Harry - what next?

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

You need to be curious about other people, and Meghan seems rather self obsessed.

This feels true about her. She can act empathy but it feels more about her being empathetic than really understanding someone else.
Curiosity about others doesn't seem to come across.

But I can see why insta influencer would suit her. That's all about self projection of perfectness and she is good at that.

I just wonder if she's poisoned the well before she's started & her image is too negative to get a real insta following? Or whether people follow you whether they like you or not and it's just numbers that matter?

I am never convinced that the late Queen had favourites among her children or grandchildren. I have never heard where those suppositions have come from. I can see that they are all different and some might take up more of her time and thoughts and guidance at different times of their lives, as in many families I expect. I can quite see that when William was an older teenager, second in line to the throne, bereaved of his mother, and at school at Eton, going to tea with granny just over the bridge in Windsor was useful to both of them. I think I have read that it happened but I don't think it meant that HM loved him any more than any of the other g/ch, any more than she had a favourite child out of her 4.

Goop has been done and dusted. The Goop store in the UK is now closed due to lack of sales. GP practised what she preached and the Goop brand genuinely reflected her wackiness and devotion to wellness fads and the privileged, kooky Californian upbringing she can genuinely claim to have had. It was a labour of love, the early profits were the icing on the cake, not the main goal.

Meghan cannot just come along and copy the concept and expect the same success.

Possible but not that straightforward....

AFAIK he's never held any civilian licences or ratings, he hasn't got a lot of hours and probably worse of all he hasn't flown anything for years, so well out of currency/recency.

To do any flying in the States the Feds (in the form of the FAA) would probably (and rightly) insist he went almost back to square one - i.e. back to flying school at some level to brush up on the book work/academics, US specific exams, also re-hone practical skills and then he'd have to find an employer..

..also FWIW helicopter flying is not a lucrative gig at all but it would get him out of the house.

The archetype podcast could have been much better. I only listened to bits, so maybe it was better than I thought, But she often interrupted guests and brought the conversation back to herself, rather then letting them talk more.
Harry is apparantly not very bright (evidence of going to one of the best schools in UK, and only getting Art and Geography at A level), or at least not very academic, which is not exactly the same thing.
From his book, it would appear Harry was always a rebel - he 'enjoyed' not knowing or caring about any history, etc.
I really do not think he is living the life he would have wanted. I would have seen him in Africa somewhere, maybe conservation, etc. Wildlife tours, etc
However, that didn't happen, so I would suggest Meghan try the voice overs, other documentary types (not about themselves). The trouble is, I do not think Harry actually likes doing any real work. They do not seem to be very creative.
We have since learned that a lot of the archetype work was done by the producers. It seemed Meghan did not put in as much work as it takes.
I understand her lifestyle blog ('Tig'?) is being resurrected, so an influencer, maybe... but I am told this is actually hard work.
There must be better ways of earning money than slagging off your family...

They really f*ed up, didn’t they!
They could have had a lovely life if only they weren’t so reactive and impulsive.
(and selfish)

Achieving fame and money are what keeps bloggers working hard and keeps their regulars faithful to it as the blog grows. Here, it is a reverse situation. Somebody who has been handed wealth and fame wants more of it and has brought back a blog from the dead to use as a funding vehicle for a lifestyle they cannot afford, haven't earned or even deserve.

Who would want to follow it now? The internet is full of yummy mummy bloggers who are often ex-models and much younger with gorgeous lifestyles they seem to have built up through their own efforts. Nobody wants inspo about love and family from people who have been bitter and mean about their families to make money and documented it all ... for money.

GP practised what she preached and the Goop brand genuinely reflected her wackiness and devotion to wellness fads and the privileged, kooky Californian upbringing she can genuinely claim to have had

Yes at least Gwenth Paltrow seems to have a sense of humour, and some self awareness, something this pair seem to be sorely lacking.

Harry would have been so much happier moving to Africa with Chelsy and doing wildife/charity work. There would be nothing like the press attention he currently gets and that along with doing full time hands on work would reduce his drug habit and substantially improve his mental health.

I think their root problem seems to be rushing (plus of course the fact that they left just at the start of a pandemic which affected momentum and planning.) Even before the marriage they don't seem to have sat down and really thought about their place in the family and what they could focus on, hitting the ground running is very vague. They had plenty of time ahead of them but it always feels to me like they don't think that way.

I watched a documentary about a Princess Anne at 70 and she was speaking about her work with Save the Children. She started at 21 and said she spent the first five years learning about the work of the charity before she even made a speech. She also said that she couldn't change anything but she could draw attention to the people who were changing things.

I think that if Harry and Meghan had taken time to talk with some advisors they trusted about their plans and difficulties they may have left in a way that launched them more successfully. I would have loved to see them spend some years thinking and learning about their different areas of interests and the variety of charities involved in each area. They could have done a kind of internship at each one they were attracted to, seeing things from grassroots and up and then thought about how they could bring their public profile to best to amplify the work the charity was doing.

They could have done great work either in or out of the Royal family if they had focused. I don't think it is too late for them, they just need to stop speaking about the royals publicly, and turn their focus to be more outward and positive. Harry already has Invictus which is a great arena for him to campaign and bring awareness.

Maybe too a little downsizing would help, even with the money they have their life style seems in excess of their income.

I hope they do take a step back to move beyond the past, find some peace and focus how they want to go from here. I think that Meghan is possibly further along that path than Harry

@Isthisreasonable , you are going to bring the wrath of job down on your head if certain posters see that!

I’m old enough to remember when Princess Anne and Val Singleton did a Blue Peter Special in Africa!

PA was only 20.

https://www.bbc.com/historyofthebbc/anniversaries/april/blue-peter-royal-safari/

what grandparent would ever be nasty enough to tell one GC they were the favourite, knowing how all the others would feel?

My GM made it very obvious who her favourites were, and it wasn't me and my siblings; but then she was nasty.

Harry is full of shit, his grandmother was a diplomat, she would have never said that

Umm, hi??

I'm not sure what that post had to do with me though?

It just reflects his own jealous streak. he has to be the favourite grandson, the most popular royal of all time, the less bald brother of the two and so on

Don't forget, the only one who married for love! 🙄

Yes! The one who resembled his mother the most out of the two even though he never looked anything like her

And the only one not trapped

Quite @Elior , actually when you tot up all the rhubarb he's come out with , I'm really surprised anyone can A keep defending him and. B keep a straight face!

@Wheresthebeach 👍

😂It explains how he ended up marrying someone for whom a whole nation danced in the streets when hearing about their wedding in the UK and for who the pilot and cabin crew delivered a hero's ovation.

Favouring can be very subtle, not necessarily explicit, obvious bias. My grandmother loves / loved us all dearly and unconditionally, but when we were kids I think she was always the tiiiiniest bit softer and more indulgent towards my older brother who's like Harry – fiery, lots of difficulties and angst growing up. I think that's reasonable and natural for a grandmother.

I agree. He said for years he wanted to live there.

the Queen might have been an elderly woman, not in the best of health, but she was very, very smart. And very well-briefed. I think they massively underestimated that

IMO the mistake they made was thinking that HM would make the decision as DGM of a loved DGS, not as monarch and head of the institution.