Harry and his truth

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Let’s try again folks!

the aftermath of Harry’s court appearance and what happens next

Go Harry!

I hope he and the other litigants win their cases.

Jeez, this is all getting a bit mad deletion wise. Like the Feminism topic a couple of years ago.

@Sweetpeasaremadeforbees - a good reminder for us all to keep to the topic under discussed and not be like fish rising to the bait

I am sure he his. He lost his mother very young too. I do not think that he is as traumatised as Harry though, no. Obviously I do not know this. But you asked ehat I see so that is my answer.

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Your not wrong, bizarrely despite having nothing in common both these boards get spammed a lot 🤷‍♀️, I laugh when posters say aibu is the lions den! 🤣

@Lndnmummy I agree re William. All the focus is on Harry & yet William lost his mum too and everyone seems to have forgotten that. William just seems a lot more mentally robust with a wife who (seems to, who actually knows!) keeps him grounded. Kate suffered the most terrible vitriol from the press (just like Diana and Fergie) and she rode the wave. I don't think any of them should have to, but that does seem to be the way. She rode it well whereas Meghan couldn't / wasn't prepared to and Harry agreed and has taken a stand against it. I think it's sad all round & wish they could all just find peace & happiness.

I don’t think W and H are experiencing grief in the same way, not should they be expected to. In my own mother’s case the loss of her adored father affected her and her sibling differently. They were similar ages as it happens.

I agree that H’s emotional needs were probably misunderstood and he wasn’t adequately supported. I’m not sure all that followed is a consequence of that. I think the Queen nailed it when she said H loved M too much, it looks very much like worship and that’s never a healthy dynamic.

It’s how you deal with the trauma though, I suppose. Whether you go on to live your best life or get stuck and wallow in the past. I suspect Harry is doing the latter, which is sad. No amount of litigation and attempts at revenge will change what happened. He would do better or move on, but he is clearly unable to do that. I can see no joy in living like that.

Posted too early, I meant to say in the context of the court case that H’s motivation in pursuing this may be skewed by his need to make his wife happy.

'Be like Dad, keep mum...' to quote a very old fashioned press campaign?

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@Lndnmummy My personal take is that meeting Kate and the Middleton family just a few years after Diana’s death has probably helped him emotionally. They seem like a family who support each other.

Let’s not derail the thread by mentioning their recent financial woes, I’m referring to emotional support!

I think both Harry and William were traumatised by their mothers loss

William has found a way to move beyond their loss but Harry seems still stuck

My observation is the W gained a sense of stability from the Middletons and his early and long term relationship with K. I think they look like a normal family who were able to emotionally support him. That was luck really that H didn’t have.

I also suspect that Williams MH was more closely attended to as he needed to be kept balanced as heir to the throne.

I don’t think family breakdown in the public eye, sudden loss, unresolved grief, emotional neglect and then decades of substance misuse from teen years is a good combination.

His visits each time seem to be as brief as he can make them. He clearly does not enjoy being here. There aren’t any reasons for him to be in the U.K. for the foreseeable future as far as I am aware. Therefore hopefully things will go quiet. He needs to really think about his future now and look forwards not backwards.

Could you explain why you think William was less affected?

not that it is a competition, but just because William does not often speak about his mother or his feelings does not mean that he does not bear immense scars. Maybe he is the type who suffers in silence and choses not to reveal his battered soul to the world?

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I would have thought he has long term friends he would like to catch up with? I would imagine they would have even more significance and need now that his family relationships have soured.

William has chosen not to speak in public about his loss

maybe it’s bcos he can’t?

my late DF last saw his mother when he was 17. WWII broke out, she was arrested and later put into a concentration camp. Dad joined the army and escaped across Europe. She survived the war but due to Yalta my father could never go back. She died in the mid 1950s.

Dad could never speak more than a few words about her before his eyes filled with tears and he would have to leave the room.

GloriousD · Today 17:31
My observation is the W gained a sense of stability from the Middletons and his early and long term relationship with K. I think they look like a normal family who were able to emotionally support him. That was luck really that H didn’t have.
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I also suspect that Williams MH was more closely attended to as he needed to be kept balanced as heir to the throne.
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I don’t think family breakdown in the public eye, sudden loss, unresolved grief, emotional neglect and then decades of substance misuse from teen years is a good combination.

I think you may be right.

I also see William as a stronger character, more resilient. He appears at least to have a more developed sense of self. I can’t help feeling Harry is still struggling with who he is and where he belongs. Could be completely wrong about that of course. Just how it looks to me.

I’ve read that many of these friendships have not survived his move to US

@TrashyPanda 🌹 what a tragic story.
We don't know about William, all we know is that he's chosen not to share in public. Maybe he does in the privacy of his home.

@TrashyPanda Your poor DF. Grief is a very personal thing, no-one else can say when and how you should be done with it.