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Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen

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RYGO · 17/04/2023 12:53

"Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen because she had to stay away from Balmoral to ensure Harry's wife couldn't come, royal author claims"

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen | Daily Mail Online

According to book from Robert Jobson. Charles doesn't come of good in this book....

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen

Kate, 41, remained in Windsor to look after her children while the immediate family headed to be at the late monarch's bedside - says Robert Jobson in new book, Our King.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11981061/Kate-resents-not-having-final-moment-say-goodbye-Queen.html

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Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:21

You think you know her but you don't.

Right back at you. I’m a biracial woman with a DH who lost his mother as a child and the rest of his family to a cult. I know a little bit about what it is to be in her situation, on a significantly smaller scale. Whatever she has done, doesn’t deserve the gross things written about her here, most of it total fantasy.

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:23

Initially via inheritances from the monarchy which we, the taxpayer fund
Diana’s inheritance left to her children wasn’t from us.

Roussette · 18/04/2023 13:24

Total fantasy yes. But it gives the anti H&M posters something to get incensed, angry and worked up about when it's just a load of tripe manufactured by the DM like they always do

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 13:25

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:21

You think you know her but you don't.

Right back at you. I’m a biracial woman with a DH who lost his mother as a child and the rest of his family to a cult. I know a little bit about what it is to be in her situation, on a significantly smaller scale. Whatever she has done, doesn’t deserve the gross things written about her here, most of it total fantasy.

She doesn't deserve much of it, I even relate to some of it myself but what has that got to do with somebody's right to say 'X doesn't want you there on her death bed. We don't want to you to be there while our mum is dying because we all feel that you have disrespected her and we don't feel comfortable in your presence'?
Does that fact that she is not white mean that they have to allow her in?

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 13:25

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:21

You think you know her but you don't.

Right back at you. I’m a biracial woman with a DH who lost his mother as a child and the rest of his family to a cult. I know a little bit about what it is to be in her situation, on a significantly smaller scale. Whatever she has done, doesn’t deserve the gross things written about her here, most of it total fantasy.

What gross things (on this thread)?

She's been divisive? Is that 'gross'? There are plenty of people who would say she's been divisive in a good way, others would say in a negative way.

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 13:27

@mixedrecycling - thank you 😀😀😀! She is called Heather, and will be 25 this May 😱😱😱. She's a very sweet, cuddly mare who loves to stand and have a pamper session 😍😍😍.

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 13:28

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 13:27

@mixedrecycling - thank you 😀😀😀! She is called Heather, and will be 25 this May 😱😱😱. She's a very sweet, cuddly mare who loves to stand and have a pamper session 😍😍😍.

Would love to have a Heather to pamper! I do have a DDog who likes to have a snuggle, but rode a lot as a child and miss horses!

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 13:29

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 13:28

Would love to have a Heather to pamper! I do have a DDog who likes to have a snuggle, but rode a lot as a child and miss horses!

There is something about having a much bigger animal just melt against you!

Creepyrosemary · 18/04/2023 13:32

I don't know anyone who would resent not saying goodbye to their husbands 90-something old granny. Surely with a granny at that age you already said a mental goodbye and besides, it's not her own family. I don't believe it tbh.

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 13:33

@mixedrecycling - definitely! I've got a cat called Charlie too, who is also a right snuggle bug 😍😍😍.

Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen
gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 13:44

Creepyrosemary · 18/04/2023 13:32

I don't know anyone who would resent not saying goodbye to their husbands 90-something old granny. Surely with a granny at that age you already said a mental goodbye and besides, it's not her own family. I don't believe it tbh.

Im not saying its true because we know what the press are like but lets be honest this wasn't just the passing of someone's husbands 96 year old gran was it! It was a historical moment, the passing of arguably one of the most famous monarchs of all time and the creation of another monarch!

jeffgoldblum · 18/04/2023 13:45

@StephieSlade , that's a lovely photo of your cat! , but I'm worried that you are very recognisable in the photo and could put you irl, I'd advise getting taken off ❤️

Samcro · 18/04/2023 14:48

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 13:01

People are allowed to decide whom they want around them in their own house you know. The family were perfectly entitled to exclude whoever they wanted and they had good reason in this case. I wonder if some of the people on this thread let people barge into their homes uninvited because they seem to thing it is okay here. Death is an unpleasant and unhygienic process, it's not like a film set death which is how Meghan would have spun it for money.

yet another post full of made up stuff.
the thread is about made up stuff about how Kate is supposed to have felt, people rightly have not believed that, yet they will make up and belive anything about Meghan,

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 14:59

Samcro · 18/04/2023 14:48

yet another post full of made up stuff.
the thread is about made up stuff about how Kate is supposed to have felt, people rightly have not believed that, yet they will make up and belive anything about Meghan,

So you believe that people should be allowed to barge into other people's houses uninvited and that death is a pleasant and hygienic process like on a film set. Do you believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy? 😁

AskMeMore · 18/04/2023 15:09

@Sudeko Not all deaths are hard. I have seen a few people dying, including one who just stopped breathing like in films.

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 15:22

Samcro · 18/04/2023 14:48

yet another post full of made up stuff.
the thread is about made up stuff about how Kate is supposed to have felt, people rightly have not believed that, yet they will make up and belive anything about Meghan,

Yes @samcro exactly. Nobody believes this made up crap about Kates feelings but they’re completely making up crap about meghans intentions and what everyone else feels. Also, I know the woman just died but surely it’s her house and a family retreat, not Charles house at the time. Meghan is in their family now whether they like it or not. Harry has lost a lot. I don’t think it’s bratty or evil of him to want the support of his wife in this circumstance.

orangedalmatian · 18/04/2023 15:55

Harry has gained more than he lost. He has a wife and family, a lovely home and ventures which (I hope) depend on something other than slagging off his family. He has plenty of money. He never wanted to be in the royal family and was looking for an out which Meghan gave him. Never wanted press attention (although that's what he's got due to him and his wife's decisions). He's even had recent conversations with his father, so may be able to have a father son relationship, albeit from a distance.

Samcro · 18/04/2023 15:56

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 14:59

So you believe that people should be allowed to barge into other people's houses uninvited and that death is a pleasant and hygienic process like on a film set. Do you believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy? 😁

no because I don't belive everything I read. this makes Kate sound horrid and Meghan too. yet none of it happened.

as I said before "maybe" Meghan was going to travel with Harry to support him."maybe" the idea that she expected to be a the deathbed is too bizarre to be true.

AskMeMore · 18/04/2023 16:02

I agree with that dalmation.
I think it is strange that in real life people expect a man to put his wife and children before his father and brother. But when it comes to Harry so many seem to want him to abandon his wife and children and do what his father and brother want.
It is crazy. Any decent man puts his wife and children first.

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 16:04

Any decent man puts his wife and children first.

^^ yes and every poster would expect that themselves.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 18/04/2023 16:09

And the writer knows what Catherine was thinking how????

It is made up bollocks. It isn't even good fiction. It is bullshit designed to titillate the hard of thinking.

4plusthehound · 18/04/2023 17:13

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 10:31

It is extremely common to draft up these documents well in advance along with a living will and POA documents, not just for kings and queens but for many commoners, specifying in great detail what their deathbed scene should look like and who could be present, who should definitely not be present.
The queen was never normally at Balmoral in the autumn. She knew from her physician that the end was drawing close and she would have chosen to return there to die. I'm sure some book will come out sooner or later confirming this obvious information.
It is certain that those were the queen's stated wishes. If it had been up to any of the others, they would not have had any authority to come together to decide to keep one person away.
It was poor form to get your mouthpiece journalist to tweet untrue things when a monarch is dying which you already know contradicts their wishes. But then again, they would always say that it was then men in grey suits influencing the queen, not possible that she had her own reservations.

It is certain that those were the queen's stated wishes

Do you want to tell us who you are?

Making the abouve statement with such condidence would imply you have seen the document or were there when it was drafted...

cornfleurs · 18/04/2023 17:24

Given the meticulous preparations that were made for HMQ's death (Operation London Bridge et al) I'd say it is an absolute given that the Queen would have been consulted carefully about her wishes for visitors to her deathbed and that these wishes would have been assiduously observed.

I also suspect that HMQ was good at putting on a pleasant, diplomatic front for Harry on their phone/skype calls, while making firmer decisions behind his back. Harry tended to blame the grey men because he couldn't believe that Granny wouldn't put his feelings first.

I've witnessed a similar dynamic with an elderly family member who tells people what they want to hear for a quiet life - but makes their own arrangements on the quiet. I suspect it's fairly common.

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 17:48

Just to confirm, nobody believes the drivel about Kate feeling offended even though the thread originally began along those lines.

However, people must be soft if they can come up with a single credible explanation for why any of the royal family (excluding Harry) would want Meghan anywhere near their deathbed. They probably all have that clause added into their death wishes document.

tatalan · 18/04/2023 18:10

@Sudeko lol how powerful is Meghan, got them so pressed and bitter that she'll potentially be appearing in death wish documents.

Good on her for skipping the coronation.