kedece2410 · 18/06/2023 14:29

She will go back to an image of a strong, successful woman who built her own career

But she didn't. How many folk had heard of her because of her acting roles. She's become famous by marrying into one of the most famous families in the world. That's hardly building a career

Hohohogreenjennie · 18/06/2023 14:32

@pilates 😳🫣😩 oh FFS! Sorry about that! 🤣was meant to be for @PilatesHippo

googlejourney · 18/06/2023 14:35

Good luck to Meghan, I wish her well, as long as she's not profiting out of hurting other people and disrupting families I think being the face of Dior would suit her well, she's beautiful and stylish and has a keen fan base. I would respect her for a deal like this.
She seems to be moving forward positively.

I'm not sure Harry suits her new brand though, stuck in the past, bitter and determined to make everyone pay for his awfully unhappy life, scowling and unhappy wherever he goes. I can see why she has distanced herself from him....

He's not the salt to her pepper anymore.

Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 14:40

@googlejourney

They’re more salt and vinegar these days

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WasabiWinner · 18/06/2023 14:49

Kedece2410 · 18/06/2023 14:29

She will go back to an image of a strong, successful woman who built her own career

But she didn't. How many folk had heard of her because of her acting roles. She's become famous by marrying into one of the most famous families in the world. That's hardly building a career

Yes, from a purely factually point of view there's a reason why she is referred to as 'the Suits star'. That's all she's done.

There are many like her, who have had ONE hit role in a long-running TV series which hasn't translated to major long-term success. Navi Rawat (N3umbers), Beth Riesgraf (Leverage), Jenna Fischer (The Office).

Compare this to people like Emilia Clarke, Jodie Comer, Anya Taylor-Joy, Mindy Kaling. Ok, well Mindy not really known purely as an 'actress' but they have won multiple awards and have a stream of high profile work.

Freefall212 · 18/06/2023 14:55

tigger2022 · 18/06/2023 14:10

I could be projecting but I don’t think it’s fair to have a go at Meghan for cutting people off or suggest she’s a user. All of the cutting off came AFTER Harry, and we all know cutting off relationships and becoming isolated is a symptom of being in a toxic relationship

No it didn't. She dated in TV producer circles, working connections to get jobs. She married a producer. There was an article on the connections she made in Britain of people close to the RF well before ever meeting Harry. Misha Nonoo for one who knew Eugenie and introduced them, and whose boyfriend/ husband / ex-husband went to school with Harry, and his brother dated Pippa Middleton. She is very good at networking and working her way into circles and connections that will benefit her and then leaving those connections behind when she no longer needs them. She has always been a social climber, first using her dad and his money and connections, then boyfriends and her first husband, and then Misha Nonoo and Jessica Mulroney and other very well connected people to get to Harry.

Yet when they went to LA, it was Tyler Perry a complete stranger to them that helped them out. She clearly hadn't maintained any of those previous relationships well enough to call on them for help or for them to reach out with support when they moved back to California.

MumHereForTheDrama · 18/06/2023 15:32

I too shall stop buying Dior Blush

Peverellshire · 18/06/2023 15:43

GlorianaCervixia · 18/06/2023 07:45

Valentine Low's book is about the people who work for the royal family. Harry and Meghan are just a small part of his book. He has never said he wants to destroy Meghan, that's completely untrue.

The irony of complaining that Harry and Meghan are being bullied while making up outright lies about someone else is astounding.

FWIW, I have had some contact with V Low, he demonstrated integrity, professionalism & compassion, as well as being a good journalist.

CoffeeCantata · 18/06/2023 15:45

I can't see this happening. Meghan, whatever you think of her, has too tarnished an image to be of any use to Dior. I think her image has slipped into notoriety now, rather than fame and glamour and the negative connotations have been brought on by Meghan and Harry themselves. They'd be hard-pressed to blame anyone else for their current predicament with any plausibility.

It don't like Meghan but I do think she's pretty (not beautiful - that's a whole different level) and has an enviable figure, but so do many glamorous and famous women and Dior will be after more than that. And surely, in the weird world of fashion PR, Meghan is too old at 41/41?

Boulshired · 18/06/2023 15:50

All I want is for them (mainly Harry) to stop making money off slating the royal family. It’s good all round if they can earn enough wealth to support their huge overheads as if they can’t it can be guaranteed that the UK will somehow end up paying the huge upcoming cost of educating and protecting their children. Happy for Meghan if she gets a Dior campaign as it will be a step closer to ending this circus. But I do think that many want the failure as they are enjoying the circus- which I’m guilty of as well.

Peverellshire · 18/06/2023 15:56

On a practical level isn’t she on the shorter side for couture/catwalk stuff? I think she’ll get the gig.

Gracewithoutend · 18/06/2023 15:56

DreamTheMoors · 18/06/2023 04:07

@MamoruHisaishi

The rumour of Meghan bullying staff was put out by Jason Knauf - to tank her. It was a lie. Everybody knows it was a lie. It’s been known as a lie for years. It isn’t arguable.

And yes - we all have a right to say what we want, except to yell “fire!!” in a theater. We need to prioritise whether we want to put out positive or negative energy into the world.

I’ll never understand the hatred for someone people don’t know, will never meet and who has absolutely no effect on their lives whatsoever.

It’s absurd.

I don't know it's a lie. William worked in the office same office and he thought it was true. He was annoyed about how she was treating people.

AutumnCrow · 18/06/2023 15:56

Although won't she rather just end up doing perfume ads?

'Sparkle! by Dior. Sweet notes of liberation and newness. Holding a space for you to define yourself'. <Cuts to anthemic music by Labi Siffre / Sam Smith / Gaga / Coldplay>

She's got a good interlude voice for that kind of ad.

LadyMuckingabout · 18/06/2023 16:05

Perhaps it is Archie and Lilibet who will wear the Dior stuff; presumably they do children’s clothes? Archie & Lilibet are not tainted by their parent’s’ shenanigans and, of course, have the Prince and Princess titles.

queenofarles · 18/06/2023 16:11

If she starts working with Dior, that will be the last thing I ever buy from them. I hope many others will also boycott them
why?
I shop at Dior so did my mother and now my dd is very interested in them too,
core customers don’t really care who are the brand ambassadors in other continents are ,nor are they much influenced by what Celebes wear.
customers start placing orders straight after the runway shows and before any celebs even get to try anything.
meghan adds nothing nor takes anything from Dior , it won’t be a bud light kind of response for sure.

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 16:21

justsaxy · 18/06/2023 14:10

@MamoruHisaishi

I already apologised for coming across as harsh. frankly though I'm getting annoyed at the Sussex fans here having a near melt down because people are criticising the Sussexes, and trying to shut down their opinions by calling it bullying.

You may have already said sorry, but that doesn't stop it being harsh. Sorry isn't a magic eraser. You are not a child and you should be able to realize that your words could have an impact. Especially when the poster has explained why.

You are posting on a public forum. If you can't accept that some people don't share the same opinion as you, or that they have the right to discuss their different views... maybe you need to rethink you you engage on threads.

I am not a Sussex fan. But, I do feel that you are being particularly unkind, and I have the right to point that out to you.

No she was accusing me of being a bully because I was snarking on the Sussexes. It wasn’t merely her posting her opinion that didn’t agree with my own. That’s why her comment was removed, and yes mine was too, but again that was only a response to her accusation. I think you’re being unkind yourself, I’m asking you to please stop trying to attack me for defending myself against her accusation. Please? Is that too much to ask? Can I be left alone to post my thoughts here without being attacked first?

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Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 16:23

Dior are hardly going to dump Jennifer Lawrence who is 10 years younger, with loads of awards, A+list and who can also rock a white shirt for Meghan

Ellaelle · 18/06/2023 16:25

So exciting! Very happy for princess Meghan what a fabulous opportunity, this will make a lot of people cry though lol I hope she laughs all the way to the bank!

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