Harry but not Meghan

[lipstickwoman]

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

Yes they are totally out of control.

If I were W&K, I'd be saying NO I do not want this for my children

The other day I was away and could only get certain channels and I watched something where by journalists or commentators were talking about W&Ks kids and Louis came up and calling him the naughty one, the one who doesn't care, the one with a zest for life
FFS

If any family has a circus it's obviously Willy and Kate's.
Willy's beloved Rose Hanbury's son Oliver will be a page boy and that's absolutely acceptable although Kate is no longer friends with Rose for reason above but it's Archie and Lillie that shouldn't attend because......

She also says very nice things about Charles in the documentary, as does Harry in his book.

I do wonder how many of the most intense detractors on MN threads have actually read the book. Harry's depiction of Charles is actually affectionate. And his oft-quoted-out-of-context comment about Camilla being dangerous is not at all what it's made out to be by so many.

The book is much milder than I expected based on the pre-publication hype and statements from the MN anti Meghan/Harry coterie.

And another thing: I don't know where the British tabloids got their Spanish translators from, but for anyone who relied on the leaked tidbits that were published in the tabloids, I recommend that you read the English version.

And her brother was severely depressed and suicidal. He was even hospitalised at one point and the whole family (including William occasionally) went to weekly family therapy with him

I think not many. Very doubtful as they only focus on the leaked bits and none, absolutely none, of the rest

I have read it, royal books aren't my thing but I ploughed through it. It was lovely in places, boring in other places. A lot focused on his army days and there was genuine affection for his Dad.

I mean just look at how they are now attacking Kate, all to make sure Camilla looks great. Its so blantantly obvious and why should it happen? Why should this still go on, thats what they complained about..when does it stop? as a family they should be saying enough is enough, the press are out of control

Yes they are. I think Hugh Grant is right on this, people are afraid of the press. I think that includes the institution. If they could stand up to them it would really improve things for future royals and the younger ones when they are older.

Did anyone see Dr Shola on GMB this morning?

Her comments have been splashed over the Daily Mail. Am now convinced that she is just on a fun mission of epic trolling of the media 😅

With a dream career which to some is threatening and then she marries one of the most eligible bachelors in the UK and of Royal blood. Who does she think she is? Many spend their lifetime plotting; sending their daughters to certain schools, one of such daughters even modelling semi nude to get Willy's attention. Instead this brilliant black woman takes photos of African wild life while doing charity work there and the prince spots it on Instagram. Luckily he sees his friend is connected to the Instagram account and asks for an introduction. Just like that!? How dare she! Off with her h**d Jeremy Clarkson!

@SenecaFallsRedux agree. I can tell who has read the book and who relies on the press and its twisted version. I met Charles as a kid but grew to really dislike him as an adult. I definitely thought more of him after the book and thought Harry was incredibly generous to him and clearly showed they had a lot of love for each other. He could have written so much worse about Camilla too, but was fairly mild and didn’t go on too much. He seemed disappointed and sad not to be close to William when he had kids, rather than any kind of jealousy as the papers make out.

Those with horrid step mothers, horrid MILs and horrid in-laws know how traumatic the situation is for Harry and his family.
The person who can fight for them is the father the king but he's a weak man and only interested in the throne and Camilla.

https://twitter.com/NiickBoii/status/1646438015533760514?t=tuIenPbm4lOpCWYhkozzaw&s=19

I saw a clip of it. This tweet sums up my feelings really really well

Men who have a mistress and women who become them and step Mother's ruin families.

Men who can't manage themselves or to pick a wife well in a first marriage and make it work are a disaster, women attracted to such men are too.

Absolutely. She's the most fashionable and elegant of them all. It'll be so drab. Can't even stand watching Camilla irrespective of how many beautiful jewels she has on.

I can also relate to this and how traumatic it is. I have a horrid SIL and my parents have a horrid DIL.

That's why Jeremy Clarkson wrote what he published and then had lunch with Camilla afterwards.

So… it all depends on the side you are in.

This all got resolved decades ago. The kids are now married and middle aged with kids of their own. They also attended the wedding and that was almost 20 years ago. People make mistakes, life gets complicated, relationships don't always work out as planned.

It's time to let it go.

The way that pair behaved is why Harry is as he is, not that I like him, they shaped his childhood.

Why anyone trusts a pair of cheating gaslighters that their affair doesn't harm children is beyond me, it's all part of the cheats/thieves (resources from the family of origin) narrative telling everyone how robust children are.

Harry is all the evidence anyone needs that affairs and step parents damage and that the best mental health treatment in the would can't make it better.

...but he has a good reason to have 3. He needs to make extra sure the crown doesn't default to Harry under any circumstance! The commoners can make do with 0,1 or 2.

This all got resolved decades ago. The kids are now married and middle aged with kids of their own. They also attended the wedding and that was almost 20 years ago. People make mistakes, life gets complicated, relationships don't always work out as planned.

Absolutely. I have been a defender of Meghan since the beginning, especially since some of the early antagonism in the British press and sadly on MN as well seemed to be animated by racism. But I also admire Catherine and Camilla, both of whom I think have done remarkably well in their roles, in spite of having experienced negative press and public glare at times.

I really hate this pitting of women against each other to make a particular favorite seem superior to someone else. The misogyny on some of the threads discussing the royal women is palpable.

My DM died in child birth when I was a little child. My dad remarried within a year. Split myself and my new born sibling between relatives and then sent my older sibling out of the country. I was suffered bouts of depression for decades and only in the last few years did I get it addressed. I don't begrudge my step mother for wanting the house clear and having it to herswlf and her children. It's my father who had the responsibility of choosing a wife who will keep his children together if he wanted to. I asked him recently why he didn't, he sadly said perhaps he was too weak. He's in his 80s now.
A friend of mine recently married a widower with two children. I always encourage her to please treat the children kindly as the death of a mother at a young age is traumatic.

Megan isn't coming because she would have to publicly curtsey to Kate! I don't think her huge ego can take that!

It's disgraceful that Meghan turned down an invitation from Harry's father to his coronation. Meghan should be there in support of the man who walked her down the aisle and welcomed her into his family. Archie and Lily being out of the country and not witnessing any part of their heritage - even from the point of view of a youngster playing with cousins and seeing flags waving and horses and carriages - is also disrespectful of being a Prince and Princess of Britain.
Meghan should attend with Harry, ignoring any negative media coverage.

Delectable. That is a sad story, I hope things are more tranquil for you now 🪻

Why would she have to curtsey to Kate in public? Is she being crowned? Never seen them curtseying to each other in public? Why would this be done now?