Harry may be in trouble with his Visa application!

[polkadotdalmation]

So the American Heritage foundation has put in an appeal for their freedom of information application, to see Harry's original visa application, which has incidentally 'got lost'!

They feel that Harry has negated his right to privacy regarding this document because he has already put his drug use into the public domain.

The questions on the visa applications are about drug use or using substances you know to be prohibited, in your past or currently when the application was made.

Nothing to do with the fact cannabis is not prohibited in California currently and his current drug use.

Case I believe, is being brought against the department of homeland security, and the basis for the Heritage foundation is were equality laws followed or was Harry given preferential treatment because of his title. Interesting. Maybe Harry learns to keep his private drug use, private.

Speculating about marriages ending is nasty. It makes me wonder what is going on in someone' life to sound so bitter.

I agree.

Although I find it equally bitter and nasty to speculate about affairs too. It is just as distasteful and yet folk seem happy enough to let it stand.

The big fat truth of it is that we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors (unless they publicise it) and we don’t know what the future holds either. The people concerned know and that is it.

As you pointed out rocky it is a discussion forum. And if one thing is deemed to be ok to say, than surely speculation about someone else’s marriage is part of the discussion.

Both are nasty in my book but speculating shouldn’t be acceptable for one couple and jumped on if it is another.

I have stated in a number of threads that any reference in regards to an ‘affair’ is just wrong and uncalled for.

i am very tired of people defending the predictions of posters in regard to marriage breakups by saying ‘the other side do it.’ No one here has done so.

Who has speculated about a marriage breakdown in anything other than a joke? Not a good joke admittedly but no one seriously want children to be deprived of their parent.

Ive looked through and can only see a dumb jokey post. Not a serious prediction

So would I - hence why I asked for clarification. Wonder if she’s make it clearer for us who obviously don’t understand.

Rockybooboo · Today 11:09
Do you always predict marriages ending @BadgerB. Did predict all the other break ups? The Queen's 3 children? Princess Margaret's son? Peter Phillips

No, I didn't. Their private lives were not so much discussed. They avoided publicity. Didn't give interview or Netflix productions proving how happy they were

ArcaneWireless · Today 11:22
Speculating about marriages ending is nasty. It makes me wonder what is going on in someone' life to sound so bitter.

We've already established that I'm "nasty", but you may be sorry to learn I'm not at all bitter. My life is good. All my family content - as far as I know. None of them divorced anyway.

But I didn’t call you nasty Rocky so I don’t see why you feel the need to tell me otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Why would I care about your life or be sorry to hear you are happy when I don’t know you from an egg? Good for you that you are happy but it really is none of my business.

And aye, I know you have strangerthings but plenty others don’t.

I get equally tired of any argument or difference of opinion being put down (by others) to Meghan being a person of colour, being a DM or express reader or just a forelock tugger. Or deflecting and distracting from a sensible discussion to point a spindly finger at someone else.

It is wearisome and brings nowt to the discussion.

Just my opinion. That’s all.

@ArcaneWireless Totally agree. The constant name calling etc is tiresome. Apparently it's called sealioning. Learnt something new yesterday!

Name calling isn’t sealioning

I honestly hadn’t heard of sealioning until yesterday dalmation

I’m nominating crabbing next - being nippy. 🦀 🦀 😉

"Sealioning" refers to a situation where a person repeatedly demands that their interlocutor provide evidence or prove their point, often in a disingenuous or insincere way, under the guise of polite and reasonable debate.

The behavior is seen as a form of harassment because it can be used to waste the time and energy of the person being "sealioned", as well as to undermine their credibility or make them feel attacked or overwhelmed. It can also be used to derail conversations or distract from more substantive issues. Attached is the comic the term came from.

Agreed, it's no name calling, but I was in a busy area on a tiny phone, so difficult to concentrate taste on what I'm writing. Its the endless, endless, snipping and diverting, changing the subject, jimmy saville, Andrew, your a racist, and on and in on is sealioning. I did learn about this yesterday, and thought it so appropriate an explanation of some of the behaviours here.

Cartoon, is bloody hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Haven't changed the subject. Haven't mentioned Jimmy Saville, Andrew, or Meghan except to answer posters who have brought her up
I have discussed...

• the privilege of the royal family in relation to Charles but including Harry
• the roots and views of this group challenging visa requirements (totally on track with the subject of the OP),
• I've replied to a poster bringing up Meghan and her black friends not being at the wedding because if she had any they would be there because they'd want the spotlight (not brought up by me)
• questioned someone else predicting (or wishing.. who knows) their marriage would end (ditto, not brought up by me)...

So if you want to talk about the new phrase sealioning.... maybe address those posters and not imagine everyone who doesn't want Harry to be in big visa doodoos is diverting, snipping or misbehaving on here!!

ArcaneWireless · Today 12:02
But I didn’t call you nasty Rocky so I don’t see why you feel the need to tell me otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Why would I care about your life or be sorry to hear you are happy when I don’t know you from an egg? Good for you that you are happy but it really is none of my business.

You aimed the above at the wrong person. It wasn't Rocky who predicted the demise of the Sussex marriage, it was me. My comment was in response to you posting this -* *
ArcaneWireless · Today 11:22
Speculating about marriages ending is nasty. It makes me wonder what is going on in someone' life to sound so bitter.

Enough already!!

I agree. Another technique is the fan putting words into the mouth of another poster and then the other fan coming along and reinforcing it when you never said it at all. Like you see here when Rousette mentions Meghan's wedding guests. I never brought up this wedding or her other weddings and partnerships, Skullbabe did. It becomes impossible for them to be taken seriously.

'The other fan' 😂🤣

People only need to read back to understand, it's obviously hit home! I did not bring up wedding guests. Someone said she had no friends, the lovely skullbabe pointed out she had college friends, people who came to her wedding and so on.

I don't mind if you don't take me seriously, no skin off my nose 😁

@polkadotdalmation Yes, sealioning describes what happens here rather well.

The thing is, they don’t actually help their cause when they behave like that - because everyone can see exactly what’s going. It certainly isn’t a way to win hearts and minds

It's not likely that all the non-celebrity black female friends would want to stay out of the spotlight.

This is what you said - I asked a very specific question to you about what it meant. I am not a Meghan fan - I’m just someone who is against vilification of people regardless of who they are. This is a consistent stance I have.

another day and more name calling of people who don't agree with the op.

BadgerB

I never aimed it at anyone - I don’t know why Rocky assumed it was towards her.

The quote that you seem to be attributing to me at 1122 was actually written by Rockybooboo at 1054 if you want to look. I merely quoted it. And agreed.

Enough already? Yep. I’m tired of folk having a bit of a poke because they have an inability to read my posts properly or are trying to put something into my mouth that I never said.

I don’t mind putting my hands up when I get it wrong or say something out of turn in error.

But I do tend to see my arse when I get popped at for something that either wasn’t me or someone chose to read something in my post that was never there.

Aye. Enough already!

Personal insults surely means that argument is lost.
Isn't this about Harry and his US visa? I think he's quite safe. There's no way a rich white Prince would lose a visa.

I quite agree. Double standards are international, sadly...

i havent mentioned anything about affairs.