Harry - what next?

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

@MrsGusset : you are a genius.
It could be a quasi religion, a sort of wellness church?

It seems to be that there is a theme to their output and that theme is limited both in its appeal and its range . It can only be repeated so often and then new content is needed. There is so much of this online now and indeed people can become a "coach" or mentor in these matters with little or no qualifications. People grow tired of negativity especially from people who are wealthy. People were ready to listen when Spare came out as it was gossipy but now it is old news.Who knows what holds for the pair of them.

what the future holds

I think they need to find something that they are for, rather than basing their brand on what they are against

It might not bring in enough money though, and they might not have the qualifications immediately, and need to do some sustained work to build up the qualifications/credibility in that field

I think that's a good point, @Milcar .
It's a livelihood based on being negative about the royal family, so something more positive would definitely be better.

I have a friend who’s making a small fortune from puppy yoga. Seriously. Breeders bring puppies to the studio and the punters do yoga holding a puppy

Stop the world somebody, I want to get off
I don't understand how the friend makes money on this though - surely people aren't paying to watch her doing this?!!

But WME have already seen that keep talking about the RF isn't the way to go. That's why they've announced they won't do that anymore. But what else can they do that sells?
Personally, I think they'll come up with ideas. WME will be onto that. I'm pretty sure that Netflix said that Harry and Meghan had exciting ideas in the pipeline but didn't give any more info. I think WSJ said those ideas had been submitted abd rejected. So who knows.
But I don't think there'll be any announcements now til the documentary on the Invictus Games has been trailed. I'm looking forward to seeing what the luminously brilliant Ari Emanuel has come up with for her. (I wonder if he wakes up with night sweats? 🤣)

The problem is that neither Harry nor Meghan have any real skills. Meghan was an actress, but at nearly 40, was still in rather minor roles, and it seemed unlikely to ever make the 'A' list (so to speak).
Harry's skills? Well, after 2 rather bad 'A' levels, and a stint in the military, he has not really done anything, apart from the usual royal stuff.
They have no experience of producing podcasts, and obviously did not realise how much work goes into each episode, especially as they were offered a huge anount to start with.
Currently their brand is trashing the royals and how hard both their lives have been, which is rather limited.
I suspect their royal stories will get more lurid and outlandish just to keep the money rolling in. However, although the royals 'never complain, never explain' up to now, does not mean they will continue to do so.

The trouble is negative sells in the short term, and if they are going to maintain their chosen lifestyle they need the money soon.

Becoming credible in the long term doesn't meet that need, and also there is no guarentee it can be monetised in the long term. Some people become 'national treasures' because of their life's work, others continue to be valued by the people around them but don't spark widespread interest.

Personally I think they would be better off dropping the lifestyle ambitions and focussing on what gives them a sense of purpose. To my mind that is what makes life worthwhile. But each to their own.

Also, it's not just that they're negative, the stories and interviews get very contradictory eg are the royal family racist. So - stop the negativity and royal family bashing, and be consistent.

I think the RF are over the worst regarding Harry and Meghan, and not retaliating has proved to be the better strategy than 'you said this/well you said that'. I mean, I could come up with endless examples of how my brother got unfair better treatment 30+ years ago. I am sure he would point to just as many situations where - from his (COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!) perspective I was favoured.

The RF are continually relevant due to their constitutional position (rightly or wrongly, but Harry at least has been clear he believes in the monarchy as head of state). They don't need to generate media attention.

And Harry and Meghan have to find a way of being relevant to the public. Beyond criticising the RF (which has diminishing returns) I don't think they have found it yet

Personally I think they would be better off dropping the lifestyle ambitions and focussing on what gives them a sense of purpose. To my mind that is what makes life worthwhile

I feel the same way; however I don't aspire to a multi million dollar personal set-up and "friendships" with the glitterati, which folk could be forgiven for believing is what drives H&M right now

Minus obvious lasting skills and with various contacts getting hacked off, there may come a time when it'll be necessary to settle for a less expensive lifestyle, but can anyone imagine either being too happy with that?

@MrsGusset that would certainly tick the being positive box, being for something rather than against. Give them a sense of purpose, and help them build friendships rather than enemies.

H should have learned how to be the Head of a Church from his Granny.

@Milcar I agree the RF are over the worse of the H&M saga and they've starved them of oxygen stopping them for firing more insults. And no more big events for a long time to come.

Sir Trevor Phillips said that they "squandered opportunities" and I have to agree.
I also agree that they should try to move on now and stop with all the negativity, it's not good.

Squandered Opportunities is a very good way to put it.

Being honest I was surprised they were given massive deals from Spotify and the like, in the first place. What we're Spotify etc expecting from them?

I think it will be almost impossible for them to get big deals going forward.

I can see actually see a future scenario in which Harry embraces right wing politics. I'm not convinced his left-leaning utterings hold much conviction. They are other people's truths.

Frankly I can only see Meghan making big bucks if she releases her own tell-all book. I can’t recall whether that was in their publishing deal already. I know the Fans would go wild for her recollections (dirt) but the question is, are other people bored with the whole thing? Plus, of course, the more that is revealed, the more that A Listers draw back from them for fear of having their own secrets revealed.

my view is that the audience for Meghan’s pov is small. Tabloids would love it of course but most people will roll their eyes.
The only story I am interested in now is from William , Kate, Charles and Camilla’s. But we’ll never hear that!
I bet Camilla could write a very amusing book about the whole saga but it’s sadly a boom that will remain unwritten ( which is probably just as well!)

I'd like to read an account by Anne & Camilla. I imagine much of it would be unprintable though.

I know the Fans would go wild for her recollections (dirt)

You know wrong then. I certainly wouldn't and would say the word that is opposite for the "Fans" would be beside themselves with excitement on MN to show their disgust!

Me? Not interested!

But they would definitely all nod sagely and say it is “her truth”.

I think Meghan could have a successful fashion, lifestyle, beauty, parenting, etc. blog, as she had with The Tig. She is very well known, she has her fans, and with good guidance from WME (which surely is costing her a pretty penny), I don't see why she can't have a go. I doubt she'll repeat the popularity of Goop, but that doesn't mean that there isn't still money to be made in that space.

I don't see any value for her in raking over the royal coals yet again and I feel she's moved on anyway. Since they were booed at Prince Philip's memorial service, she was ridiculed for her 'one tear, left eye' at QEII's funeral, and members of the public shunned her when she and Harry did the walkabout with W&K, I honestly think she's done with the RF and done with Britain. She knows that if she has value and popularity it isn't here - it's in the US.

What does Harry feel about immigration? I don't think I've ever heard of his opinions on this subject, and as an immigrant to the UK, I would be interested in a link.

And the opposite of that .. 'they' would run wild with outrage.
'They' lol
Whatever she said wouldn't be believed, it would be shredded to pieces. So no point.

I thought Meghan had a book deal and was going to tell their "love story"? I'm sure that I read that in one of her magazine interviews.