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Harry and his truth

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 11:36

Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 17:47

And resilience is often built by facing adversity and overcom8ng it 8n the best way you can

having loving support is critical

at Harry’s wedding, his Spencer aunts played significant roles. They seem to be close

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tommyshelbysbunnit · 10/06/2023 17:49

I would be exhausted if I was Harry, all these people to argue with

polkadotdalmation · 10/06/2023 17:53

@Lndnmummy You can hardly help being neglected to some degree if your mother is no longer there because she's dead. William grew up in the same environment and you're not saying he was neglected

KimMumsnet · 10/06/2023 17:56

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Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 17:57

recsw · 10/06/2023 16:41

Has Harry finished now? I read something about him flying home.

Yes he went home on Thursday or yesterday.

maranella · 10/06/2023 17:57

I'm just watching Newscast on the BBC and Andrew Neil was talking about Harry's court case. AN said that Harry only has to prove that one of the 31 examples he brought to court was hacking or blagging in order to 'win' and AN thinks he probably did that, even though he performed quite poorly and didn't provide any real evidence for many of the examples.

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 17:59

Ok folks, MN have spoken

lets all just keep on topic and try to pass over anything ypthat might be contentious.

we got our last thread to 1000 despite some opposition, so let’s keep our constructive and interesting conversations on here alive and well.

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GloriousD · 10/06/2023 18:00

I think that packing them both off to boarding school at 7 years of age was emotionally negligent - they didn’t have the nurturing experience they needed.

I also suspect as D&C marriage was imploding that they were both preoccupied with themselves and not emotionally available and attuned to their sons as much as they could have been.

I am also critical of both parents choice to go to the media with details of their sex lives with zero concern about how this would impact sensitive teens.

polkadotdalmation · 10/06/2023 18:00

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 17:02

I thought Biden was anti British?

He's very anti English.

BasiliskStare · 10/06/2023 18:00

I think he may "win" if he proves one or two or whatever , where I think he hasn't done himself any favours is not concentrating on those where he had facts rather than just surmising for a huge number of cases. It's almost like throwing mud at a wall and see what sticks.

TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 18:01

@polkadotdalmation - ah, I see.

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TrashyPanda · 10/06/2023 18:02

@BasiliskStare - presumably his legal team would advise the best course of action?

of course, that doesn’t mean he would accept their recommendations.

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GloriousD · 10/06/2023 18:05

If he wins his case against MGN - which I hope he does - will he be seen as a superhero - or will he see himself as a superhero - or will the public just treat it with indifference?

Will his reputation be enhanced?

polkadotdalmation · 10/06/2023 18:05

@GloriousD I agree I don't think it's a good idea to send a young child to boarding school, but plenty do and the children grow up mentally healthy. Did W & H go at the age of 7?

I agree they didn't have the best upbringing, but a huge impact was Dianna death and this couldn't have been anticipated.

maranella · 10/06/2023 18:06

They went to a day school in London for prep school. I think they only boarded when they went to Eton at 13.

jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 18:11

@TrashyPanda 💐😢, your poor father ! , I'm so sorry, such a tragic story x

GloriousD · 10/06/2023 18:11

maranella · 10/06/2023 18:06

They went to a day school in London for prep school. I think they only boarded when they went to Eton at 13.

No they went to day school in Nottinghill until they were 7 - then started boarded at Ludgrove in Wokingham before Eton.

polkadotdalmation · 10/06/2023 18:23

Ah it says Ludgrove from the age of 8. I really don't think it's ideal and couldn't imagine sending my children away but I hope W&Ks kids don't board until much later.

Maireas · 10/06/2023 18:25

Charlotte is already 8, George almost 10, so that's unlikely.

jeffgoldblum · 10/06/2023 18:28

Maireas · 10/06/2023 18:25

Charlotte is already 8, George almost 10, so that's unlikely.

Good! Hope they don't .

recsw · 10/06/2023 18:29

I think it is a different generation.

Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 18:29

GloriousD · 10/06/2023 18:00

I think that packing them both off to boarding school at 7 years of age was emotionally negligent - they didn’t have the nurturing experience they needed.

I also suspect as D&C marriage was imploding that they were both preoccupied with themselves and not emotionally available and attuned to their sons as much as they could have been.

I am also critical of both parents choice to go to the media with details of their sex lives with zero concern about how this would impact sensitive teens.

I thought they were at day prep schools? They didn’t board until they went to Eton I think.

Catspyjamasfit · 10/06/2023 18:31

Also it’s about practicalities . If their parents had to attend events etc nannies are defunct after prep school age. They had to be looked after .

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/06/2023 18:32

Ohpleeeease · 10/06/2023 17:45

GloriousD · Today 17:31
My observation is the W gained a sense of stability from the Middletons and his early and long term relationship with K. I think they look like a normal family who were able to emotionally support him. That was luck really that H didn’t have.
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I also suspect that Williams MH was more closely attended to as he needed to be kept balanced as heir to the throne.
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I don’t think family breakdown in the public eye, sudden loss, unresolved grief, emotional neglect and then decades of substance misuse from teen years is a good combination.

I think you may be right.

I also see William as a stronger character, more resilient. He appears at least to have a more developed sense of self. I can’t help feeling Harry is still struggling with who he is and where he belongs. Could be completely wrong about that of course. Just how it looks to me.

I speak as someone, who lost a parent at a similar age to William. I am now a mum. My dd will soon be 15. The difference between how Harry could process the death and how William could have is stark. Harry was still a little boy, not having reached puberty but at an age, where children have started to pull away... boys being less mature than girls as puberty is later. William otoh will have attained a higher understanding of self and been able to more readily rationalise the situation.

I think both were traumatised. I do not for one moment think they were neglected. Perhaps their emotional needs were not fulfilled at times or in many occasions. But that is entirely different from specific neglect. They had a hard time, to be sure. However, they both had far more familial love and support than I had in the aftermath.

The comment about neglect irks me somewhat when I remember that HMQ and Prince Philip were forced to London away from the boys. The famous comment from PP that they were looking after the boys and his obvious fury that they had been forced by the British public away from their grandparental duty.

Elior · 10/06/2023 18:36

Lndnmummy · 10/06/2023 17:12

I am sure he his. He lost his mother very young too. I do not think that he is as traumatised as Harry though, no. Obviously I do not know this. But you asked ehat I see so that is my answer.

That comment is incredibly insensitive.

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