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The royal family

Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!

292 replies

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 10:48

So the American Heritage foundation has put in an appeal for their freedom of information application, to see Harry's original visa application, which has incidentally 'got lost'!

They feel that Harry has negated his right to privacy regarding this document because he has already put his drug use into the public domain.

The questions on the visa applications are about drug use or using substances you know to be prohibited, in your past or currently when the application was made.

Nothing to do with the fact cannabis is not prohibited in California currently and his current drug use.

Case I believe, is being brought against the department of homeland security, and the basis for the Heritage foundation is were equality laws followed or was Harry given preferential treatment because of his title. Interesting. Maybe Harry learns to keep his private drug use, private.

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maranella · 04/05/2023 10:43

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 10:40

Brilliant so can you tell me about Charles's close relationship with Saville. Which of the three options are most likely

Was he really stupid and naive that he didn't know what was going on despite it being an open secret?
Did he know but rich white men must stick together?
Charles has dark secrets to hide

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Morestrangerthings · 04/05/2023 11:10

vera99 · 04/05/2023 08:44

And to the haters if your wish comes true then he and his family may come back to the UK probably to wreak havoc back within the royal fold. Be careful what you wish for ...

Not sure the haters have thought that out Vera99.

Too intent on what was it OP said, Harry being ‘humiliated?’

derxa · 04/05/2023 11:14

Harry needs to stop using drugs full stop.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 11:15

@maranella . That is the best option. It does show up the problems with monarchy. You get a head of state who has the emotional intelligence of a newt.

maranella · 04/05/2023 11:18

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 11:15

@maranella . That is the best option. It does show up the problems with monarchy. You get a head of state who has the emotional intelligence of a newt.

Correct. They're a load of dimwits. Have you seen the C4 documentary on Prince Andrew? Part one was this week, part two next week. Thick as pigshit. Harry's the same. But who needs brains when they've got that level of privilege?

Morestrangerthings · 04/05/2023 11:22

Gymtastic · 04/05/2023 08:38

Eh? Loads of people won't declare drug use on visa applications

lots of folks steal, assault and do other criminal activities, does not make it ok.

So, we now have posters equating personal drug use with assault?

no eye roll big enough.

SidekickSylvia · 04/05/2023 11:36

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 09:55

So why ask everyone to read the thread as if they were impartial when you're not.

I didn't ask everyone. I was specifically replying to another poster, to see who looks deranged.

Anyway, to posters comparing Harry's admission to rape (Vera99), murder (Roussette) and pretty much every other crime it's possible to commit by association (Rocky), then - unless the alleged perpetrators of those crimes have actually included it in their memoirs - it doesn't really bear any comparison.

This thread concerns an extremely privileged man who has admitted in his memoirs to taking drugs, while residing in a country than would normally refuse residency to people with drugs in their history. What makes this interesting (for me) is the admission in his memoir. Diana using Jimmy Savile for marriage guidance and calling him her best friend is neither here nor there.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 11:58

SidekickSylvia · 04/05/2023 11:36

I didn't ask everyone. I was specifically replying to another poster, to see who looks deranged.

Anyway, to posters comparing Harry's admission to rape (Vera99), murder (Roussette) and pretty much every other crime it's possible to commit by association (Rocky), then - unless the alleged perpetrators of those crimes have actually included it in their memoirs - it doesn't really bear any comparison.

This thread concerns an extremely privileged man who has admitted in his memoirs to taking drugs, while residing in a country than would normally refuse residency to people with drugs in their history. What makes this interesting (for me) is the admission in his memoir. Diana using Jimmy Savile for marriage guidance and calling him her best friend is neither here nor there.

I wasn't comparing taking drugs to rape. I'm talking about how serious it is that rich white men have priviledge to help them get away with questionable behavior Of course no one is going to include their friendships with paedophiles in memoirs. They've got staff on hand to make sure its hidden.

Why have you changed it from Charles to Diana when discussing Savile? She isn't rhe Head of State and unlike Charles, she didn't have connections to other sex offenders.

Sudeko · 04/05/2023 12:00

🙄

Sudeko · 04/05/2023 12:00

Time for a pretzel

RoseAndRose · 04/05/2023 12:52

LadyMuckingabout · 04/05/2023 10:03

I don’t want him separated from his family, but I think he should receive a rap over the knuckles. If he is a private citizen, he should be bound by the same rules as everyone else. He is very entitled and bumptious (as are indeed other royals) and he needs to grow up.

He would only separated from his DC, if he lost permission to reside in US (which is far from a given) if they decided that the only place the family could possibly reside is the US.

There are other options available to them

Roussette · 04/05/2023 12:52

This thread concerns an extremely privileged man who has admitted in his memoirs to taking drugs, while residing in a country than would normally refuse residency to people with drugs in their history

You're pushing it there. My ex flatmate of decades ago used to errmmm partake.. she lives there now. What's the difference? She's not been convicted. Nor has Harry.

I really wouldn't get steamed up about this if I were you.

Porridgealert · 04/05/2023 13:56

Wait. What? Charles murdered someone? Was it over that leaking pen? Although, tbf, I'd have been mad over that too.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 14:15

RoseAndRose · 04/05/2023 12:52

He would only separated from his DC, if he lost permission to reside in US (which is far from a given) if they decided that the only place the family could possibly reside is the US.

There are other options available to them

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Keith Richards ahd Ozzy Osbourne on't seem to have any problems getting in and out of the States.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 14:17

i have no idea why those kittens are on my last post. No drugs involved I promise

RoseAndRose · 04/05/2023 14:21

Keith Richards ahd Ozzy Osbourne on't seem to have any problems getting in and out of the States

Agree, that's why I posted yesterday that we also do not know that he didn't disclose drug taking (after all, it had been in the press, as had visit to rehab centre). Because it's not an automatic lifetime ban, it's just one of many factors in an application

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 14:54

maranella · Today 10:12
And let's face it, if/when Meghan does decide she's had enough of needy Harry, she's got a shitload of ammunition right there in his memoir.

Meghan will work out, if she hasn't already, that she no longer needs Harry to connect her to the Royal Family. She has two children - a Prince and a Princess

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 14:57

BadgerB · 04/05/2023 14:54

maranella · Today 10:12
And let's face it, if/when Meghan does decide she's had enough of needy Harry, she's got a shitload of ammunition right there in his memoir.

Meghan will work out, if she hasn't already, that she no longer needs Harry to connect her to the Royal Family. She has two children - a Prince and a Princess

Or maybe she really loves him.

tommika · 04/05/2023 15:06

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:07

So they would have lied too? America has strict laws on drugs as they have a massive problem themselves. If Harry lied he should have kept quiet in his book and interviews. In fact he should have kept quiet full stop and maintained his and other people's 'privacy'.

‘If he lied’

John Lydon is a US citizen despite previous visa refusals due to drugs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1977/12/30/us-denies-tour-visas-to-the-sex-pistols/6e1f39c5-6c21-463a-bdab-ceb3f7f1e673/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lydon#:~:text=This%20is%20PiL.-,Citizenship,his%20British%20and%20Irish%20citizenships.

John Lennon was to be deported until a successful appeal was completed in court

https://www.benvaughn.com/john-lennons-long-road-to-u-s-residency-the-historic-1976-decision-that-changed-everything/#:~:text=Due%20to%20Lennon's%201968%20marijuana,stay%20in%20the%20United%20States.

Drugs use ‘may’ result in a visa refusal

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/visa-denials.html#:~:text=An%20applicant's%20current%20and%2For,section%20of%20law%20which%20applies.

John Lydon - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lydon#:~:text=This%20is%20PiL.-,Citizenship,his%20British%20and%20Irish%20citizenships.

skullbabe · 04/05/2023 15:07

This thread concerns an extremely privileged man who has admitted in his memoirs to taking drugs, while residing in a country than would normally refuse residency to people with drugs in their history.

I think that the issue at hand of course is fairness. In the papers that the Heritage Foundation filed with the court, it appears that there seems to be concerns with regards to how visa discretion is applied by the Department of Homeland Security in the face of Harry’s admitted drug use in Spare. It does seem unfair that many people can and have had their visa applications denied due to admitted historic drug use in the face of his. The Heritage Foundation make mention of a British actress who was denied work as a consequence of previous drug use. I have read the case of a Filipino couple who during a medical physical the husband admitted to drug use in his teens, and this was the basis to deny a spousal visa on his behalf.

I don't think that the Heritage Foundation will be successful in petitioning for the release of Harry’s immigration record because these are usually exempt from FOIA requests for living people. However, I think that they could be successful with petitioning for greater oversight of the discretionary powers of DHS with the effect but there will be zero tolerance for admitted drug use on all these applications applied equally across the board. This of course will have devastating effects on things like the entertainment industry and of course Harry and his family. Only time will tell whether this is the direction of travel they will be going. Ultimately if Harry is denied entry to United States as a consequence of this, he and his family have very little option but to return to the United Kingdom. This is because most countries will decline entry to visitors if they've had a strike elsewhere. If that is the case, I think that things will be very difficult for their family in the UK, but I have every faith that if this was to happen, they would be just fine.

skullbabe · 04/05/2023 15:10

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 14:15

Keith Richards ahd Ozzy Osbourne on't seem to have any problems getting in and out of the States.

Agreed and this is what the HF are pushing - is there any oversight of the discretionary powers of the DHS? Should there be?

Or this is at least what I think they're looking for.

8roses · 04/05/2023 15:37

Prince Harry, Keith Richards and Ozzy Osborne 😂😂 speaks volumes

8roses · 04/05/2023 15:39

Harry has been played from the start - even I would have known to warn him about admitting to drug use in print because it can cause problems getting in and out of America - Meghan must have known this and also their advisors

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 15:50

8roses · 04/05/2023 15:39

Harry has been played from the start - even I would have known to warn him about admitting to drug use in print because it can cause problems getting in and out of America - Meghan must have known this and also their advisors

Nothing wrong with Keith Richards or Ozzy Osbourne these days. Both teached theor 70s, respected and successful in their careers and long and happy marriages. I don't know as much about Ozzy but Keith was a heroin addict for 10 years but they were both allowed to live in the States.

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