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Harry but not Meghan

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lipstickwoman · 12/04/2023 15:26

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

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Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:18

*And it has been posted and discussed several times over the past few months in a couple of other threads.

But I'll link to a small selection.*

We can’t read those clearly but at least one says ‘sources’. I think that what they mean is the stories that damaged her the most weren’t addressed- the wedding story started the early accusations of her being a bully, mean, a diva etc as an example.

Wheresthebeach · 14/04/2023 09:20

At the end of the day the Sussex's created the interest by delaying their response, so people, and the press, would naturally ask if he's coming (he did after all talk about a meeting and apologises before he'd come so he made that part public himself). Its unreasonable to expect the press not to ask about his attendance, so of course the delay was about protocol/what he wanted - otherwise he would have said 'yes' straight away. There are plenty of examples of Harry fussing over protocol (gold braids, procession position, Balmoral visit).

To avoid the speculation, all Harry had to do was accept the invite straight away. It's not like it was a short notice event after all so the issues about them coming, is all down to them. If you don't want a fuss - just say 'yes' and show up, and go where you're told to. Its not hard.

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:20

I think that what they mean is the stories that damaged her the most weren’t addressed

Literally one of the headlines in that montage is a denial that there’s a rift between her and Kate, though…

And, your regular reminder that the Palace utterly squashed the most damaging story of all - that she was bullying her staff.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:24

the Sussex's created the interest by delaying their response

1- we don’t know they did, it’s press gossip and
2- nobody needed to know if they had replied or not, it was clearly leaked intentionally

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:26

At the end of the day the Sussex's created the interest by delaying their response, so people, and the press, would naturally ask if he's coming (he did after all talk about a meeting and apologises before he'd come so he made that part public himself).

Exactly this. When asked if he would attend his father’s coronation in his tv interview with Tom Bradby to promote Spare, Harry said:

"There's a lot that can happen between now and then. But, you know, the door is always open. The ball is in their court. There's a lot to be discussed and I really hope they are willing to sit down and talk about it."

So no-one can really be surprised if people wonder what happened behind the scenes where we get to a position that the Sussexes confirmed that they were invited, said it was too early to confirm if they would be attending, and only later confirm only Harry will be coming.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:26

*Literally one of the headlines in that montage is a denial that there’s a rift between her and Kate, though…

And, your regular reminder that the Palace utterly squashed the most damaging story of all - that she was bullying her staff.*

Like I’ve said, I can’t read the montage well, when was that? Specifically in relation to the wedding story? Don’t think so.
Re bullying, when it suited them they did. Then Knauf exposed it intentionally at a difficult time, and they made sure everyone knew. Despite one of those who apparently made the claim being fired for misconduct.

Wheresthebeach · 14/04/2023 09:27

And the Palace never published the bullying report. Considering what Harry published in his book - assaulting protection officer, drug use etc it looks like there are all sorts of stories that never saw the light of day. Does anyone think the Palace didn't have anything to do with keeping a lid on that?

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:27

Nobody needed to know if they had replied or not, it was clearly leaked intentionally

It wasn’t “leaked”, the Palace made an official statement from their press office!

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:28

The invites hadn’t gone out at the time of the Bradby interview. Why would he confirm it then when they weren’t talking?

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:28

all sorts of stories that never saw the light of day

About all of them, I’m sure.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:29

It wasn’t “leaked”, the Palace made an official statement from their press office! They did? They stated he hadn’t RSVP’d in time?

Samcro · 14/04/2023 09:29

I can't believe people have fallen for this. of course the palace leaks stuff.
now everyone is talking about Meghan and Harry again.
One way to get people to forget about the real baddie as in Andrew.
yet no one seems to be worried about him being there, what he has been involved with , makes H&M seem good.

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:30

Despite one of those who apparently made the claim being fired for misconduct.

Oh yes, interesting that you mention that Whaeanui. How do you know that? Because Omid Scobie leaked it in Finding Freedom and later in a tv interview, and Meghan’s friend Janina Gavankar did the same, to discredit one of the employees that was bullied out of her job. Interesting that you’re pointing the finger at the Palace for leaking while lapping it up uncritically, from the other side when it suits you.

50shadesofneigh · 14/04/2023 09:31

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:24

the Sussex's created the interest by delaying their response

1- we don’t know they did, it’s press gossip and
2- nobody needed to know if they had replied or not, it was clearly leaked intentionally

This is a public event with international interest - there are absolutely set dates for invites and RSVPs, knowing who is attending etc.

Fuelled by the Sussexes continuing to bargain and refusing to give an answer till well beyond the RSVP date.

Your ''everything is press gossip'' line will only carry you so far.

LadyMuckingabout · 14/04/2023 09:31

I agree that an early firm “No, can’t make it” from Meghan at least would have fitted the “principled” line.

Imo one of H’s worst moments was when the Queen died and arguing about Meghan going to Balmoral. I don’t think either of them have the facility to self-reflect and I bet “seating plan”, “balcony” and no doubt “Netflix crew” were mentioned in Coronation attendance negotiations.

Wheresthebeach · 14/04/2023 09:31

Because there shouldn't have been any doubt about the King's son attending the Coronation. Unless of course, he wants to renounce his Titles, and live a normal life. But he doesn't. So it shouldn't ever have been an issue - the answer should have been 'yes of course'. End of speculation and discussion. But if you want to be talked about, and Harry does, then you keep everyone on tenterhooks about what's happening.

GrouchyKiwi · 14/04/2023 09:32

Samcro · 14/04/2023 09:29

I can't believe people have fallen for this. of course the palace leaks stuff.
now everyone is talking about Meghan and Harry again.
One way to get people to forget about the real baddie as in Andrew.
yet no one seems to be worried about him being there, what he has been involved with , makes H&M seem good.

Nobody forgets this. Everyone agrees that he's terrible and shouldn't be there. There's nothing to argue about or discuss, unlike with M&H, where there's bad behaviour on both sides, and the problem of the way the press behaves.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:32

@Wheresthebeach that’s your opinion only. The titles don’t actually go with events you attend, removed if you don’t go. It’s not relevant.

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:33

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:29

It wasn’t “leaked”, the Palace made an official statement from their press office! They did? They stated he hadn’t RSVP’d in time?

The Palace never said that. Various media outlets said that they understood that the deadline for RSVPs was 3 April. They could have got that from literally anyone who had been formally invited, though.

Eranzer · 14/04/2023 09:34

Who gives a shit?! 🤯

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:34

The Palace never said that. Various media outlets said that they understood that the deadline for RSVPs was 3 April. They could have got that from literally anyone who had been formally invited, though.

Ok you and I seem to be talking about different things. I am saying, whether he RSVP’d in time ir not, was leaked, yes? Not a statement. So nobody needed to know anything about when he responded is what I’m saying.

50shadesofneigh · 14/04/2023 09:39

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:34

The Palace never said that. Various media outlets said that they understood that the deadline for RSVPs was 3 April. They could have got that from literally anyone who had been formally invited, though.

Ok you and I seem to be talking about different things. I am saying, whether he RSVP’d in time ir not, was leaked, yes? Not a statement. So nobody needed to know anything about when he responded is what I’m saying.

The palace issued a statement as soon as H&M confirmed their RSVP in the last few days. The single RSVP date is well-known because thousands of people have been invited from across the globe. H&M did not RSVP in time - that is not a contentious statement!

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:39

Considering that the Palace and Meghan and Harry gave co-ordinated statements announcing who would be attending the Coronation, there was clearly no need for anything to be leaked.

The reporters would have been ringing the Palace press office on a daily basis to ask if Meghan and Harry were coming, you realise? Everytime the answer is “no comment” or “we aren’t yet able to confirm that”, the story writes itself…

Serenster · 14/04/2023 09:45

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:28

The invites hadn’t gone out at the time of the Bradby interview. Why would he confirm it then when they weren’t talking?

You misunderstand me. Harry was clearly saying in his interview that things have to happen before he’d attend his father’s Coronation - “the ball’s in their court” and “there’s a lot to be discussed”.

He is the one who is obviously making this into a story here.

Whaeanui · 14/04/2023 09:47

He is the one who is obviously making this into a story here.

🙄 is he now. Ok sure.

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