What next for the Sussexes?

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I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes.

I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

“would appreciate if you could please read me for understanding not for arguing.”

The above from the ever-reasonable Skullbabe is the best sentence on the thread.

There is a name for this strategy.

But as you well know, it's used here a lot. People have no argument, so they derail by attacking a prolific poster, so they spend too much time arguing and pointless nonsense from ages ago. I know it's annoying, but do try not to fall - easier said that done. As you said, they must stop it now.

Tedious name changers who have been here, and are mischievous on purpose. You wonder their agenda, for real . Aahhh! 😅

How on earth was I hostile? I spoke nicely. I said pretty please can we leave it. I tried to lighten things.

Why are you having a go at me? I am trying to clear this up and move on from this and you crash in telling me I'm hostile. It's hardly going to help is it?

@BeenThereTooo I am sorry if we have had a misunderstanding. The post you wrote had my words in bold quoted above. I assumed you were talking about me. I hope you are not going to think I have been hostile. I have honestly truly not understood all this. Anyway, I apologise if I have upset you in any way.

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. As normal

They were all drunk at the same clubs at the same nights when younger. Now you want me to repost those? They are all over the internet. Go look yourself.

I searched. Nothing came up. I see you've posted them before so you must have downloaded them onto your phone, tablet, or whatever. Be a love and just stick them on here.

Yes you are correct. I am at a complete loss about all of this. But I never want to upset anyone or be called hostile when I genuinely don't think I have been. It leaves an unpleasant taste in the mouth to be honest.

Thank you

@notanotheroneagain Considering William got married at 28 and Harry at 36, that 8 more years of him drunk/drugs and in some cases disorderly, at an age when he should have known better. Most young people get drunk and silly, and it means nothing. It's not a sign of weakness of character, however most doesn't go around assaulting people. Harry has admitted to still indulging in weed.

Oh, you already found where I posted them before?
Be a love and just screengrab and put it up here.
After all, you the one who wants those pic on here so badly.

Think you missed 10yrs of strict military service in your maths.

But wait, now your gonna tell me how the army allows rampant drugging too? Nice for people who are defending our country.

Lots of attacks on you lately. You must be saying something right. 💐

But as you well know, it's used here a lot. People have no argument, so they derail by attacking a prolific poster, so they spend too much time arguing and pointless nonsense from ages ago. I know it's annoying, but do try not to fall - easier said that done. As you said, they must stop it now.

That isn't what happened here at all. Not even close. No one attacked anyone. One poster mistakenly thought they were being attacked, as they attributed another's post to themselves. Understandable as the sentiments were similar. It was they who then created the conversation around it, in order for things to be cleared up.

A mistake was made, there's no need for such angst, drama and accusations of attack.

And before I get accused of derailing etc I don't believe such inaccuracies should go unchallenged.

Obviously I haven't seen them or I wouldn't ask you to post them! 🙄
You talked about reposting them which means you must have posted them before. So it's not like it's any effort to post them again.

It isn’t about that though really notanother

I haven’t name changed but get met with passive aggressive ‘oh dears’, ‘think you meant to says’, ‘bye have a nice evening’ or similar.

We have different opinions. It would be a dull old world if we didn’t.

There are prolific posters here - it isn’t, nor has it ever been personal for me. But because some post a lot, on the odd chance I have a mo and wander over, odds on it may be someone who posts a lot that I may disagree - or agree - with.

I’ve seen it go both ways re republicans or monarchists. Do I get spikey sometimes? I do. Because I’m just putting a point across and get a dig in return.

Then it feels like eggshell dancing time while you wait for various accusations to come flying.

I’m here for a discussion, not here for the fight and often just retreat. Not because I haven’t the argument but because there is no discussion to be had with those who believe you absolutely can’t be right because their opinion is what goes.

It would be a bloody great shame for it to turn into an echo chamber. We all have pertinent points to make.

And thank you for that Rousette. You have just proven my point. Which is a great pity as I do find your posts interesting on the whole. It doesn’t have to be an attack or a fight. That is what I was agreeing with in Rocket’s post.

And this no doubt is why some name change too. Because they can’t say or agree with anything at all without the digs.

Nah, I'm good.

Since you want them so bad. You do the legwork and go find them.

This!

Think you've summed it up perfectly.

No conversation or debate can ever be had because as soon as you disagree or challenge, accusations of name-changing or attacking start flying. Then it becomes a roundabout of people defending themselves from accusations, someone sticks to for them and then it expands into accusations of a pile on. Every time.

Why would I waste my time? They dont exist. You know and I know it.

And thank you for that Rousette. You have just proven my point. Which is a great pity as I do find your posts interesting on the whole. It doesn’t have to be an attack or a fight. That is what I was agreeing with inRocket’spost.

But please Arcane. What the hell am I supposed to do. I still don't understand the whole thing but I have been the bigger person and apologised for upsetting someone, if I have. I get called hostile when I have just asked nicely if we could move on from this. No rudeness at all from me.

I just have no idea what I am guilty of, and why posters jump in to join in. If I see a bit of a spat going on between two people, I try not to get involved, because I think it won't help and pile ons are really upsetting. But you were straight there! Me and the poster concerned were sorting it, it just doesn't help if other posters get involved, it really doesn't.

I have no idea what point I have proven to you. I haven't attacked. I have stood up for myself which anyone on here would do. You would, I know you would. Look at two days ago, that left me bruised and battered because you didn't like me saying a video was nauseating. Others say far far worse. I've seen it!

Anyway, thanks for reading, if you do. That's it.

Then it becomes a roundabout of people defending themselves from accusations, someone sticks to for them and then it expands into accusations of a pile on. Every time.

It is a pile on. Four or five posters having a go at one poster when it is nothing to do with them is a pile on. It's unpleasant. It's nasty. It's upsetting and it's uncalled for.

I had it day before yesterday and now.

I respectfully disagree. Unfortunately, on occasion we all may experience more than one person disagreeing with us. Being a discussion forum people are obviously free to comment. Be that 1 or 10. It doesn't make a pile on if they agree on certain points which go against our own beliefs.

No nastiness here. Same as you say there was no hostility on your side. We've both, perhaps, read something which wasn't there or intended. Easy done with text, due to lack of tone.

I only 'involved' myself to point out a potential glitch on the app which could have created the initial misunderstanding and to point out a second with pictures posted.

It's really not that deep. There was a simple misunderstanding that spiralled.

If you believe I have ever been unnecessary or nasty to you Rousette, report it. Please.

I was ‘straight there’ and agreed because it was a sensible post. And as for the proven point - you came straight back with ‘Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. As normal’ It reads as nasty, sneery and unnecessary. The very things you object to I think. After our exchange the other day, I don’t believe it was written as a compliment.

I don’t pile on.

But the other day there were allegations of mean girl or sidekick because I chose to disagree with something you posted. I really didn’t know how many others posted it before you - i reacted because I saw it on your post. I only said it was snide. Not that you personally were snide. Just that very small part of the really sensible post. And then it went pear shaped.

If you think I piled on you the other day or today, please report it. Let HQ decide.

But this kind of stuff is putting me clean off posting all together. It feels to me sometimes that that is the intention.

I don't intend to do anything. So please don't think that. I could say exactly the same in reverse. But I'm not insinuating that with you.

If I post snide things, I am obviously being snide, but let's not go there!

Anyway, that's it. There's no point going over this again. I've said my bit, so have you and other posters.

Rocket thanks for your post.

@notanotheroneagain No not much in the way of drugs in the military, but I can assure you more than enough alcohol when off duty. But the conversation wasn't initially about drugs, it was being 'shitfaced' and falling out of taxis. Allegedly William and kate, but also Harry. Drinking large amounts of alcohol is definitely a military (albeit off duty) thing. Mind you, school is also not suppose to be a drug environment, but harry managed it at eton.

Anyway I can also find not pictures of William and kate as mature adults shitfaced. One of Catherine a bit the worse for wear but still upright, and not punching a photographer or someone similar.

So do stop with the W&K adults drunkenness in an attempt to deflect from Harry's clear issues with alcohol and drugs.

@ArcaneWireless Putting people off posting and criticising people who need criticising for the actions, is indeed what the aim is.

I'm clearly just an annoying little thorn in their side as I won't be shut down or shut up.

Or to put it in oprahs parlance, am I silent or are they trying to 'silence' me? In oprahs voice in your head please. 😂😂😂

So do stop with the W&K adults drunkenness in an attempt to deflect from Harry's clear issues with alcohol and drugs.

W&K were not high school sweethearts, they were above consenting age, adults. The pics are the first thing on google images. Everyone sees them. You guys really seem to want them reposted on here. I wonder why.

Stop gauding me to put them up and then come back later, about how I posted 'vile' pics of K&M - because that is how you usually twist things.

No longer talking about this easily googled nonsense anymore.