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lipstickwoman · 2023-04-12T14:26:12+00:00

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/04/2023 10:42

Littleroseseverywhere · 13/04/2023 10:40

Gosh, some posters are hugely emotionally invested in harry and Meghan. Most posters are having an abstract discussion, but a couple are lashing out, arguing and attacking like it’s their first born being discussed.

no one can be bullied into thinking harry and Meghan have behaved decently. It’s pointless continually trying to bully people into silence or agreement,

I have seen no bullying, just robust engagement. If you feel any posts are bullying, please report them.

AskMeMore · 13/04/2023 10:46

Most of the comments deleted on threads seem to be from Royalists.

CathyorClaire · 13/04/2023 10:46

I was aware of some questions about where Epstein's loans to Feergie ended up, but I'm wondering if this a different donor you're talking about since "fraudster" isn't usually the first adjective folk go for with him?

Hi Puzzled 😃

I'm referring to the Selman Turk fraud case which named all the Yorks as recipients of contested funds:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/04/01/princess-beatrice-eugenie-prince-andrew-fraud-money-news/

Roussette · 13/04/2023 10:48

You call having a different opinion... bullying?

That's interesting. Does it work in reverse too? Are you bullying those who don't agree with you?

Phoebo · 13/04/2023 10:48

Whaeanui · 12/04/2023 16:03

@PennyForearm Their children are missing out on all of that it seems, with the extremely small and cut-off family their parents have created for themselves.

Sometimes it’s the family you were born into, sometimes it’s the one you make for yourself. Lots of people have close friends that become family. Sometimes, like in this case, it’s better that way

I agree, but there is something special about family. I have lots of friends, but my cousins I have known all my life and we have all our ancestors, and history in common. Family should always be there for you, no matter what. I appreciate it doesn't always work out that way which is sad.

Roussette · 13/04/2023 10:49

AskMeMore · 13/04/2023 10:46

Most of the comments deleted on threads seem to be from Royalists.

Ain't that the truth! Add in Previously Banned Posters too... there's been two in the last few days.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 10:55

Littleroseseverywhere · 13/04/2023 10:40

Gosh, some posters are hugely emotionally invested in harry and Meghan. Most posters are having an abstract discussion, but a couple are lashing out, arguing and attacking like it’s their first born being discussed.

no one can be bullied into thinking harry and Meghan have behaved decently. It’s pointless continually trying to bully people into silence or agreement,

You’ve only just joined. Nobody here as bullied you at all.

TrashyPanda · 13/04/2023 10:56

Children can’t get titles from their mother

that’s not strictly true.
most titles are inherited through the male line.
lhowever, when the Earldom of Mountbatten was created, there was a clause permitting the title to be inherited by Mountbattens daughter, Patricia, as he had no male heirs. Patriciabecame 2nd Countess of Mountbatten - her husband did not become Earl.

had the Queen wished, she could have created a similar title for her daughter, enabling it to pass to her children but not enobling Mark Philips. Anne has never been bothered about her children having titles.

Samcro · 13/04/2023 10:59

the only person I have seen bullied on this thread is Meghan

BMW6 · 13/04/2023 11:01

Littleroseseverywhere · 13/04/2023 07:39

I think the thing is, once you’ve laid it all bare. Sold your thoughts and all petty indiscretions about your family, done multiple interviews bad mouthing them, it’s pretty much impossible to then immediately go and act like happy families,

harry and Meghan, but mainly harry, are perceived to have caused so much pain, from reportedly bullying staff, to accusing his family of lots of things and breaching any trust and privacy

time and words will heal, but right now it’s too early, too soon , the media focus and threads like this show it. So this solution of him coming for the ceremony alone and leaving quickly is the most elegant.

on a separate note, I think Meghan is distancing herself from the whole thing. Before spare she was surgically attached to him. They did everything as a pair. Since the book was published, he has been flying solo and the coronation is just another example of that. Which does make me wonder just how supportive she is of what he’s doing, or how aware she is of the reputational damage they are both suffering due to it .

as much as the royal family has suffered some damage from it, the real damage is to harry and Meghan themselves as most people view the behaviour as tawdry and distasteful.

Absolutely nailed it 👌

AskMeMore · 13/04/2023 11:08

I would not worry about Archie and Lillibet's lack of family. They do have close family. A grandmother, two second cousins and their children.
With smaller families these days and one fifth of people not having children, lots of families are smaller anyway.
And the idea family should always be there for you is a very Walton's dream. It happens in a few families, but does not happen in other families. Which is why lots of people have close friends who are like family. My friends have helped me and my children way more than my family ever did.

BlackFriday · 13/04/2023 11:08

I think the whole thing is a bloody mess but in my opinion, Harry and Meghan have come off the worst.

KillerSandy · 13/04/2023 11:08

H and M despise the RF so much they still carry photos of themselves while involved in it . Have failed to update it though from the Queen. Pair of hypocrites.

Gooseysgirl · 13/04/2023 11:08

Samcro · 13/04/2023 10:12

its rather unsettling that it seems to be mainly white men of a certain age who are trolling Meghan.

Yep! Always the same 🙄

AskMeMore · 13/04/2023 11:09

Also loads of people have friends they do things with, but not friends who help each other.

custardbear · 13/04/2023 11:10

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 10:29

writing family secrets/skeletons and personal knowledge/conversations

Another poster who refuses to engage with the facts which show all of the royals do this. Charles has done books and interviews and quite clearly, stories in the press are based on what they’re being told. Harry is just putting his name to his truths.

Except the vicious and very personal things they've said is a whole other world of nasty. Calling the RF racist but not actually telling who the racist was which implies the whole family are racist - then once Philip and the queen die, they suddenly change their original rhetoric, and now it's apparently 'unconscious bias' ... bullshit - and why leave it until after both are dead to then change their minds and try to dilute the nastiness?

fragolino · 13/04/2023 11:12

Little roses im heartened to see more support for them to be honest because it used to be a vicious hate fest in here.

It's far more balanced now

KillerSandy · 13/04/2023 11:16

fragolino · 13/04/2023 11:12

Little roses im heartened to see more support for them to be honest because it used to be a vicious hate fest in here.

It's far more balanced now

Maybe it's not more support ? You don't think there might be a lack of interest in them and people fed up with seeing the same posters slapping each other on the back?

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 11:19

You don't think there might be a lack of interest in them

They’re still the most talked about on this board, including on threads not about them. There’s only so much you can say about Easter outfits

fragolino · 13/04/2023 11:26

@KillerSandy

No I think it was incredibly nasty in here at one point that it wasn't worth posting.

Because people who hate them, loathe them more than the people who are indifferent or don't think they have done anything wrong.

I find these boards far more balanced now. As balanced as it can be when green toxic slime literally runs out sometimes

AskMeMore · 13/04/2023 11:28

I agree that there used to be so many nasty comments on here. Anyone who said hey wait a minute, I do not think it is okay to say that incredibly nasty thing about someone else - was always accused of being a Harry and Meghan supporter or even a Stan.

Roussette · 13/04/2023 11:33

fragolino · 13/04/2023 11:26

@KillerSandy

No I think it was incredibly nasty in here at one point that it wasn't worth posting.

Because people who hate them, loathe them more than the people who are indifferent or don't think they have done anything wrong.

I find these boards far more balanced now. As balanced as it can be when green toxic slime literally runs out sometimes

You are totally right, since Meghan came on the scene and the threads are in their hundreds probably nearly a thousand about this couple, it used to be the middle of the road posters didn't feel brave enough to post because the anti H&M posters were absolutely driving people off.

It was me and a couple of others. Now there is balance, and middle of the road posters and those who are more Pro H&M feel comfortable enough to be able to post their views.

It's not going down well with some of course. And now there is more of us we are constantly accused of being paid bots. Only yesterday that was repeated a lot, MN swiftly deleted the baseless accusations

Viviennemary · 13/04/2023 11:34

Harry has said they all have lots to discuss. BBC news showed a clip yesterday of Harry saying that. After the publication of Spare. I think nobody wants to rake over all this stuff so he has decided to make this a short visit. William knocked him into a dog bowl. What's to discuss. It happens.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/04/2023 11:36

custardbear · 13/04/2023 11:10

Except the vicious and very personal things they've said is a whole other world of nasty. Calling the RF racist but not actually telling who the racist was which implies the whole family are racist - then once Philip and the queen die, they suddenly change their original rhetoric, and now it's apparently 'unconscious bias' ... bullshit - and why leave it until after both are dead to then change their minds and try to dilute the nastiness?

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Perhaps you missed it but the morning after the Oprah interview aired, harry and Meghan confirmed to Oprah who shared it on CBS news that the person who raised concerns about Archie's skin colour was not the Queen or Prince Phillip.

In the interview itself, Meghan had nothing but lovely things to say about the Queen, and in the Netflix series she expands on her respect and affection for her, and also shares a warm anecdote about Philip.

She also says very nice things about Charles in the documentary, as does Harry in his book.

Whoever raised those concerns, they made it clear long before the Queen and her husband died that it was not Charles, the Queen or Prince Phillip.

BlackFriday · 13/04/2023 11:56

What a load of nonsense.
They read the room (for once), realised that dissing the Queen was a mistake and started rowing back as frantically as they could.
They can relate all the "warm anecdotes" they like but the lasting impression for anyone with any perception at all is that it was a hatchet job.