Harry and his truth

[TrashyPanda]

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

Interesting point. There was certainly no chance of civil unrest and no talk of it at the time and I can't really remember when people started to claim that. The beatification of Diana (which had not been helpful to anyone) seemed to happen about the time of the funeral.
You have a good point about Candle in the Wind.

When was the alleged affair with Will Carling?

When did she admit to 4 affairs within the marriage? She admitted to Hewitt in the panorama interview, as far as I know the others are gossip and conjecture.

In the Elton special on 60 Minutes, it was identified as being the best selling song of all time. I am sure the royalties are split among many but not much has been revealed. Elton's terse comments during the interview about the paparazzi seem to have been mirrored by Harry in recent interviews. I can believe what Harry said about Elton being his mother figure as he seems to hugely influence Harry (possibly got him involved in the recent case via his barrister in the S of France). There was also the old friendship with Diana which seemed more patchier and less close than Harry's relationship with Elton.

https://www.tatler.com/gallery/princess-diana-boyfriends-lovers

Will Carling was 1995 - so after the separation was announced and before the divorce.

https://www.tatler.com/gallery/princess-diana-boyfriends-lovers
According to Tatler. Some with more evidence than others. Oliver Hoare was that strange phone harrassment accusation.

Cross post!

I don’t know, maybe civil unrest is strong but there was definitely a sense of a gathering storm while “the people” waited for word from the Queen. Feelings were running very high. Very unusual times.

Feelings high among some, not most. Where I lived and worked in London everything seemed to carry on as normal. No extra policing and I heard no rumours. Just some emotional behaviour outside KP and mawkish tv coverage.

Whenever I hear about that, I always remember at that time he stated he couldn’t cross his legs cos his thighs were so big!!

still makes me laugh at the image it contours up.

She spoke about Mannakee (her security guard - later killed in an ‘accident’) in the secret voice coach video diaries that were discovered in 2018 and shown on NBC - you can watch this on YouTube.

Gilbey was ‘squidgy-gate’ neither admitted an affair at the time but the content of the call would indicate otherwise.

Hoare was 1992 after Gilbey and before Hewitt.

I didn't know that. I thought Charles was the one commiting adultery

Maireas · Today 20:03
Feelings high among some, not most. Where I lived and worked in London everything seemed to carry on as normal. No extra policing and I heard no rumours. Just some emotional behaviour outside KP and mawkish tv coverage.

Interesting to hear that, @Maireas as it goes to show how distorted the media coverage was. I was out of London by then and from what we seeing it seemed like the capital had gone bonkers.

Was Hewitt as late as the 90s? I thought he was earlier? I think Hoare ended in 94 with those phonecalls she made.

Does Hoare actually count? i thought it was, ahem, stalking 😆

Quite seamless / bit of overlapping….

Mannakee 85-86
Hewitt 86-92
Gilbey 89
Hoare 92-94

Same. I got the impression people were baying for blood and getting more and more vocal. The Queen was definitely forced to go to London to calm the masses however the event was perceived in the capital.

The masses aren’t just Londoners. I watched a documentary on this a while back and the news reporter, who was working at the time said the atmosphere was uneasy etc. I remember interviews at the time, the anger etc.

Not surprised at all that the British media is a sanitised version

I thoght other press had less regulation, so the 'sanitised' version is because of people being allowed privacy?

I think that you're right, @Mummyoflittledragon in that there was criticism of the royals and confusion and anger about Diana's death. I don't think it was on a mass scale, though.

Not surprised at all that the British media is a sanitised version
actually, it isn’t

certainly in the USA the common view is that he’s a publicity seeking whinger. Especially after the actual hilarity caused by the spurious claims of a “near catastrophe”. And look at all the sketches and memes after the publication of Spare.

and then there was that ep of Southpark.

I wasn’t in London as I say @Maireas so the impression I was getting was from the media and the confused / angry people interviewed. Perhaps it’s more a case of opportunism if anything had started and this was the time of football hooliganism for example, albeit on the decline by Diana’s death.

she also had affairs with Hasnat Khan and Dodi Fayed

I don’t recall civil unrest just high emotions from some ( mainly women/ Diana fans)
my dh ( boyfriend at time) didn’t give a monkeys! I went up to KP and watched the funeral. It wasn’t civil unrest just people openly crying which was unusual.
I think Blair wound it up abit it’s his people’s princess stuff then Elton John got in on the act and Charles spencer at the funeral.
people did line the streets all the way up the M1 throwing flowers at the Hearst which we have never seen before. Not as crazy as the drive for the queen from raf Northolt to Buckingham palace in September which was ridiculous in places

That's similar to my memory, @sashagabadon .