Page 29 | What next for the Sussexes?

Casuaala · 2023-05-07T13:49:15+00:00

I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes. I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

Roussette · 14/05/2023 08:49

@MrsMaxDeWinter that post made me laugh! Secret weapons and fab fours, and such silly names the Press write about. They (media) must think we are totally stupid to put up with this ridiculous nonsense!

Birchtrees · 14/05/2023 08:51

The silence on Andrew is simply self preservation. The reason H and M haven’t talked about it is because it seems Eugenie is the only member of the RF who still has time for him. They don’t want to alienate her or Beatrice.

Maireas · 14/05/2023 08:53

I agree, @SoTedious . Good points.

notanotheroneagain · 14/05/2023 08:57

Roussette · 14/05/2023 07:27

I am very grateful to you,@skullbabe thank you. Whatever I say here to you, will be picked over, so I choose my words carefully Needless to say, I purposely kept my head down yesterday, there's only so much a person can take. And why a post of mine is brought up again from two days ago, I do not know.

We'll be called 'a blob' soon like the civil service! We are all individual I agree.

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Been away for a few days when I came on here yesterday and read the pile on. I wanted to agree with you, but as I had thought posters had moved on, didn't want to revert to a bunfight. Now I see someone has just dug it up again. How strange.

I also note your extreme politeness means some posters think they have a right to walk all over you. Witnessed this plenty on here. Some of us appreciate your measured debates and perseverance.

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 08:58

If his Mother, two brothers and sister don't speak out when he is there in the Institution with them, why the hell should his nephew and nephew's wife speak out.

I wasn't making a judgement on who should do what - just pointing out that it looks strange. His mother and siblings never speak out about anything, so it's hardly likely they are going to start now, nobody expects that they would. But his nephew and nephew's wife like to point out the flaws and misbehaviour of various members of the family to the point of extreme pettiness, yet swerve any mention of Andrew.

notanotheroneagain · 14/05/2023 08:59

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 08:37

Charles is the king, may the king Iive forever.
Camilla is the Queen, and the family's secret weapon.
William is the heir.
Kate is the next queen and the family's secret weapon.
Together, these are the new Fab Four.

Anne is the "Princess Royal" and the family's secret weapon.
Edward and Sophie have been recently promoted and are also the family's secret weapon, as well as being part of another new Fab Four with W and K (The way it works is that when any four of them are pictured together, they become the new Fab Four)

The Middletons are the queen makers and also, apparently, secret weapons.

Even Tom Parke- Bowles is a secret weapon and if you stand him next to his mother, father, and step-brother William, could, at a pinch, become a part of yet another Fab Four.

Quite why the family needs so many secret weapons and Fab Fours is its own subject, but with all these important members and secret weapons and Fab Fours, why does it fall on the overseas royals to condemn Andrew?

Guess it's a bit of a change when the queen was around everyone was 'her rock' 😅

Roussette · 14/05/2023 09:00

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 08:58

If his Mother, two brothers and sister don't speak out when he is there in the Institution with them, why the hell should his nephew and nephew's wife speak out.

I wasn't making a judgement on who should do what - just pointing out that it looks strange. His mother and siblings never speak out about anything, so it's hardly likely they are going to start now, nobody expects that they would. But his nephew and nephew's wife like to point out the flaws and misbehaviour of various members of the family to the point of extreme pettiness, yet swerve any mention of Andrew.

Of course they swerve! It's the biggest hot potato ever. I hope to god they never speak out about him. If there is anything to be said it should be his brother, the King. And should've been his Mother.
I agree the RF choose what they speak out about, and what they don't. Very selective.

Maireas · 14/05/2023 09:02

Birchtrees · 14/05/2023 08:51

The silence on Andrew is simply self preservation. The reason H and M haven’t talked about it is because it seems Eugenie is the only member of the RF who still has time for him. They don’t want to alienate her or Beatrice.

You're right, and they've always been friendly with Fergie and the whole York family. So then it's less about righting wrongs and speaking up about the truth and more about personal differences. They've had no cause to fall out with the York family.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:03

My interest in the Royals as you know is mainly sociological, as reflected in the press coverage which filters to discussion forums such as this. I am interested in the threads and narratives that I see developing, many of which are contradictory and, as a consequence, amusing.

Once you start to see the whole thing as an extended sketch show, it is actually very funny. The Windsors in that respect is better than The Crown!!

Roussette · 14/05/2023 09:03

@notanotheroneagain Thank you, I appreciate that a lot.

DuchessOfPort · 14/05/2023 09:03

but the working royals don’t speak out on much personal.

If you can write that Camilla is a villain, you can probably point out that Andrew’s a bellend.

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 09:04

If you can write that Camilla is a villain, you can probably point out that Andrew’s a bellend.

Pretty much sums up the point I have been trying to make 😂😂

Roussette · 14/05/2023 09:05

I think the whole world knows he's a bellend, it would be rather stating the obvious! 🤣

KrasiTime · 14/05/2023 09:05

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:03

My interest in the Royals as you know is mainly sociological, as reflected in the press coverage which filters to discussion forums such as this. I am interested in the threads and narratives that I see developing, many of which are contradictory and, as a consequence, amusing.

Once you start to see the whole thing as an extended sketch show, it is actually very funny. The Windsors in that respect is better than The Crown!!

Camilla & Puppah 😁 are my favourites!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:11

That last message was to @Roussette

@notanotheroneagain

I hate to disagree with you but I have been asked to remind you that there is only one ROCK in the whole ensemble, and that ROCK was Diana's.

Paul Burrell has asked me to remind you that he was Diana's ROCK, in capitals, like that, and that it is a condition of his every TV appearance that his adamantine status as Diana's ROCK be stated along with his name.

Roussette · 14/05/2023 09:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:11

That last message was to @Roussette

@notanotheroneagain

I hate to disagree with you but I have been asked to remind you that there is only one ROCK in the whole ensemble, and that ROCK was Diana's.

Paul Burrell has asked me to remind you that he was Diana's ROCK, in capitals, like that, and that it is a condition of his every TV appearance that his adamantine status as Diana's ROCK be stated along with his name.

Oh yes. Paul Burrell, how can we forget him. He's been in I'm A Celebrity blabbing on and on about the Royals, and getting the other contestants to practice their curtseys.
Very embarrassing. Despite being a ROCK 🤣

notanotheroneagain · 14/05/2023 09:15

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 08:42

I agree that their silence about Andrew looks weirder than the rest of the RF's silence, because they talk about everyone else, whereas the rest of them don't. I mean, they have both declared their feminism, but Kate not having the right expression on her face when she lent a lip gloss warrants a mention, but Andrew paying off a woman trafficked for sex doesn't?

What took place with Andrew was before Harry's time. Was he at school or in the army? The payoff happened after H&M both left. I would say they can't know too many details about Andrew's case. Why would you want them to comment, when the rest of the other adult families were there throughout. Ask Charles, Anne or Edward to address that.

The only things H&M talk about the family involve themselves. They we're present and things were being said and done to them or involving one of them. Definitely of consequence to them.

They do not for example talk about Charles and Camilla's affair and details of what they did to Diana's life, even though that indirectly affects Harry deeply.

As for Kate, well they were there and that was her reaction to MM.

KattyJo · 14/05/2023 09:16

Interesting that the very same posters who praise Harry's bravery for "speaking out" think that he shouldn't say anything about the only actually controversial member of the RF.

Rhondaa · 14/05/2023 09:17

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 08:58

If his Mother, two brothers and sister don't speak out when he is there in the Institution with them, why the hell should his nephew and nephew's wife speak out.

I wasn't making a judgement on who should do what - just pointing out that it looks strange. His mother and siblings never speak out about anything, so it's hardly likely they are going to start now, nobody expects that they would. But his nephew and nephew's wife like to point out the flaws and misbehaviour of various members of the family to the point of extreme pettiness, yet swerve any mention of Andrew.

Exactly the Queen wasn't shouting her truths left right and centre whereas Harry's blabbing and outrage is non stop. All obviously as pp have said as they just dare not alienate the Yorks because who else will Harry sit next to at his next appearance.

Roussette · 14/05/2023 09:20

KattyJo · 14/05/2023 09:16

Interesting that the very same posters who praise Harry's bravery for "speaking out" think that he shouldn't say anything about the only actually controversial member of the RF.

It's not to do with him. Let his two brothers speak out. Why hasn't Anne or Edward spoken out then? They would have been in very close proximity to him whilst this was all going on. Not a squeak from them.
Nor his Mother who was directly involved having to help with legal costs and a massive payout to a sex trafficked victim. Not a squeak.
Or his brother, now the King, who again was directly involved and setting the tone for what would happen to Andrew when he became King. Not a squeak.

But a nephew who lives elsewhere should speak out when not one of his direct relations haven't. Daft.

Apologies for all the 'squeaks' lol

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:22

@KrasiTime

Camilla and Puppah are the show..

I also love Anne's eh, chilling effect, on every room.

Charles is so sweetly endearing. Took me a while to realise it was Harry Enfield.

Rhondaa · 14/05/2023 09:25

'It's not to do with him. Let his two brothers speak out. Why hasn't Anne or Edward spoken out then?'

Again, yes you'd have a point if they were on the telly non stop critiquing everyone else, but they aren't aren't they? And no, It's a Knock Out from decades ago does not count. They aren't on reality shows waaah'ing about all the meanies at the Palace and the nasty favouritism are they. You know and we know Harry needs the Yorks on side. As always it would be funny of it wasn't so pathetic.

notanotheroneagain · 14/05/2023 09:26

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:11

That last message was to @Roussette

@notanotheroneagain

I hate to disagree with you but I have been asked to remind you that there is only one ROCK in the whole ensemble, and that ROCK was Diana's.

Paul Burrell has asked me to remind you that he was Diana's ROCK, in capitals, like that, and that it is a condition of his every TV appearance that his adamantine status as Diana's ROCK be stated along with his name.

lol. How can I forget him 😂😂

KrasiTime · 14/05/2023 09:27

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/05/2023 09:22

@KrasiTime

Camilla and Puppah are the show..

I also love Anne's eh, chilling effect, on every room.

Charles is so sweetly endearing. Took me a while to realise it was Harry Enfield.

I couldn’t agree more!

SoTedious · 14/05/2023 09:32

There's a bit of a contradiction in there @notanotheroneagain - they talk about things that are of consequence to them but not Charles's affair, which is of consequence to Harry?

Maybe it's because if he opens the box on his father's affair, he might also have to consider his mother's affairs. Although to be fair he does seem happy to criticise Charles's failings as a parent without addressing Diana's. So who knows? - maybe there are just people they have a grudge against and people they don't. The former get criticised for any tiny thing, the latter don't, no matter what they've done.