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Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 10:48

So the American Heritage foundation has put in an appeal for their freedom of information application, to see Harry's original visa application, which has incidentally 'got lost'!

They feel that Harry has negated his right to privacy regarding this document because he has already put his drug use into the public domain.

The questions on the visa applications are about drug use or using substances you know to be prohibited, in your past or currently when the application was made.

Nothing to do with the fact cannabis is not prohibited in California currently and his current drug use.

Case I believe, is being brought against the department of homeland security, and the basis for the Heritage foundation is were equality laws followed or was Harry given preferential treatment because of his title. Interesting. Maybe Harry learns to keep his private drug use, private.

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:09

Rockybooboo · 03/05/2023 12:22

Well not really as we don't know the full details as its probably been covered by the FOI exceprion.

What specific FOI exemption? Their claim is that have has voluntarily given up his right to privacy where the drugs are concerned as the information is already in the public domain. Not sure there are other exemptions

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:11

WheelsUp · 03/05/2023 12:29

I don't think that anything will come of it. They allow politicians and celebrities who take drugs enter the country and live there so unless Harry was dealing or part of a violent drug gang, he'll be absolutely fine.
(Note I'm not saying he is part of a violent drug gang, I'm saying that is what it would take to be deported)

I think you're missing the point. It's not what people do with drugs, it's what they put on official documents, and then sign them as truthful. You can't sign a legal document as truthful knowing it's a lie.

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:12

maranella · 03/05/2023 12:52

It will go nowhere. He's Prince Harry. People like him aren't subject to the same rules as the rest of us. How many British rock stars with very clear drug-addled pasts now reside in the USA? Does anyone think Ozzy Osbourne has been clean as a whistle his who life?

But regardless, if no one questioned and investigated Ozzy's visa, it wouldn't matter. They are investigating Harry's, which is the point.

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StormzyinaTCup · 03/05/2023 13:16

Thanks for the thread on this @polkadotdalmation
@FrippEnos I think it’s interesting too from a legal point of view and I also regularly watch the BBB.

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:19

I'm pretty sure even if the document turns up....and how in the world do you 'lose' a document in the internet age? ... Harry won't have to suffer consequences like being turfed out of the country.

Personally I want him to stay in America and they can put up with him. I do want him to have a bit of temporary discomfort and have to deal with people who are not shut down with an arrogant look (as in the Tom bradby interview), or his 'do you know who I am' arrogance.

He wants none of the trappings of royalty (apart from the titles), now he needs to learn to live like an ordinary person. If that's possible in a mansion with no more palace officials covering up for him.

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:20

@StormzyinaTCup BBB is brilliant, I watch too 😀

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vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:20

Let's have a guess....utter nonsense.

Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!
Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!
Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!
polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:21

@vera99 ?

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BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 03/05/2023 13:22

the weirdos here salivating over everything he does loool

AskMeMore · 03/05/2023 13:23

Bloody hell, you may as well title this conspiracy theorists gather on this thread.
Sure the US will turf Harry out of the country and any other foreign national who has ever used drugs.
In reality OP what counts is drug prosecutions.

vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:26

Connection is everything Harry is great friends with Biden and Obama in the scheme of things. He's not going to be prosecuted despite what hay may be made elsewhere.

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:36

AskMeMore · 03/05/2023 13:23

Bloody hell, you may as well title this conspiracy theorists gather on this thread.
Sure the US will turf Harry out of the country and any other foreign national who has ever used drugs.
In reality OP what counts is drug prosecutions.

Categorically untrue. It's what he wrote on the visa application and that is not about convictions but about drug misuse. You cannot lie on legal documents.

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vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:36

Oh, and the same reason Andrew appears to be above the law. They are protected entities.

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:40

vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:26

Connection is everything Harry is great friends with Biden and Obama in the scheme of things. He's not going to be prosecuted despite what hay may be made elsewhere.

I know that. He'll get a slap on the wrist at worst. As far as my interest goes it's about exposing him as a liar. It's exposing the arrogance of someone whose family covered up much of his problems for a very long time, and who he then decided to throw under the bus for money.

If he feels some embarrassment from the whole issue and learns he is not as special as he thinks it is, I'm good with that. A touch of humiliation and humility would look better on him.

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:40

vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:36

Oh, and the same reason Andrew appears to be above the law. They are protected entities.

3-2-1...andrew! 👏👏👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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vera99 · 03/05/2023 13:40

Oh, and Sir Jimmy Saville wasn't prosecuted in his lifetime despite being interviewed under caution.

Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!
AskMeMore · 03/05/2023 13:43

You are seriously comparing lying on a visa form about taking drugs, to raping a sex trafficked teenager.

LadyKenya · 03/05/2023 13:51

Sounds like someone has too much time on their hands. Find something constructive to do.

Riapia · 03/05/2023 13:51

Iminthemoneylife · 03/05/2023 11:49

I love your honesty!

Any MN member who denies loving a bit of gossip is a liar.
No exceptions.
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StormzyinaTCup · 03/05/2023 13:56

The whole point is this wouldn’t even be a discussion point never mind a legal matter if he hadn’t talked about his drug taking. Now uncomfortable questions are being asked of both PH and Homeland Security. He really doesn’t help himself (or his family).

RoseAndRose · 03/05/2023 13:58

When the news broke about Jimmy Saville, I was disbelieving at first - because I just couldn't believe our fearless, investigative press (that would even turn to the illegal actions of phone hacking) did not find him out. Especially if, as so many people said "we all knew"

I don't think everyone did no. I don't think for example Margaret Thatcher (who was also a close contact) had any support for paedophile sleazeballs. And so I'm a bit wary of linking the public figures he courted (for his "respectability") to his offending. I don't think (or at least I hope) that the 'we all knew' commentators did actually all know. Perhaps they just don't want to look unaware or out-of -touch?

Harry has no convictions, and we don't know what he wrote on his visa applications.

As long as he's not caught using drugs illegally in US, I think he'll be OK. Slap on the wrist if he didn't own up about any drug use (if required to do so, I haven't seen the form), but only in danger of status being rescinded if he lied on the application about something like a conviction.

And even then, those with convictions aren't automatically and permanently barred from US. Their visas do have to be individually assessed (you can't use the waivers etc) but the outcome could be either way, depending on all factors

polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 13:58

So as not to be derailed as the defend and deflect brigade are intent on...

so Harry will be using not only Royal privilege but White Privilege to evade the laws that govern ordinary members of the community? And you're defending that?

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 14:01

@RoseAndRose I've seen the form and you must specifically say if you've used illegal drugs in the past. It's not about convictions.

He will get away with it I'm sure, but that doesn't make it right. He's using royal privilege and white privilege. Where does that leave his credibility and woke credentials?

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polkadotdalmation · 03/05/2023 14:02

StormzyinaTCup · 03/05/2023 13:56

The whole point is this wouldn’t even be a discussion point never mind a legal matter if he hadn’t talked about his drug taking. Now uncomfortable questions are being asked of both PH and Homeland Security. He really doesn’t help himself (or his family).

You're saying he's a dickhead? 😂😂😂

If you're not then I am. Oversharing should be renamed Harrysharing

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vera99 · 03/05/2023 14:03

RoseAndRose · 03/05/2023 13:58

When the news broke about Jimmy Saville, I was disbelieving at first - because I just couldn't believe our fearless, investigative press (that would even turn to the illegal actions of phone hacking) did not find him out. Especially if, as so many people said "we all knew"

I don't think everyone did no. I don't think for example Margaret Thatcher (who was also a close contact) had any support for paedophile sleazeballs. And so I'm a bit wary of linking the public figures he courted (for his "respectability") to his offending. I don't think (or at least I hope) that the 'we all knew' commentators did actually all know. Perhaps they just don't want to look unaware or out-of -touch?

Harry has no convictions, and we don't know what he wrote on his visa applications.

As long as he's not caught using drugs illegally in US, I think he'll be OK. Slap on the wrist if he didn't own up about any drug use (if required to do so, I haven't seen the form), but only in danger of status being rescinded if he lied on the application about something like a conviction.

And even then, those with convictions aren't automatically and permanently barred from US. Their visas do have to be individually assessed (you can't use the waivers etc) but the outcome could be either way, depending on all factors

Sir Peter Morrison was exposed as a notorious paedophile after he died and an alcoholic to boot. He was Thatcher's right-hand man - she knew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Morrison

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