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Why is Harry coming to the coronation at all?

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maranella · 24/04/2023 16:45

He's apparently not going to see his father and he's just flying in an out, leaving immediately after the ceremony to rush back to California. I know it's nice to be at your kid's birthday party, but FFS this is his father's coronation, a day he's been waiting for his whole life. So Harry is flying all the way over here, no doubt burning up the planet on a fucking private jet, and all for what? To be seen to be there? What for? What a waste of time. If he's not even going to celebrate with his family I don't know why he doesn't just stay in California, since that's clearly where he'd rather be. I don't understand why he's coming at all.

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LadyEloise1 · 25/04/2023 15:44

Sudeko · 24/04/2023 16:52

The brand is fueled by Harry keeping up a current and ongoing relationship with the royal family. They don't want him there, he doesn't want to be there but he must keep it up to maintain interest in his brand and generate the money for his expensive lifestyle. It also generates headlines for the royal family so it is a win-win.

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LadyEloise1 · 25/04/2023 15:44

iliketobooogie · 24/04/2023 16:59

He's doing it because it would look awful if he didn't go.
It looks awful that Meghan and the kids aren't going, but worse if Harry didn't go.
So he's going and avoiding everyone and then rushing off, how depressing... he must regret his multiple interviews and tell all book, when he has to do stuff like this.
They only wanted "privacy", yeah right!

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LadyEloise1 · 25/04/2023 15:45

Rhondaa · 24/04/2023 17:32

Because much as he seems to loathe them he needs the Royal link for his US enablers and paychecks.

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Roussette · 25/04/2023 15:46

People really don't understand what privacy is, do they, despite trying to explain it on these threads endlessly.

michaelmacrae · 25/04/2023 15:48

2012 settlement covering both princes (unless The Guardian was wrong about that, in which case we prob shouldn't believe any part of the article). This was the year Harry deployed to Afghanistan, so was very much occupied with military duties, not Palace stuff.

So did H know about this settlement, (made while he was in the army) or he did he not find out until 2020? Sorry, I'm confused. I read Spare a while ago and can't remember the details.

diflasu · 25/04/2023 15:50

Serenster · 25/04/2023 14:33

I’s also mention that it’s been shown today that Harry has merrily revealed to the world in his own court action a confidential settlement agreement that Prince William entered into in 2020 in relation to phone hacking - an agreement Harry would not have been a party to, and in respect of which he would have not have had permission to reveal. He really is a piece of work.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65387663

According to Prince Harry's witness statement, the newspaper owners struck a "secret agreement" with officials at Buckingham Palace to put off legal claims from members of the Royal Family.
That alleged agreement, which has not been disclosed in court, had delayed Prince Harry from bringing his own case, his lawyers say.
Prince Harry says that he first became aware of the alleged deal in around 2012.
At that time, he learnt that royal staff were starting legal action for phone hacking - and he believed he and his brother had been personally targeted too.
When the brothers consulted officials or the Royal Family's top solicitor, he says they were told that they could not begin their own legal action.
"The rationale behind this was that a secret agreement had been reached between the institution and senior executives at News Group Newspapers, whereby members of the Royal Family would bring phone hacking claims only at the conclusion of [all other cases] and at that stage the claims would be admitted or settled with an apology," the statement said.

Harry using this deal as a reason why making a claim was delayed and thus why he isn't out of time to make a claim and NGN denies any deal existed.

The court documents say PW got a payout but the documents do not disclose the amount Prince William settled for and do not have the details of what it related to.

All seems very odd and not at all clear what has happened and when.

Prince William

Prince William privately settled phone-hacking claim, court told

The Prince of Wales received a "very large sum" from News Group Newspapers, court papers say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65387663

custardbear · 25/04/2023 16:14

@4plusthehound - I'd be more inclined to believe any news paper over Harry's account of anything!

Serenster · 25/04/2023 16:18

It does all seem very unclear. A “secret agreement” as outlined above sounds…well, lets go with quite unusual. 🤣 Tolling agreements are very common. Ones that don’t specify when they will expire, and which apparently include an admission of liability and agreed remedy on the part of one party…why not just settle the claims in the usual way?

So did H know about this settlement, (made while he was in the army) or he did he not find out until 2020?

If the settlement involves Harry and any compromise of his legal rights to bring a court case in any way, he will have had to have known about it, and consented to it. I mean, he could well have forgotten about it - a lot of time has passed. But he will have known about it at the time - he will have had to sign it personally.

MoChridhe · 25/04/2023 16:29

Well Willy is known for forging Harry's signature. But if Kensington Palace is refusing to comment then there is truth to Harry's statement. They could have said recollections may vary 😬

Novella4 · 25/04/2023 16:34

Why the secrecy?

Not suggesting Willaim has to reveal what the tapes uncovered ( clearly it wasn't ' did you pay the gas bill?') but where is the leadership ?
Not very'kingly' is it ?

michaelmacrae · 25/04/2023 16:39

Well Willy is known for forging Harry's signature

This occurred to me too.

Roussette · 25/04/2023 16:40

Novella4 · 25/04/2023 16:34

Why the secrecy?

Not suggesting Willaim has to reveal what the tapes uncovered ( clearly it wasn't ' did you pay the gas bill?') but where is the leadership ?
Not very'kingly' is it ?

Very secret. A lot involved in this hacking case had amounts awarded totalling millions. All we know is William's was 'a very large amount'. What's he done with it.

Donating it to a worthy charity would've been a good thing to do, he hardly needs the dosh does he...

custardbear · 25/04/2023 16:45

Roussette · 25/04/2023 15:46

People really don't understand what privacy is, do they, despite trying to explain it on these threads endlessly.

Least of all blabbermouth Harry!

ArcaneWireless · 25/04/2023 16:48

I do think it is a case of damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t.

I would hope he is coming to support his dad because he loves him - and is attending for that reason, despite his deep dislike of the ‘establishment’.

I would hope that it is that simple.

I would hate to see any negativity about it all come out in future programmes or books.

TaLooLaBell · 25/04/2023 16:53

Irisandillies · 24/04/2023 18:42

I genuinely believe harry is going as he wants to support his father and his father wants him there, so he is making rhe effort. He doesn’t wish to cut all ties. It’s just too fucking awkward now with the rest of them to hang around and socialise. So he will fuck off back to America to avoid the cringe factor.

but as much as I’m rather appalled and disdainful of the career choices him and his wife made in selling the royals out, I do think in this he is trying to do the right thing and it’s coming from a place of love. Avoiding it would be the easy way

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diflasu · 25/04/2023 16:55

I would hope he is coming to support his dad because he loves him - and is attending for that reason, despite his deep dislike of the ‘establishment’.

BBC were reporting that is was exactly his reasoning but cant remember if they said their source.

diflasu · 25/04/2023 17:14

Radio 4 is covering this agreement at moment.

Harry can't produce the agreement but as staff has changed there may have been one no-one knows.

It is all about Harry being out of time for legal processes as he past the 6 years about discovering the hacking or should have reasonably done so but also trying to work out why any agreement would be just William.

Expert they have on thinks he will be allowed to go on with court case.

Rhondaa · 25/04/2023 17:14

custardbear · 25/04/2023 16:45

Least of all blabbermouth Harry!

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I know! It is hilarious that a pp is suggesting we don't understand what privacy is. We do. It isn't telling the world your db is circumcised for starters.

diflasu · 25/04/2023 17:19

Apparently Harry has three trials against papers- one will be going ahead soon for definite other two are still being fought about.

Rhondaa · 25/04/2023 17:30

diflasu · 25/04/2023 17:19

Apparently Harry has three trials against papers- one will be going ahead soon for definite other two are still being fought about.

I wonder when they'll decide if the ANL case is going ahead, it's been ages since his jaunt over for the preliminary will they/won't they proceed hearing.

custardbear · 25/04/2023 18:37

diflasu · 25/04/2023 17:19

Apparently Harry has three trials against papers- one will be going ahead soon for definite other two are still being fought about.

It's hilarious that he's soooo bloody minded he's taking it to court ... so all laid bare for the world to see ... others settle and get their wedge, not ideal but at least it hurts the rag-paper in the wallet

Sudeko · 25/04/2023 18:40

It'll give him something useful to do. It is probably really boring for him out there. He is not a cool, internationally minded guy. He is so painfully posh British to the point of it being a handicap or basis for jokes out there. I doubt he feels like he fits in even if he says he feels home.

ArcaneWireless · 25/04/2023 19:05

diflasu · 25/04/2023 16:55

I would hope he is coming to support his dad because he loves him - and is attending for that reason, despite his deep dislike of the ‘establishment’.

BBC were reporting that is was exactly his reasoning but cant remember if they said their source.

I am glad to read that.

I still think it a shame that he will not be accompanied. I don’t suppose any of us will truly know the reason for Meghan not being in attendance but she will have her reasons.

I just think it a bit of a shame that she was supported by King Charles on arguably one of the most important days of her life and she isn’t there to support him on arguably one of the most important days of his life. Maybe Harry could do with the support too.

To me it is a shame but we are only outsiders looking in.

Roussette · 25/04/2023 19:45

Yes, we are only outsiders. And I'm not sure I'd want to be coming to a country that has a National newspaper put out 44 articles about mostly me (and my husband) in a 24 hour period ... all unpleasant. That was about 10 days ago when I'd barely been seen for months.

If that were me, I wouldn't dream of coming. And my MH would be rock bottom to be honest, and I'd rather cuddle my children and stay at home.

Yes, she isn't perfect, yes she hasn't helped herself at times. But no-one deserves that sort of vile media.

skullbabe · 25/04/2023 19:56

They made the right decision - due to the significant interest in her the focus would have been on everything she did during her stay - where she sat, who she spoke to, if her and her husband held hands, her singing, her clothes, her tiara, her shoes, her smile, her straight face, the children, speculation about microphones - as opposed to the actual reason for the occasion - the coronation of King Charles. And she would have been blamed for the attention - so this was the right choice.