Harry and his truth

[TrashyPanda]

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

Oh I am aware that it doesn't mean they we're going to do this ... but after what has happened and the monogrammed door mat I'm less inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

I know, jeffgoldblum, and again TBF the Sussexes wouldn't be the first to try to trade on their royal names, but again I'm mindful of the fact that the RF were in a position to know a lot more than we do of what they were capable of, which may well have influenced the "no"

Meghan's made a great deal out of saying "I didn't sign anything" and that she can say what she chooses, but so can others - only the others have so far wisely kept schtum

Perhaps an ever hanging possibility of further demands or ultimatums just wasn’t that pleasing a thought

Perhaps HM recalled all those demands made by the Duke of Windsor and wasn't prepared to deal with that again.

Meghan's made a great deal out of saying "I didn't sign anything" and that she can say what she chooses, but so can others - only the others have so far wisely kept schtum

Sorry forgotten how to bold!
This here @Puzzledandpissedoff , always struck me as a very, very odd thing to say!

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All this whipped-up speculation completely misses the main factor that caused Meghan and Harry to leave - the private discussions were leaked, whether by KP or someone else with links, knowledge and a big gob, so their hand was forced.

Nothing has been produced under the Sussex Royal brand so the equally silly speculation over what they might or might not sell in whatever bizarre alternate future posters can imagine is pointless. The professional outrage would be better spent on huffing and puffing at some of the atrocious tat that has actually been licensed and sold under the Duchy brand as an example.

I don't see any reason Meghan shouldn't be able to change things either. The hierarchy in the Windsor family is ridiculous in this day and age, just like the monarchy, and is in desperate need of being shaken up especially after all the catastrophic errors stretching across decades, some of which came close to ending the monarchy, that were made by the last queen but which appear to have been officially forgotten about. The current king is exceptionally foolish and doesn't have the best record either to say the least. Something certainly needs to be done about them.

The monogrammed doormat! That was so cringeworthy. H and M are on their way to being like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, clinging onto their titles to command respect and deference as that’s all they will have going for them. Diana had her HRH removed when she got divorced. Her global popularity following her divorce was based on what the public thought of her personally not her title.

@Gilmorehill was fairly cheesy , I must say! , I didn't believe it until someone posted a picture! 🤣

I don't see any reason Meghan shouldn't be able to change things either

Apart from the fact it's pretty arrogant to assume you walk into an institution, the working of which you know nothing about and where you're a junior partner who's been there five minutes, and start telling them how to run it?

What were her qualifications for seeing what changes need to be made, out of interest?

Looking at the sad person that Harry has become, I am so glad that William became part of the Middleton family so soon after Diana died. They have given him the security and family structure which clearly he and Kate are following - including the ability to understand that all of us make crap decisions at times, but can learn to work around them. Hopefully the future of the RF will be stronger due to this.

I do imagine that Kate would be 'let's see how we can work this out' as opposed to another person's 'we just cannot be treated like this'. Trying to convince my DC at the moment that the first way is better!

It's a family and she is an equal member of it. That's her qualification.

Very true!

She was not an equal member. Of all families in the world she married into one with a hierarchical structure. I don't think she ever understood the status of the queen, for example.
That it wasn't all just for show but her family showed her deep reverence and respect as the head of state.

She isn't 'an equal member.' There's a hierarchy and that hierarchy support the monarch.

He's an adult with capacity. He's his own worst enemy I don't feel at all sorry for him. I do feel very sorry for his DC, they are going to have similar genetic pain that Harry complains of.

I remember around the time they got engaged there were critical comments about how she would trademark everything and merch the royal family. These were promptly closed down but it is literally what she was setting up behind the scenes. It is absolutely cringeworthy and some more on top.

Even if it wasn't the royal family with a clear hierarchy, you can't marry into any family and then start making demands about how they should do things differently because you know best, without being ostracized.

It's just the belief of a simpleton that you can personally demand systemic change.

If you want to change a system you take people with you and it occurs gradually over time with mutual consent it's a good thing.

I'm sure there is a humungous backstory to that one. I'm sure there was a
"'fuck you!"
"no, fuck you!"
confrontation in which she threatened this openly and they retaliated by pointing out that they would always have more ammo on her and enough money to outdo her if she ever went there 😂

He misses the status of being the kind of person that needs 24/7 protection. Most in the family don’t have it, it’s a real marker of position in the pecking order.

It's just the belief of a simpleton that you can personally demand systemic change.

Unfortunately, it is on the rise and a direct by product of a certain mindset. I'm having to deal with one of these and she has much in common: exaggerated belief in one's abilities/a deep seated belief that you have magical powers of some description (singing to whales- remember), rebellion against all forms of authority despite having nothing better to offer, tyrannical behaviour self-interpreted as change-making and activism.

The difference is that these types of people would usually keep away from royalty, not marry it. They would not accept titles or payment for doing nothing.

She loves her movies - there’s a much loved trope like in the Princess Diaries where an American goes to another country, mocks the culture and traditions (aren’t they all so fusty and stuck up!), teaches the grateful locals how backwards their ways are, marries a handsome prince, and everyone learns to be more American, the end.

/sarcasm 😂

The professional outrage would be better spent on huffing and puffing at some of the atrocious tat that has actually been licensed and sold under the Duchy brand as an example.

That brand (Duchy Organics I think you mean) is a joint venture between a company set up by Prince Charles’ charitable trust that licenses Waitrose to use the brand commercially. They sell organic food items, as the name suggests. I think the most controversial item was a brief foray into herbal remedies, but you may know better. Not sure what atrocious tat you have in mind?

Anyway, the joint venture has raised millions for the charity that owns it since it was set up, rather than funding Prince Charles. So, a different scenario.

.. "Your Table is Ready: Tales of a New York City Maître D'," where Cecchi-Azzolina details the alleged encounter with Markle and a staffer. The former maître d' alleged Markle and her handler arrived for the reservation 20 minutes early and immediately requested special treatment.
According to Cecchi-Azzolina, Markle stood by silently while her handler demanded a private table, claiming it was "for someone who is dating a prince." At the time Markle was dating Prince Harry, who she would go on to marry a year later.
"Are you aware my guest is dating Prince Harry and about to be a duchess?" Cecchi-Azzolina wrote in reference to the unnamed staffer. "Don't you have a private area for us to wait?"
Cecchi-Azzolina, who worked at Le Coucou for two-and-a-half years, recalled telling them he didn't have a private table available.
In his book, Cecchi-Azzolina details his reaction to the request. "My first impulse was to laugh. I could give two shits about Prince Harry's date, and by the attention the escort was drawing from the crowd at the bar, nor did anyone else," he writes.
While the handler spoke to Cecchi-Azzolina, he wrote that Markle "didn't say a word," and described the Duchess of Sussex as "aloof."

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But we did see pictures of her sucking her financial advisors toes whilst pregnant with her youngest girl.

Not odd at all. To my mind, it was an out-and-out threat.

Along with the little anecdote she dropped into the Oprah interview, whereby she "happened to come across" her old diaries at the back of a drawer when they were staying back at Frogmore Cottage. Like she would have left something of that magnitude and value behind!!