Why is Harry coming to the coronation at all?

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He's apparently not going to see his father and he's just flying in an out, leaving immediately after the ceremony to rush back to California. I know it's nice to be at your kid's birthday party, but FFS this is his father's coronation, a day he's been waiting for his whole life. So Harry is flying all the way over here, no doubt burning up the planet on a fucking private jet, and all for what? To be seen to be there? What for? What a waste of time. If he's not even going to celebrate with his family I don't know why he doesn't just stay in California, since that's clearly where he'd rather be. I don't understand why he's coming at all.

He won't have an inheritance - the Parker Bowles will have all of that ear marked I am sure!

They’ll technically get nothing either.

William will inherit everything. Charles will either gift things in his lifetime or William will gift on his behalf later.

Its how the royals work.

Otherwise vast sums of IHT would be owed.

He won't have an inheritance - the Parker Bowles will have all of that ear marked I am sure!

They've got their feet well and truly under the table now.

The book is a brilliant, insightful and daming critique of the tabloid media culture in the UK.

That same media defined the book as a kiss 'n tell for a reason.

You are being played.

They want you frothing about the poor little rich guy rather than thinking about the power these papers have, and the very real problem they present for democratic country.

There is not actually that much about the family in it.

the most popular Princess of the modern world, Queen of our Hearts, a strong woman who should have had the chance to change the world - she must have been seen as a threat.

The poster was making a reference to Diana.

He's coming because there's a money pit house and a three book treadmill to service.

Why can't he bring Archie and Lilibet, seems a bit cruel that they miss out on such an occasion? I am sure they will question this when older. A 4 year olds party can be any old day, but the Kings Coronation is a unique, once in a lifetime experience. I am no Monarchist, but I wouldn't deny my children that experience if it was on offer

What is good parenting? I sometimes read posts on Mumsnet andI am amazed how parents are belittled for reprimanding children. How do you teach the kids discipline, values and build character. I see comments where if you are trying to teach your kids the above values through love, talks, rules or in the end punishment, you are termed as harsh. And if you are not trying to teach them the above, you are termed as a careless parent. Why do parents and parenting style have to be judged so much. We as parents are anyways dealing with too much, we are trying to make sure the house is running, there is food on the plate, dealing with the tantrums, demands of the children, being constantly judged by everyone around, being the biggest villain in our children's life especially teenagers, being always doubtful whether our behaviour is right or wrong, the list doesn't end. People please be nice to each other, that is the least we can do. We parents are humans too and can falter sometimes. We are learning everyday to be a good parent, learning from success and mistakes. Let's not make it more difficult for each other than it is already is. Be nice.

Please ignore this post, wrong forum.

Still baffles me how people care about this.

Who actually gives a F if he's here? On his own? With Megan? You're all obsessed.

It's not just "nonsense". It is modern British history in the making similar to the abdication which made Harry's great grandfather King. Of course people are going to be interested.

Harry and Meghan have accused/implied that the royal family were racist, caused Meghan to nearly kill herself, they have accused the family of being unsupportive, of leaking against them to the media, publicly stated that the family are trapped in the institution and it's the gray men behind the scenes who are running the show, made to feel second best behind the Wales and so on. With all these allegations and accusations, why would Harry want to go and show up to the coronation even if it was his father who was being crowned? The coronation represents the royal institution, the one he blames for all the trauma that he and Meghan have suffered from. Someone who has principles would never show up for such a celebration. But then again, it's clear that to Harry, it's not the monarchy itself that is the issue, it's his place/rank in it.

But then again, it's clear that to Harry, it's not the monarchy itself that is the issue, it's his place/rank in it.

I do not get that from him at all. He comes across as a team player, a monarchist, a person who knows the rules and accepts them.

If it were otherwise he could never have functioned in the army - they are not know for their individualisim!

Lol have you even read his book? Have you not seen his interviews and everything else that's happened in the last few years? He and his wife have been accused of bullying, have caused tension and discord within the family, and they have spoken out about how unfair the system was to them because they have to follow the hierarchy of being second to the Wales. A team player would teach his wife the rules the royal institution, he would accept that his role is to be a supporter to the monarch or the future monarch, and he wouldn't leave just because he didn't get the half in half out role he wanted. Princess Anne, Prince Edward and Sophie are team players. As for being in the army, there was a news report that came out that he was allowed to leave his army base when no one else was allowed to as they were conducting drug testing. Harry got special treatment even in the army, the rules were bent coz he was royalty. That's not what I would consider being a team player.

I did read the book.

To me it was a damning critique of the British tabloid press. An excellent one at that. His point was well made and backed up. Just my opinion.

He and his wife have indeed been accused of many things. But until backed up they remain simply that...accusations.

I would need a link or two for me to believe that he was allowed leave the army base to avoid a drug test. Seems unlikely the army would allow someone to hang around weapons and ammunitions while on drugs.

why would Harry want to go and show up to the coronation even if it was his father who was being crowned?

You've answered your own question. It's his father.
Families are complicated. His father wants him there. He wants to be there because it's his father. That's all you really need to know.

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I agree with your take on it. And I've read the book too

It's pretty laughable to say that Harry and meghans lies and distortions of the truth haven't been backed up by evidence. Harry himself has (as diplomatically as he could) called Meghan out in her lie in the Oprah interview, when she called the family racist. One of many proven and provable lies.

Harry can't get his facts straight in his own memoir. I suppose his excuse would be all the drugs?

Sometimes people don't really want to go to something but to and show their faces anyway just because it's the done thing. I really couldn't be bothered to go to my cousin's wedding recently, but I showed my face anyway and just left a bit earlier with the excuse of DC.

Why would you do that if you didn't want to go though? I guess that is the question here re Harry's motivation?

''I do not get that from him at all. He comes across as a team player, a monarchist, a person who knows the rules and accepts them'

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You are joking right?

'I guess that is the question here re Harry's motivation?'

He needs to stay relevant, he needs the headlines even though he also hates the headlines. He is just a mass of contradictions. If he wanted to support his df he wouldn't have written all that crap about Camilla and all the media blabbing. He is Thomas Markle II.

Thing with Harry is, everyone bends over backwards to make allowances for him, but he reveals himself time and again as an arsehole

he needs the headlines he doesn’t need to come to the coronation for headlines, they talk about them even when not seen for months on end. There would be headlines if he didn’t come. What the anti-Harry crew out there in the world just can’t stand, even though they support the idea of monarchy, is that Harry is always going to be a member and that is always going to be his father, whether he performs for the masses as directed, or not. They hate that. They only support the ones who do as they’re told and withstand repulsive tabloid media and a hypocritical public’s endless judgements.

I’ve read the book but not seen the Netflix programs.

He may be a monarchist but he came across as a spoilt child in parts. I don’t think he came across as much of team player. It’s clear to me though that he loves his father & imo is jealous of William.

Just because it's something important to somebody in the family. I would for most good friends or any family member.
I heard this quote once, not quite the same but along the same lines "a good friend is somebody who doesn't want to be there but is anyway" just means that sometimes you can't be bothered or it's not your thing, but you know it's important to them so show your support and turn up.
Or a sense of obligation even. People even do this with parents who have literally abused or neglected them sometimes, so for his complaints on his father which are less than that, I'm sure he would too?

It could be that. Or could be so he doesn't look bad. It could be so he doesn't cut all ties as it would send a very clear message if he didn't go at all. I suppose, away from the headlines, they're still family, so he will still go.