Harry but not Meghan

[lipstickwoman]

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

So did Meghan. She got all that Kate got plus some.

Her point was that, she had an added layer of racism on top.

@purpledalmation has any other Royal woman had disgusting memes circulated about her baby?
In Archies case comparing him to a monkey. Extremely racist.
I have never seen a disgusting meme about George as a baby or about William as a baby.

Well it isn’t. It is not the same as racism.

I didn’t say it was - I said it was minimising what Kate did experience. Which you said no-one, and certainly not H&M was doing..

No. Thomas was gossiping to the press and not being open about it to Meghan - just before the wedding. It upset her and upset Harry. It would me as well if my dad did that.

Aah, so you missed the part where Harry eventually had to go out of his own way to find her help because the palace was refusing, then.

I mean Clarkson just wrote about her being paraded in the street having shit thrown at her. Let’s not pretend she didn’t get the sexual harassment too.

The point is, racism is very different. I have been cat called etc on the street. It was nothing compared to a stranger shouting racist abuse at my mother and I. Trust me on this.

The insults to Kate were largely class based. The aristocracy and the royal family seem disgustingly snobbish.
Kate is rumoured to still not be accepted by most of the aristocracy.

I said it was minimising what Kate did experience.

I don’t think it did. She made a point of saying that is awful and she can’t imagine what that is like. But racism is different. Just saying that isn’t minimising.

She got all that Kate got plus some

Phone messages hacked 100plus times? Upskirted? Had slurs shouted at her in public to get her to react for a photo? Physically harassed with crowds of papparazzi surrounding her when she left the house? Driven out of her job because of the press attention? Must have missed that…

What they both got was endless clickbait headlines and show-horning them into completely unrelated stories to attract readers/clicks. And lots of online abuse too.

This

Purpledalmation has had links posted in the past showing what she is saying is not true. She obviously just wants to throw shit at Harry and Meghan no matter what the facts are.

No she wasn't !

She acknowledged how bad it was, but was pointing out the added layer or racism she had to endure on top of what KM got.

Unless you are saying that name calling is the same as racism.

Unless you are saying that name calling is the same as racism.

No, for the third time I am saying that name calling is not the extent of what Kate experienced, as Meghan implied.

I totally agree. Even if my children committed murder I would express sorrow for the loved ones affected by the death and then no comment all the way.
I really do not understand parents who behaving shittily about their own children.

Well he was, there was an article written in a US gossip mag that he disputed.

That isn't the point. Again folk should either agree with telling tales to the media or not. You can't say oh yes I agree with it but only if I'm on their side.

Being upskirted is a bit more than name calling.

You could just as easily say having your privacy invaded and topless photos taken isn't the same as racism, or having photos taken up your skirt isn't the same as racism, or having a photo taken of your bare breast isn't the same as racism - but instead you chose to minimise their experiences by comparing it to name calling.

Social media is a cesspit. I don't think it was so prevalent 10 years ago. Filled with nut jobs and racist misogynistic lunatics. Nutters have always existed Fortunately for us they had no platform. I'm with harry on reform but it's like American gun laws. Genie well and truly out of the bottle unfortunately

At the end of the day no one really knows what has happened . Have H and M done this to make money? Did they do it because they were treated badly and want to tell their side? We don't really know, I would imagine the truth is somewhere in the middle

• By focusing on the name calling

The Netflix series gave more time to it than the Oprah thing, which I wouldn’t expect them to devote to naming all the things Kate endured. It’s an example. I wouldn’t think mentioning her bare breasts then would have gone down well. Once again, the sexual harassment side of things was endured by all the women marrying in, including Meghan.

H&M were also hacked / followed and hounded in their houses. Hackled for attention. Physically hounded when she left her house. Her job also had to give her security .

She has also got online abuse and shoe horned into unrelated stories, most of them quite serious from the SM about terrorists/warlords etc.

But crucially, on top of everything, she had to endure racism.

PS: KM was not 'upskirted', no one can get that close. She did not weight down the herms of her dress as per HMQE request.

Instead of arguing on who got it worse, let's just agree that the behaviour of the media is just disgusting and that no one should ever have to go though this

While I generally agree with that @Nono22972 I think to dismiss racism as like everything else suffered by others was wrong of the institution and they should have dealt with it much more seriously. Particularly because of the commonwealth.

Kate got upskirted when she was young.
Nobody would upskirt a 40 year old woman so it wouldn't have happened to Meghan and it wouldn't happen to Kate now.

The big problem today that Kate didn't have at the time the media was so vicious to her is social media.

Though, both the Sussex squad and the royalists act absolutely crazy on SM but Kate didn't really receive the abuse that Meghan received online. Royal forums weren't kind to her but they weren't as big as Twitter, Instagram,... are now.

But the social media aspect is bigger than the RF, bigger than the press. It is up to the Big Tech companies to step up and finally deal with these issues. It's unacceptable that, in 2023, people are allowed to be sexist, racist, send threats to people without any consequences