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Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 10:48

So the American Heritage foundation has put in an appeal for their freedom of information application, to see Harry's original visa application, which has incidentally 'got lost'!

They feel that Harry has negated his right to privacy regarding this document because he has already put his drug use into the public domain.

The questions on the visa applications are about drug use or using substances you know to be prohibited, in your past or currently when the application was made.

Nothing to do with the fact cannabis is not prohibited in California currently and his current drug use.

Case I believe, is being brought against the department of homeland security, and the basis for the Heritage foundation is were equality laws followed or was Harry given preferential treatment because of his title. Interesting. Maybe Harry learns to keep his private drug use, private.

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skullbabe · 04/05/2023 15:54

8roses · 04/05/2023 15:39

Harry has been played from the start - even I would have known to warn him about admitting to drug use in print because it can cause problems getting in and out of America - Meghan must have known this and also their advisors

The ultimate action will be denial of his re-entry to the US if the the HF achieve the oversight of the DHS discretionary powers. He will need to return to the UK as he will not be allowed anywhere else. This of course will raise challenges for the RF and the government.

Damnedidont · 04/05/2023 16:10

I would like to think he would be treated the same as Joe Bloggs - but money and snobbery are alive and well and he will get away with it even if he lied through his teeth

SidekickSylvia · 04/05/2023 19:09

Roussette · 04/05/2023 12:52

This thread concerns an extremely privileged man who has admitted in his memoirs to taking drugs, while residing in a country than would normally refuse residency to people with drugs in their history

You're pushing it there. My ex flatmate of decades ago used to errmmm partake.. she lives there now. What's the difference? She's not been convicted. Nor has Harry.

I really wouldn't get steamed up about this if I were you.

'What's the difference?'

The admission, in writing, that he took illegal drugs. That's the difference, and I clearly say it in my post.

Another difference is that he is the son of the king of the UK, and that means that the press are interested in him. I don't care about your ex flatmate, because if they have a privilege, and are blatantly and publicly exploiting it, the general public aren't aware.

So, to clarify (because you appear to need it spelling out); The very famous son of the king resides in a country that would usually refuse residency to people who have taken drugs. He has admitted to taking drugs before he lived in that country, and since arriving. It has been published in his memoir. Somebody has raised this as a bit of an issue, and I find that interesting.

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polkadotdalmation · 04/05/2023 19:22

I wish people would quit with the haters word. It's childish and only fit for the playground. No one hates harry. It required too much effort. Dislike Despise. Fair comment.

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BadgerB · 04/05/2023 19:36

polkadotdalmation · Today 19:22
I wish people would quit with the haters word. It's childish and only fit for the playground. No one hates harry. It required too much effort. Dislike Despise. Fair comment.
I agree, pathetically childish. And even more "haterz", but that seems to have disappeared lately

vera99 · 04/05/2023 19:44

I think these legalistic folk concerned about US justice and rules would be better focusing on the visits of HRH Prince Andrew visiting his friend the convicted sex trafficker and paedophile Jeffery Epstein after his conviction stateswide and who has said he was happy to help the FBI with their investigations but has so far failed to do so.

ArcaneWireless · 04/05/2023 19:57

I completely agree with your last post vera

However, that does not mean Harry should escape scrutiny.

And given that the thread is about Harry, it is a pity we can’t discuss it sensibly instead of trying to deflect or distract.

It may be nothing. It may be something. But it would be nice to discuss what the actual OP is about for a change.

SidekickSylvia · 04/05/2023 19:58

vera99 · 04/05/2023 19:44

I think these legalistic folk concerned about US justice and rules would be better focusing on the visits of HRH Prince Andrew visiting his friend the convicted sex trafficker and paedophile Jeffery Epstein after his conviction stateswide and who has said he was happy to help the FBI with their investigations but has so far failed to do so.

I live in England, but English isn't my first language so please can someone advise me...

Is this called 'whataboutery' 'derailing' or 'sealioning'?

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 19:59

Rockybooboo · Today 14:57
Or maybe she really loves him.

Not impossible, I suppose, but extremely unlikely. She seems a reasonably intelligent woman, if totally self absorbed. She is unlikely to chuck him until she someone else in view
He, on the other hand, is an absolute disaster and getting more & more "lost". His only virtue seems to be his obvious love for his children.

vera99 · 04/05/2023 20:02

Apologies for the derail. I'll just leave it there but as sure as apples are apples Harry isn't going to get his collar felt, so we are almost howling at the moon., IMHO beacuse he isn't a mere mortal but the second son of Charles 111 - the King of Great Britain and Norther Ireland.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 20:04

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 19:59

Rockybooboo · Today 14:57
Or maybe she really loves him.

Not impossible, I suppose, but extremely unlikely. She seems a reasonably intelligent woman, if totally self absorbed. She is unlikely to chuck him until she someone else in view
He, on the other hand, is an absolute disaster and getting more & more "lost". His only virtue seems to be his obvious love for his children.

That's just nasty in my opinion. Have you met her? I

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polkadotdalmation · 04/05/2023 20:04

SidekickSylvia · 04/05/2023 19:58

I live in England, but English isn't my first language so please can someone advise me...

Is this called 'whataboutery' 'derailing' or 'sealioning'?

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all of the above as well as chaff and deflect...what aircraft do to distract heat seeking missiles. Get it all the time. Not heard of sealioning though!

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Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 20:05

ArcaneWireless · 04/05/2023 19:57

I completely agree with your last post vera

However, that does not mean Harry should escape scrutiny.

And given that the thread is about Harry, it is a pity we can’t discuss it sensibly instead of trying to deflect or distract.

It may be nothing. It may be something. But it would be nice to discuss what the actual OP is about for a change.

It's a discussion forum.

Maireas · 04/05/2023 20:07

PollyPeptide · 03/05/2023 12:18

That's all old hat, though. We've already gossiped about all that. I want fresh meat. Mind you, nothing much fresh about Harry's meat - it's all frozen. Hehe.

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You are very naughty!

ArcaneWireless · 04/05/2023 20:10

Fair doos @vera99

There is bloody howling on most threads regarding the Royals - both sides.

And I’ve probably been as guilty of it as everyone else.

Maireas · 04/05/2023 20:10

I should think it's highly unlikely Harry will be troubled by this. Princely privilege...

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 20:11

Rockybooboo · Today 14:57
That's just nasty in my opinion. Have you met her?

Of course I haven't met her! Has anyone posting on MN met her? I doubt it. We form our opinions of public figures from their public behaviour.

And I thought my judgement was quite generous...

ArcaneWireless · 04/05/2023 20:13

I’m well aware it is a discussion forum rocky.

But are derails really necessary? I don’t think so. There is plenty to be said or discussed without resorting to insults, snark or any other attempt to shut down opinions.

PollyPeptide · 04/05/2023 20:14

polkadotdalmation · 04/05/2023 20:04

all of the above as well as chaff and deflect...what aircraft do to distract heat seeking missiles. Get it all the time. Not heard of sealioning though!

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Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

Well, I never knew that. Plenty of sealioning on the royal board, that's for sure!
Thanks for that, Sylvia. Clearly your English is a lot better than mine!

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polkadotdalmation · 04/05/2023 20:14

@skullbabe You've summed it up very accurately. I don't believe however that he will be asked to leave, it will be a slap on the wrist if anything at all.

The latest from BBB is looking through the documentation, the DHS have sent out two template letters saying basically nothing, but denying the request. They also say the file has gone missing. They say the name may be wrong. They say there is not enough detail in the request, despite there being tons of detail.

Basically covering Harry's arse, just like the RF did and allowing him to take no responsibility.

I understand people don't like the royal family, fair enough, and accuse them of using their wealth, privilege and so on to avoid taxes, as well as covering up other things.

So here we have Harry, doing precisely what his family are accused off, using wealth, privilege etc to evade scrutiny and behave illegally, yet he is being protected by the american DHS (aka covered up) but the usual suspects on here who can't wait to point the finger at the RF (which they have every right to do), are vigourously defending Harry, for doing just what the RF do.

I accuse Harry of hypocrisy, but he's clearly not alone, as the stance here literally, makes no sense.

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polkadotdalmation · 04/05/2023 20:16

Sealioning! Genius 😂

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ArcaneWireless · 04/05/2023 20:19

Me too Maireas

It would be interesting to me to see not if Harry is going to be an exception with regards to past indiscretions and connections but if he could be the catalyst for any sort of change to entry requirements.

Never heard of sealioning either - every day is a schoolday.

Could have absolutely been done without the lesson on a particular butter though… 😳

PollyPeptide · 04/05/2023 20:22

Could have absolutely been done without the lesson on a particular butter though… 😳

Some things you just don't want to learn. 😂😂😂

Maireas · 04/05/2023 20:25

I'm late to this thread, I don't understand the butter reference. Is it similar to the usage of Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream, and I don't mean his Mummy's lips?.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 20:25

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 20:11

Rockybooboo · Today 14:57
That's just nasty in my opinion. Have you met her?

Of course I haven't met her! Has anyone posting on MN met her? I doubt it. We form our opinions of public figures from their public behaviour.

And I thought my judgement was quite generous...

What public behaviour have you witnessed that makes you think she probably doesn't love her husband and is self absorbed