The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

Where is this letter? And how we do know what's in it?

Its existence hasn’t been confirmed or denied by the authors or recipient and neither have the contents. It’s based on a media report.

Thomas Markle is NC with his adult grandchildren. Are they mentioned in the interview?
Charles could be skyping once a week as my friend does for her grandchildren in Australia.

The comment wasn’t directed at you or implied you raised your children to worship a meaningless industry. It was directed to me.

I didn't read the article but was this aimed at Harry? if so yes I absolutely agree.

And if that letter didn't actually exist or was made up, that article would have been pulled. There were numerous amendments to the article, and at least one journalist claimed that lawyers for both royal family and Sussexes had contacted the telegraph regarding the article, and yet only amendments were made to the article. Also the statement issued by Meghan over the letter leaking was a non denial. So there's a good chance those letters between Meghan and Charles mentioning unconscious bias does indeed exist.

Also, Meghan herself didn't hear or witness the actual conversation that Harry had with the unknown royal who made the remark about their child’s appearance. It was Harry himself who apparently heard it, and he's the one who’s now denied that it was racism, and claims it was unconscious bias.

I'm not commenting on whether the poster was right to say what she said - I'm saying that there was no attack on the daughter. Saying she feels sorry for the daughter isn't attacking the daughter.

comment wasn’t directed at you or implied you raised your children to worship a meaningless industry. It was directed to me

I would have treated the comment in exactly the same way, I have received similar comments as this before but as I said maybe I have a thick skin. Those comments were certainly not in the same league as Tatalan’s but I’m not going to spend anymore time debating it, the comments have been said, they broke guidelines and they were removed.

@Janiie it's directed to Thomas Markle. Meaning of course you disagree with it vehemently 😅

Thanks Whaeanui.

This gels with what I've found on the internet. So, At this point there is no letter. Certainly not something you could use as 'proof' that Meghan Markle has changed her opinions regarding what she said on OW.

@Xenia

It seems a shame she cannot take the children to see him and her half siblings even if it is through gritted teeth.

Why are the half-siblings not mending fences with their own estranged kids, through gritted teeth? And why is Thomas not as focused on seeing the other 5 grandkids he doesn't see?

The Markle siblings are better advised to start seeing their own kids and not obsess over seeing Meghan's, and Grandpa Markle is better advised to reach out to his older grandkids because his own conduct means that he will never see his youngest.

Why would I? I of course agree with what Feltz said, my point is it equally applies to the Sussexes. They all need to get off the telly and just zip it about private family matters.

Are they being brought up in a weirder way than their Grandad Charles, dad and Uncle.
The Queen would go away for months at a time without Charles and they shook hands when she retuned. They paraded around in front of cameras even at their mother's funeral .

No, but it is attacking the mother, who has been subjected on this thread to a torrent of abuse by a poster who had most of their nasty posts deleted for personal attacks.

I just feel mixed has been kicked enough for one day. As a mother I feel the worse thing you can do is attack someone's parenting as though you know what's best for the child.

Sorry if it wasn't your comment or personal point of view.

Back on topic, Thomas and his toxic children, need to walk away now and shut up. Thomas may be hurt but has to accept the daughter he brought up is now on a different pathway and is lost to him. He has other gchildren, so just enjoy his time with them and forget about MM and her family.

Honestly, it's really none of our business how Meghan and Harry raise their kids. As long as they both love and care for their children (which they obviously do), we really shouldn't judge how their kids will turn out. And who cares if Meghan and Harry choose to distance themselves from the rest of his family? They get to decide what's best for their kids, no one else. It doesn't make them bad parents. In fact, it's sometimes better to go no contact or maintain distance to avoid further issues.

Also, I don't think it's fair for people to demand Meghan contact her family who have gossiped about her to the media.

I think Samantha comes across as a toxic jealous person, and same with Thomas jr. As for Meghan’s dad, I don't think it's any of our business either if Meghan chooses to go no contact with him. I've noticed though that some pro Sussex fans have no problem when Harry does the same thing to his family like what the Markles are doing to Meghan. They make excuses for him like family is family and they claim that at the end of the day, Harry loves his family even if he's talked crap about them in interviews, books, documentaries and even his court cases. I doubt they would be willing to make the same excuses for the Markles though.

@Rockybooboo I guess my point is that Archie and Lilibet are being brought up in an unnecessarily weird way due in large part to their parents' life choices.

Forcing a relationship with hostile family members onto your kids is definitely more toxic. We think we are doing 'the right thing' but it leads to many more seasons of Jeremy Kyle, not love and harmony.

It can only work where it is an arrangement between otherwise mature, reasonable adults who have fallen out in less complex ways for comparatively superficial reasons.

What do you think is weird about it?

@Janiie in the article it was aimed at the markles, but I think it also applies to M & H. It is also good advice to anyone thinking about engaging with the media.

They are part of a loving family with loving family . There's nothing weird about that

With loving parents, I mean

I doubt they would be willing to make the same excuses for the Markles though

Agreed. Harry and Meghan go NC with the Markles and Will and Kate go NC with H&M.

Job done.

They may or may not be raised in a loving family unit but at least they are aspiring to it. The chances are that there will be issues within their family unit too as it is what they have both known. Both parents have long, complicated dysfunctional relationship patterns and certainly in Harry's case, the drugs and therapy haven't been working as far as I can see. So the odds are not great but they are being proactive in trying to avoid a repetition which is a good thing, not something to criticise.

Yes and I'm sure the letter that Meghan wrote to her dad and had been mentioned by the five friends in the people article didn't exist either at that time it was mentioned because the direct contents hadn't been leaked yet. Perhaps the actual contents of this letter between Meghan and Charles can't be directly leaked otherwise a copyright lawsuit may soon follow, as what happened with the Daily Mail versus Meghan. Again, if this letter didn't exist, why hasn't the article been pulled, despite the lawyers being called in?

I reported the posts attacking Mixed because they clearly broke talk guidelines and were a personal attack. Although they were not a direct attack on her DD, they also mentioned her DD in ways that many posters seem to find unacceptable when directed at the Sussex or Wales children and rightly so. I don’t think it is appropriate to minimise a personal attack on a poster just because you didn’t t see it. I would hope this would apply to personal attacks on any poster. The posts were very unpleasant and certainly seemed to me to be about Mixed’s daughter and her parenting skills. I understand why Mixed did not want the posts removed with hindsight as posters are clearly minimising what was said, but I felt that the posts so clearly breached guidelines that they should be removed. Many other posters have often said that such things should be reported to @MNHQ and not dealt with in thread and this is the correct course of action imho.