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Harry and his truth

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 11:36

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

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AutumnCrow · 16/06/2023 10:09

I think seeing that list of their possible expenses brings it home to me how much I dislike Harry’s portrayal of himself as ‘just a bloke trying to fund security for his family’.

No Harry - this is about you funding a lifestyle. The security costs are minor compared to the costs of the rest of your desired lifestyle.

But ‘I’m selling family confidences to fund my lifestyle’ doesn’t sound so good, does it?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:12

The Announcement that they will no longer talk about the RF?

Can there be much else to say on the subject? Unless Harry thinks that the public would find revelations like Wills prefers blue stripy socks or Kate always has her smalls washed in Persil non-bio absolutely riveting. Or maybe Harry can't remember enough other stuff to comment on.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:12

jeffgoldblum · 16/06/2023 10:02

The problem is that to us , they seem rich but in the circle they want to move in they are comparatively poor .

How are my estimates do you reckon? 10 m PA is living expenses? Trouble is no income stream & ‘wish list’ ‘toys’ off the menu…

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:13

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:12

The Announcement that they will no longer talk about the RF?

Can there be much else to say on the subject? Unless Harry thinks that the public would find revelations like Wills prefers blue stripy socks or Kate always has her smalls washed in Persil non-bio absolutely riveting. Or maybe Harry can't remember enough other stuff to comment on.

Aren’t Spare 2 & 3 follow up book deal re: Royal revelations? 3 book deal?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:14

I think seeing that list of their possible expenses brings it home to me how much I dislike Harry’s portrayal of himself as ‘just a bloke trying to fund security for his family’

Yes I agree. It was complete bollocks.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:15

AutumnCrow · 16/06/2023 10:09

I think seeing that list of their possible expenses brings it home to me how much I dislike Harry’s portrayal of himself as ‘just a bloke trying to fund security for his family’.

No Harry - this is about you funding a lifestyle. The security costs are minor compared to the costs of the rest of your desired lifestyle.

But ‘I’m selling family confidences to fund my lifestyle’ doesn’t sound so good, does it?

Thing is with a bit of oomph & graft they could find more of an authentic income stream?

maranella · 16/06/2023 10:17

I suspect she was always easily led by whispers of money making which is why she retained a team in the US after marrying a Prince and was then seduced back hoping to use the fame to get very rich.

In the book 'Revenge',Tom Bower talks about this. IIRC MM initially let Sunshine Sachs go when she joined Harry in London, but she then re-hired them when the UK press started writing mean and horrid stories about her. Their job and that of her US pals was, of course, to provide positive stories about how wonderful, sweet, kind and naturally charitable she is.

I think Bower also said that her sleb chums were urging her to quit the RF from quite early on, saying how if she and Harry moved to the US they could easily make loadsa money just for who they are i.e. ready-made A-listers, who would be loved and feted by all. And initially that happened - the US coverage was massively positive, people believed everything they said about the mean, cold, racist old RF, they got huge deals with Netflix, Spotify and Random House for basically doing nothing - just for being who they are.

But it's like any other son or daughter of someone famous - your name will get you through the door and give you opportunities that others can only dream of - but you've then got to prove that you've got some talent, something unique, that you can generate revenue - and that's where 'call me Harry' and The Duchess of Sussex fall down, because all they have is their name. They're empty vessels.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:17

Aren’t Spare 2 & 3 follow up book deal re: Royal revelations? 3 book deal?

I'm not sure. At the time it came out, on here the consensus was that the book deal was one memoir from Harry, one from Meghan, a children's book and then some lifestyle type books. I don't know if that's still right.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/06/2023 10:03

Cyrotheraphy, sp?, the freezing chamber thing celebs have in house

For a dreadful moment there I thought you meant cryonics - as in Alcor, etc, who'll freeze you when you die on the pretence of reanimating you years later when they can cure whatever-it-was

A handy way, perhaps, for the RF to assure their own longevity, if only it wasn't all such a con ..

Well the super rich are investigating longevity, fairly seriously, so maybe you’re on to something! :) You need ££ to live high on the hog & ‘your truth’ in the after life.

Only the plebs will have to put up with third tier advertising as & when we can download our consciousness too! ;)

Iwantcakeeveryday · 16/06/2023 10:23

because all they have is their name. They're empty vessels.

Wow. Just when I thought I had heard it all. Disliking someone shouldn't;t lead to this kind of comment. Its dehumanising to refer to anyone as an empty vessel.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:26

maranella · 16/06/2023 10:17

I suspect she was always easily led by whispers of money making which is why she retained a team in the US after marrying a Prince and was then seduced back hoping to use the fame to get very rich.

In the book 'Revenge',Tom Bower talks about this. IIRC MM initially let Sunshine Sachs go when she joined Harry in London, but she then re-hired them when the UK press started writing mean and horrid stories about her. Their job and that of her US pals was, of course, to provide positive stories about how wonderful, sweet, kind and naturally charitable she is.

I think Bower also said that her sleb chums were urging her to quit the RF from quite early on, saying how if she and Harry moved to the US they could easily make loadsa money just for who they are i.e. ready-made A-listers, who would be loved and feted by all. And initially that happened - the US coverage was massively positive, people believed everything they said about the mean, cold, racist old RF, they got huge deals with Netflix, Spotify and Random House for basically doing nothing - just for being who they are.

But it's like any other son or daughter of someone famous - your name will get you through the door and give you opportunities that others can only dream of - but you've then got to prove that you've got some talent, something unique, that you can generate revenue - and that's where 'call me Harry' and The Duchess of Sussex fall down, because all they have is their name. They're empty vessels.

M is much more than an ‘empty vessel’, IMO…To get that Suits role, that most downplay, will have been almost unimaginably tough.

She’s intelligent, charismatic & focused & has the potential to deliver. Is she authentic in that does she truly love H? That, for me, is the test, if essentially honourable I think things will ultimately work out well. H can’t be easy to live as sadly so traumatised.

maranella · 16/06/2023 10:27

Iwantcakeeveryday · 16/06/2023 10:23

because all they have is their name. They're empty vessels.

Wow. Just when I thought I had heard it all. Disliking someone shouldn't;t lead to this kind of comment. Its dehumanising to refer to anyone as an empty vessel.

There's a well-known saying @Iwantcakeeveryday 'empty vessels make the most noise'. Dehumanising? Oh dear! You'll be saying I'm 'denying their existence' next.

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:27

recsw · 16/06/2023 09:29

Is there such a thing as a canine chef?! My dogs eat cr*p (literally, fox or horse for their preference) so we wouldn't need that 😀

My younger one used to eat his own poop.
with great relish…

made up this song for hiM

(to tune of Popeye the Sailor Man)

i’m La La the poopy pup
i poop and then eat it up
you haven’t misheard
cos I love a good turd
im La La the poppy pup

(name has been changed!)

Harry and his truth
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Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:28

Its dehumanising to refer to anyone as an empty vessel.

I though it was a reference to the saying 'empty vessels make the most sound' which is actually about humans.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:29

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:27

My younger one used to eat his own poop.
with great relish…

made up this song for hiM

(to tune of Popeye the Sailor Man)

i’m La La the poopy pup
i poop and then eat it up
you haven’t misheard
cos I love a good turd
im La La the poppy pup

(name has been changed!)

Super cute pooch, which breed?

maranella · 16/06/2023 10:30

M is much more than an ‘empty vessel’, IMO…To get that Suits role, that most downplay, will have been almost unimaginably tough.

Oh for heaven's sake! She was billed as #6 on that show - a legal drama on a cable channel. I have no doubt she worked hard, but she never hit the big time. She was a minor actress on a small show that most people had never heard of until she started dating PH.

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 10:31

CathyorClaire · 16/06/2023 10:00

Spotify, the mugs are reported to have paid some £18m for the podcast deal.

Looks like they've been taken for a right royal ride by the Sussex stallion.

As bonkers and as out of control as Spotify seem to be, they dont appear to have paid that upfront. It was what the whole deal was worth if they'd produced the series they'd promised.
I wonder, though, if Spotify had to pay them off in some way to break the contract or if there was a clause that allowed them to do that.
I'd really love the inside scoop on their financials. So much more interesting than broken dog bowls and necklaces...although obviously not as funny.

MayQueeen · 16/06/2023 10:33

ArcaneWireless · Today 10:04
The Announcement that they will no longer talk about the RF?

isnt this also because they have no new content about them on account of the RF now watching what they say to them?

Howsimplywonderful · 16/06/2023 10:35

Meghan said that we would get to know the real her in her Spotify podcast.

It’s been cancelled as numbers dropped dramatically in later episodes, when I guess people got to know her

She just not that interesting. Her solo ventures haven’t fared as well as Harry’s.

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:37

@Peverellshire - he’s a Westie. Had enormous ears as a pup.

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:39

AutumnCrow · 16/06/2023 10:09

I think seeing that list of their possible expenses brings it home to me how much I dislike Harry’s portrayal of himself as ‘just a bloke trying to fund security for his family’.

No Harry - this is about you funding a lifestyle. The security costs are minor compared to the costs of the rest of your desired lifestyle.

But ‘I’m selling family confidences to fund my lifestyle’ doesn’t sound so good, does it?

Didn’t Harry say, way back, that he wanted Charles to fund his lifestyle (including his mansion purchase) because he wanted to pass his own money to Archie (this was before Lilibet)

ot stunned me at the time, so I hope I’ve remembered correctly.

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Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 10:39

She just not that interesting. Her solo ventures haven’t fared as well as Harry’s.

She doesn't have as many royal stories to tell. It turns out the RF did the right thing by not being too sociable with her. 😄

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:40

maranella · 16/06/2023 10:30

M is much more than an ‘empty vessel’, IMO…To get that Suits role, that most downplay, will have been almost unimaginably tough.

Oh for heaven's sake! She was billed as #6 on that show - a legal drama on a cable channel. I have no doubt she worked hard, but she never hit the big time. She was a minor actress on a small show that most people had never heard of until she started dating PH.

To get the role in first place? I have some insight, it’s unimaginably tough just because of the insane competition. That’s just one factor.

It would be a huge deal & great income & many, many rejected despite being a ‘face’ on better known show, if not a main character. Look at all the ‘resting’ waiters/waitresses in Hollywood/LA…Many wannabe actresses effectively on the scrapheap at 25, despite being beautiful & talented.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 10:41

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:37

@Peverellshire - he’s a Westie. Had enormous ears as a pup.

Gorg x

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 10:42

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 16/06/2023 10:14

I think seeing that list of their possible expenses brings it home to me how much I dislike Harry’s portrayal of himself as ‘just a bloke trying to fund security for his family’

Yes I agree. It was complete bollocks.

Clearly that lasted as long as “just call me Harry”

thinks…
reconsiders…

no on second thoughtjust call me Prince Harry
or Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex
or HRH Prince Harry

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