Why is Harry coming to the coronation at all?

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He's apparently not going to see his father and he's just flying in an out, leaving immediately after the ceremony to rush back to California. I know it's nice to be at your kid's birthday party, but FFS this is his father's coronation, a day he's been waiting for his whole life. So Harry is flying all the way over here, no doubt burning up the planet on a fucking private jet, and all for what? To be seen to be there? What for? What a waste of time. If he's not even going to celebrate with his family I don't know why he doesn't just stay in California, since that's clearly where he'd rather be. I don't understand why he's coming at all.

@Roussette so you're saying that whatever private info/accusations against his family that harry’s lawyers came up with has nothing to do with Harry? He has no agency whatsoever even though he's nearly 40 years old? So the nazi costume was also William and kate’s fault, the staff feeling bullied/crying was because of the media/palace, Meghan not knowing the rules, of her not getting psychological help/support was the fault of the royal family/institution. It's never ever the sussexes fault? I bet if harry ever accused/blames william’s kids of something, that would be the kids fault too because poor innocent harry continues to be a victim in all this. Lol. Even his own brother accepting a cash settlement to avoid his personal correspondence being discussed in a court case is now meant to show him as a horrible abuser who once again victimized Harry by supposedly colliding with the media?Unbelievable.

@MamoruHisaishi

I worry that this thread is not healthy for you.

Seriously.

If you know them personally- fair enough.

if you are at work - fair enough

But if you area “civilian” then it seems to have gotten under your skin

The article discusses an incident that named direct sources, who were Harry’s work colleagues, that harry was indeed allowed to leave the army base when no one else was allowed to as a drug test was being conducted at the time. The article stated the facts, it clarified it didn't intend to suggest that Harry was on drugs or that he deliberately avoided the drug test.

I think you should worry about yourself? What's wrong if I comment on this thread? I'm not always on here anyway. Just coz I think Harry is a nasty hypocrite is somehow cause for concern? Lol

Mamoru,

The article was written this year about something that may have happened in 2011. The heading conveys that Harry left before a drug tests -- this implied, to my mind, that harry left in order to avoid a drugs test (did others read it that way?) - but made sure in the depths of the article that they were not saying he was taking drugs. So they could not be sued for telling lies.

Newspapers know that they have to get the info they want to convey out in the first five paragraphs. They know that many people just read the first five paragraphs to get the gist of the story and then move on-- so they grab the attention early.. The stuff that follows the first five paragraphs is what they consider the least important bits. In the old days, before the internet, it was also because of column size. They had to be prepared to cut off an article early if there was suddenly something else of interest to print. So, important stuff first, stuff not integral to the story last. In this story they waited until the seventh paragraph to add the disclaimer in. And more and more, media use this form of article structure to eventually tell the truth but know most people don't read that far or that closely.

The paragraphs may each be only sentences in the tabloid style, but it works the same.

You can read my post and what I am saying is far better than your message which is...
If Harry hasn't denied something, that means it's true! The media makes up, amplifies lies, eaggerates and twists... and if he doesn't deny, it's true?!

Yeah... rightio....

Why you have to bring little children into it, I don't know. Stop that. It's not right.

p.s. Nowhere have I called William a 'horrible abuser'. Nor has anyone else. They are questioning the court case and William's payout. Stop making stuff up. It does you no favours whatsoever.

The article stated the facts, it clarified it didn't intend to suggest that Harry was on drugs or that he deliberately avoided the drug test.

Why bring it up repeatedly then?

Again. Unfair.

@Morestrangerthings

Well said, I wish I could put it as well as you. Sometimes the headlines are enough to grab the public and then they go off and believe something without looking at the facts. It's the modus operandi of the gutter press.

@Roussette

I've thought the same of you. How well you post.

Earlier, I think on this thread, someone linked to a very good article in Byline Times. I've forgotten the header, but since then I've read 2 more articles on there, "A great Power for Evil," and "Everything, everywhere, all at once," both good articles also which examine the media, and also social media.

If there's somebody in the British army - anybody, who may be on drugs and is allowed to sneak out to avoid being found out then it's in the public's interest to know this - prince or not

... and H&M ....just off the top of my head pictures of paparazzi hounding them on their trailer ... oh wait ... that was Katie Price 🙄

You need to come on the thread "The Press & the Royals, a discussion"

It's been very informative and interesting and those articles would be looked at carefully on the thread. (Unfortunately, it's had a bit of a temporary derailment, but I am sure it will soon be back on track)

Having dumped yet more shit on his Pa with accusations Charles vetoed open legal action agains the press, god alone knows.

🙄

We all post very well just because there are different opinions doesn't mean people don't 'post very well'.

Yes the Netflix Reality Show was a lovely example of 'gutter press' using any old clip to back up their shaky story.

Thanks for dissing my compliment, I don't get many!

If @Morestrangerthings wants to think that, let her lol

The Netflix series was making a larger point about press intrusion and harassment of women in the public eye, which is when that footage was placed. They also made other points on issues such as colonisation. Not everything was specifically about just them, if you watched the entire series.

Actually some people are more articulate than others.

Well use actual footage then, not made up crap otherwise they are no different to the Evil British Media and it made the reality show all a bit silly. Well sillier than it would have been with credible facts.

Well use actual footage then

They did. They used footage of an actual scene of an actual female celebrity and played it as they spoke of press behaviour to public figures. What don’t you get about that?

Did you watch it Janie? Or just read what someone else wrote about it?

God no. I don't watch Netflix crap. I couldn't sadly avoid the many, many clips on the news and various other programmes. All thoroughly analysed and discussions around it so please don't bleat that it was taken out of context or misrepresented.

I don’t ‘bleat’, let’s not get deliberately provocative with insulting language. If you didn’t watch it then you aren’t aware that the footage was used by the documentary makers to illustrate their wider points about press intrusion and that was a point not just made about H & M but about everyone in the public eye, particularly the misogyny directed at women. So your earlier comment is based on misrepresentations and gossip, not fact.

‘Any old clip’, no it was a clip representing how media objectify and target women disproportionately. Men are not subjected to the same objectification. You really should watch something before criticising it.

@Janiie - there were some hum dingers on the Netflix .. the funniest I recall was H&M in the back of a car, all panicky (fake!), working out the back window and hand-holdy because there was a moped behind them ... they were all 😱 oh god the press following is ... when it was just a moped travelling behind them ... not a raft of paps .. a moped 🙄 ... I'm sure the car they were in could have put their foot down and left the moped in a cloud of dust