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Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen

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RYGO · 17/04/2023 12:53

"Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen because she had to stay away from Balmoral to ensure Harry's wife couldn't come, royal author claims"

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen | Daily Mail Online

According to book from Robert Jobson. Charles doesn't come of good in this book....

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen

Kate, 41, remained in Windsor to look after her children while the immediate family headed to be at the late monarch's bedside - says Robert Jobson in new book, Our King.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11981061/Kate-resents-not-having-final-moment-say-goodbye-Queen.html

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purpledalmation · 18/04/2023 11:42

I suppose you could say harry and meghans mansion was paid for by us from the inheritances they would never have got if we didn't have a monarchy we pay for, and if that monarchy didn't exist, they couple wouldn't been able to merche them relentlessly

Boudicasbeard · 18/04/2023 11:42

@Whaeanui

Have you considered that you only have Harry’s version of events? You have very little idea what was said to who and why, beyond what he has shared.

I would point out that even the best of people often edit anecdotes to make themselves look better.

The objective truth is that the jet waited for him and that other members of his family missed saying goodbye because he made them wait. The reason is moot. From any viewpoint it was quite a self centred thing to do.

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 11:43

@Saschka you cannot ban a family member from visiting a dying parent/ grandparent! Especially if they are then likely to use it against you in the national press!! You can however make a blanket rule that only immediate or blood family members can be there!

purpledalmation · 18/04/2023 11:44

@Saschka its an anti meghan piece, and as a by product an anti kate piece, and as such just media shit throwing. Just mysoginistic really

Boudicasbeard · 18/04/2023 11:46

@gettingoldisshit

I would suspect (and this is supposition so not based on fact) that they were worried about possible filming/ recording. M&H had already asked and been denied about recording for their Netflix show in Britain. I do wonder what those conversations entailed.

Also, we have no idea how the late queen felt about her beyond the PR pieces put out by ‘friends’ of the Sussexs. It is perfectly possible Charles was respecting a request from
his mother for her not the be present.

We have no idea what actually went on.

Saschka · 18/04/2023 11:50

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 11:43

@Saschka you cannot ban a family member from visiting a dying parent/ grandparent! Especially if they are then likely to use it against you in the national press!! You can however make a blanket rule that only immediate or blood family members can be there!

There’s either a blanket “no wives” rule, or Kate was already not planning to go (by far the most likely IMO). In either case Kate has nothing to be pissed off with Meghan about.

Or this rule was created solely to exclude Meghan, in which case could KC really not put up with saying “hi” to her for five minutes, for the greater good?

And if he really can’t manage that, he needed to just say “sorry Harry, given what’s gone on, it’s just you invited”, and let the chips fall where they may.

Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 11:55

There is obviously a lot of bad feeling. So it was a wise decision not to have all of them at the Queen's deathbed. Who wants even more drama when emotions are running high.

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 12:02

Or this rule was created solely to exclude Meghan, in which case could KC really not put up with saying “hi” to her for five minutes, for the greater good?
@Saschka why the hell should a child grieving their parent have to put up with anyone they don't wish to see in that situation? I most certainly wouldn't and I don't have a family member who could be selling my mothers death to Netflix Hmm

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/04/2023 12:07

Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 11:02

Apparently Sarah got herself into £4m worth of debt which is a lot of money now but was even more over 20 years ago. She wanted to live like a royal. With secretaries and other staff. So goodness knows what Meghan and Harry's living expenses are. They must be astronomical.

It's not your money. They are not funded by the public.

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 12:08

@Saschkawhy the hell should a child grieving their parent have to put up with anyone they don't wish to see in that situation? I most certainly wouldn't and I don't have a family member who could be selling my mothers death to Netflix

Exactly.

Given the state of relationships at that point, why should Charles have had to deal with someone so divisive?

Saschka · 18/04/2023 12:08

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 12:02

Or this rule was created solely to exclude Meghan, in which case could KC really not put up with saying “hi” to her for five minutes, for the greater good?
@Saschka why the hell should a child grieving their parent have to put up with anyone they don't wish to see in that situation? I most certainly wouldn't and I don't have a family member who could be selling my mothers death to Netflix Hmm

“And if he really can’t manage that, he needed to just say “sorry Harry, given what’s gone on, it’s just you invited”, and let the chips fall where they may.”

Did you have trouble reading my full post? It was only 3 paras.

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 12:13

@Saschka and have harry go crying to Netflix about not being allowed to visit his dying grandmother? Seriously!

Saschka · 18/04/2023 12:15

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 12:13

@Saschka and have harry go crying to Netflix about not being allowed to visit his dying grandmother? Seriously!

Instead we have people crying to the papers that KC changed the rules to exclude Meghan, and that meant poor innocent Kate was kept out too. Is that honestly better?

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 12:27

Boudicasbeard · 18/04/2023 11:42

@Whaeanui

Have you considered that you only have Harry’s version of events? You have very little idea what was said to who and why, beyond what he has shared.

I would point out that even the best of people often edit anecdotes to make themselves look better.

The objective truth is that the jet waited for him and that other members of his family missed saying goodbye because he made them wait. The reason is moot. From any viewpoint it was quite a self centred thing to do.

Of course, and their version is also quite possibly what some media have repeated. Who knows. But either way, they did not miss seeing the Queen before she passed because of Harry. Timings indicate that. Regardless also, if they had of, they missed it because they weren’t willing to allow Harry support that he wrongly or rightly felt he needed or perhaps even just assumed would happen. A single phone call between him and his father didn’t mean anyone else missed seeing her before she passed. If they’re happy to share a plane with Andrew, it really isn’t too much to ask that either Harry or Harry and his wife be allowed to go too. That’s my opinion based on my family.

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 12:33

Saschka · 18/04/2023 12:15

Instead we have people crying to the papers that KC changed the rules to exclude Meghan, and that meant poor innocent Kate was kept out too. Is that honestly better?

Exactly. Christ what kind of Dad takes this opportunity to be so petty. The same man who also sold his own story about his upbringing too.

I find it odd Charles is being defended for not being able to stand Meghan for a few minutes. He didn’t seem to care at all about being connected to pedophile Peter Ball, after he was cautioned by police when 7 boys came forward. Then Charles wrote to a judge on his behalf. Seems awfully forgiving in that circumstance. To the point he let him live in one of his properties afterwards too. Similarly with his brother who he will house and pay for despite his links to child sex abusers and allegations, and despite Andrew not being able to do a jot of work for that support. I mean apparently a Netflix show is his line. Not child abuse. And he is defended for this.

Saschka · 18/04/2023 12:51

@Whaeanui this is what makes me think the whole story is made up - of course the Royals could have plastered on a smile if they needed to (because they have done, several times since). Balmoral is big enough that Charles wouldn’t have been sitting next to Meghan on a sofa all afternoon if he didn’t want to be.

It just baffles me that people think this is an anti-Meghan story, when it paints the palace in such an unflattering and petty light. God knows who benefits, aside from the newspapers.

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 12:55

Hi, just using this thread to apologise. It was me who started the other thread about King Charles foraging for mushrooms to take his mind off the Queen's imminent death 🙈🙈🙈. I'd seen the article first thing in the morning before I set off for the stables, and decided to post it wanting other peoples opinions, as I'd seen some really nasty comments about it on twitter. However, we don't have any internet connection down the yard, and I didn't get home until after midday as I discovered that Heather, my horse was lame (turned out to be an abscess on her fetlock). By the time I got home, the thread had already been pulled. Sorry, my intention was to reply to people's posts once I had got home, and I hadn't intended the thread to become all out war 😔🙈😔🙈.

Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen
Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen
Sudeko · 18/04/2023 13:01

People are allowed to decide whom they want around them in their own house you know. The family were perfectly entitled to exclude whoever they wanted and they had good reason in this case. I wonder if some of the people on this thread let people barge into their homes uninvited because they seem to thing it is okay here. Death is an unpleasant and unhygienic process, it's not like a film set death which is how Meghan would have spun it for money.

purpledalmation · 18/04/2023 13:06

@StephieSlade It got ridiculous so its just as well you didn't see it! I asked for it to be pulled, and I'm sure others did too

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:08

it's not like a film set death which is how Meghan would have spun it for money.

Oh for gods sake. Seriously the lengths people go to on this board to demonise this woman. She was never going to do that.

Roussette · 18/04/2023 13:09

gettingoldisshit · 18/04/2023 09:52

@Roussette yes i know exactly what the thread is about! No one actually knows if megan wanted to go or not but even if she didn't she was still the reason that supposedly kate couldn't go! Because megans spoiled, manchild husband was busy demanding she be allowed to go and because of her past behaviour the RF didn't want her there clearly!

That is honestly all in your head

purpledalmation · 18/04/2023 13:13

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/04/2023 12:07

It's not your money. They are not funded by the public.

Well actually they are. Initially via inheritances from the monarchy which we, the taxpayer fund. Then they made their dirty millions from selling 'dirty linen' stories to huge conglomerates. If the RF family had been Joe Bloggs living in a 3 bed semi, netflix etc would not have been interested. It was selling their royal relatives down the river, who , by the way, we the taxpayer fund. Did I mention the taxpayers there?

Sudeko · 18/04/2023 13:14

Whaeanui · 18/04/2023 13:08

it's not like a film set death which is how Meghan would have spun it for money.

Oh for gods sake. Seriously the lengths people go to on this board to demonise this woman. She was never going to do that.

You think you know her but you don't. I'm not one of the posters who demonize her regularly. I just think you draw the line when someone is drawing their last breath without having to prepare a special speech to explain your reasoning so that the excluded person doesn't feel offended. It was really selfish (but not surprising) of Harry to make the queen's death about Meghan and her victimhood when it shouldn't have been about anything else other than the queen's death.
Are you saying that you would you like to see all the people whom you have cut out of your life staring over you while you are still alive and aware but slipping away in your worst state covered in sweat and muck? If they don't get along with you then they aren't going to be nice about it afterwards. are they?

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 13:17

@purpledalmation - thank you 😀😀! Felt like a right idiot 🙈🙈🙈. I personally felt that it wasn't fair that people were criticising King Charles on Twitter and Facebook about a decision that he made when he would have already been very upset 🙈🙈.

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 13:20

StephieSlade · 18/04/2023 12:55

Hi, just using this thread to apologise. It was me who started the other thread about King Charles foraging for mushrooms to take his mind off the Queen's imminent death 🙈🙈🙈. I'd seen the article first thing in the morning before I set off for the stables, and decided to post it wanting other peoples opinions, as I'd seen some really nasty comments about it on twitter. However, we don't have any internet connection down the yard, and I didn't get home until after midday as I discovered that Heather, my horse was lame (turned out to be an abscess on her fetlock). By the time I got home, the thread had already been pulled. Sorry, my intention was to reply to people's posts once I had got home, and I hadn't intended the thread to become all out war 😔🙈😔🙈.

She's lovely! Very envious...!

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