Harry and his truth

[TrashyPanda]

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

Parents make the best decisions for their own children. Many do not want to put theirs in the toxic family environment they grew up in and I think that is protective, rather than denying them anything.

My sense of Harry is that he is emotional and impulsive and that kind of personality does not always find satisfaction through the law.

I don't think he really meant to, I'm sure it was just another vehicle for him to share his truth .

Parents make the best decisions for their own children

that is not an absolute.

many parents realise what they thought was a good decision for their kids was actually the wrong decision.

many parents make decisions about their lives which impact negatively on their DC.

one does not become perfect by reproducing.

was it the best decision to send Harry to boarding school at such a young age?

I wonder if this will become Harry's life - endless court cases if unflattering (to him unfair and untrue) things are published. Living in the States is the land of lawsuits so it could keep him very busy. It doesn't seem like a good way to live a peaceful life but then they don't want to be out of the limelight, but rather just to control what's said about them.

True Panda! , they also normally go the opposite way than their own parents, for example if their parents are very strict , they often are the opposite but sometimes they go too far in that direction and cause a totally different form of damage!

Parents make what they feel are the best decisions but all our decisions are impacted by our own needs, limitations and blind spots.

All decisions have consequences.

William seems to be giving his children a more stable extended family environment, but he is bringing them up within the demands of the royal family which is undoubtedly a huge impact, possibly negative, depending on the personality of the children.

Harry has removed his children from the family and the royal demands, but he has isolated them, and made his sold his life as a commodity to do so, and is publicly fighting with the world. Which will undoubtedly impact on the children depending on their personalities.

I think the pros and cons for William and Harry's choices for their children could be discussed endlessly as it's not obvious which is the best path, but what is obvious is that their past influences their decisions and there is no consequence free choice.

It's frustrating that he can bankroll pointless litigation when so many worthy cases fall out of the system due to lack of funding.
They need to stop hating on the UK and "be here now" in Montecito. He has had his say, hours and hours of it. Now he is going round in circles and contradicting himself.
I expect that once he properly settles in California then they will find lawsuits to file over there which doesn't involve UK taxpayers potentially contributing.
Forget the power grab, the royals have massive faults but they are still the more stable and respected side. Harry needs specific therapy focused on sibling rivalry to move on.

You do realise no one has said racism can't be discussed? However you must accept other people's opinions that royal women's experiences were all vile. Adding racism into the mix for Meghan does not make her experience worse. It makes it different.

All excellent points @StrawberryWasp - I completely agree!

Parents make the best decisions for their children. It may be protective taking them out of what they perceive to be a toxic family situation.

Quite.

But parents often get it wrong.

And having a dad that seems hell bent on justice or revenge and court cases and who can come across bitter and angry in public smacks a wee bit of frying pans and fires.

That bitterness can be all pervasive.

If it is a façade for the benefit of the public or press then bravo! Oscars all round.

If it is not? Then here’s hoping he can park it all at the front door when he goes home.

Most of us will know how hard it is to forget or let go of an injustice, a wrong doing or tragedy. Sometimes it is impossible.

But gripping on to it is not healthy. It doesn’t make for a happy person and I daresay it doesn’t make for happiness and contentment for those around you.

I’m not saying he shouldn’t try to address wrong doings. But think about how your words affect those you love now going forward.

There is maybe a wee family there hoping that dad can settle back, be happy and look to the future.

The past can make prisoners of us all if we let it.

The problem is that he can't fully settle in the US because he would have to renounce his titles , I don't think he is prepared to do that .

He cannot stay living in a state of limbo forever playing endless rounds of Mr Wolf with the British media. Something will have to give.

To be honest I don’t think we should discuss it because it inevitably derails threads. It’s better to assume people mean what they say and respond to that, instead of arguing with why they might be saying it. Since nobody can read other posters’ minds, you will never ever know whether people criticise Meghan because they’re secretly racist so that argument will go on and on forever. Let’s focus on what people say about Meghan and Harry, not speculate on their motivations. Besides Harry is kindly providing us with plenty of content to discuss!

If Harry wanted to become a US citizen, would that mean he had to give up his titles or could he keep them?

From what I can gather on Harry's case, as a witness he offered no solid evidence of hacking or illegal information gathering. He said his lawyers had the evidence?? Does that mean they will be producing hard evidence or witnesses to support him? Or have they moved on to the next person?

Personally I cannot see if he has no real evidence and only speculation on his part (however suspicious) he can win?? Ultimately a judge can't find people guilty of crimes with no evidence whatsoever? Phone hacking is a crime, and although this is a civil case there are still 'guilty' parties if he finds for the claimant? How can he label certain journalists effectively criminals with no evidence? I personally think there was some criminal activity around Harry but surely evidence, even one episode, must be a minimum requirement?

I agree @Elior , but if he goes for full US citizenship , he has to renounce his titles, I just don't think that will happen.
Nobody really knows what his long term plans are, if any?

Unless you've experienced racism, you can't understand. Adding in to misogyny and yes it is worse.

He'd have to give them up! , interestingly m would keep hers as she is already American and married in!

Would William have the right to remove the titles against Harry's will once he becomes king?

According to the Observer there’s a legal precedent that actually sets the bar for claiming damages for hacking fairly low, so they think the judge actually might be convinced by the argument that because other hacking has been proven, Harry can be assumed to as well.

I don’t think it’s that easy

I think parliment removes titles but that’s a dangerous precedent to set.

Harry is a witness, his lawyer presents the case including evidence.

I'm not an expert but I'm sure someone said that they can't without parliamentary approval.