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Harry but not Meghan

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lipstickwoman · 12/04/2023 15:26

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

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Inkanta · 13/04/2023 07:07

tatalan · 13/04/2023 06:45

Why are people pretending they don't know how it all went wrong? it might have something to do the press that welcomed her to the UK with Straight out of compton and Harry's girl on pornhub headlines.

Please be serious.

Yes exactly. I'm pleased for Meghan saying no - prioritising her health and kids. I can understand Harry feeling a duty to show up. I hope he's in and out of the UK quite swiftly - like last week at the court case.

MarshaBradyo · 13/04/2023 07:10

HamBone · 13/04/2023 02:58

@AskMeMore Sadly, Charles is probably concerned that any contact, even a phone call, won’t be kept private and could be discussed in a future interview or book. Public statements are the only safe form of olive branch now.

I can’t imagine not being able to have a private conversation with my child or being unable to visit them/grandchildren without being sure that every word won’t be reported.

Very true. It’s all become content so why would you not keep that in mind.

MaroonCow · 13/04/2023 07:13

Why is the onus on Charles to offer Olive branches?

Because he's the parent.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/04/2023 07:21

Littleroseseverywhere · 12/04/2023 19:23

Well their unofficial spokesperson. Omid what’s his name said that they wanted Archie to have a special mention at the coronation, the kids to attend , lili to be held up at the window, and and they wanted to appear on the balcony. They also wished to stay in frogmore when they were here.

The very obvious, go fuck yourselves that they got to those rather entitled Attention seeking demands has clearly resulted in this minimal dutiful attendance.

but it’s the right decision. The boos, the heckling, the focus on the brass neck of them would have been extreme. This way the coronation isn’t all about harry and Meghan and their world wide privacy tour.

This is entirely not true. Why the lies?

Omid Scobie said NO such thing. It was Angela Levin who was speculating about this on Australian television.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 07:27

Charles is probably concerned that any contact, even a phone call, won’t be kept private and could be discussed in a future interview or book.

There are a lot of books about the royal family, some of them written with full cooperation, Charles himself included.

I found this interesting. This argument between Harry and William included in Spare was already written about, almost identical except for one crucial part. Why is Harry being held to a different standard from everyone else? The nonsense about bridesmaids dresses was leaked, clearly, to make Meghan look bad. Who did that come from?? Harry stands by his words, the rest of them get other people to leak stories for them.

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Serenster · 13/04/2023 07:36

Which is why Charles was the sole beneficiary of the Queen's Will, billions in assets, numerous castles and estates, properties, land, seabeds etc. and £650M in cash and art, racehorses, etc

We haven’t seen the Queen’s will though, so that’s pure speculation.

Littleroseseverywhere · 13/04/2023 07:39

I think the thing is, once you’ve laid it all bare. Sold your thoughts and all petty indiscretions about your family, done multiple interviews bad mouthing them, it’s pretty much impossible to then immediately go and act like happy families,

harry and Meghan, but mainly harry, are perceived to have caused so much pain, from reportedly bullying staff, to accusing his family of lots of things and breaching any trust and privacy

time and words will heal, but right now it’s too early, too soon , the media focus and threads like this show it. So this solution of him coming for the ceremony alone and leaving quickly is the most elegant.

on a separate note, I think Meghan is distancing herself from the whole thing. Before spare she was surgically attached to him. They did everything as a pair. Since the book was published, he has been flying solo and the coronation is just another example of that. Which does make me wonder just how supportive she is of what he’s doing, or how aware she is of the reputational damage they are both suffering due to it .

as much as the royal family has suffered some damage from it, the real damage is to harry and Meghan themselves as most people view the behaviour as tawdry and distasteful.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 07:41

@Littleroseseverywhere welcome to the forum, I see you’re new. You’re just writing nonsense.

TrashyPanda · 13/04/2023 07:42

@Littleroseseverywhere - that is an astute summary of the situation.

tatalan · 13/04/2023 07:50

@Littleroseseverywhere eh, I think they're doing just fine. It's clearly important for Harry to be there on his Father's day, hopefully he makes it back in time to spend the evening with Archie.

Prescottdanni123 · 13/04/2023 07:59

@kirinm

Why? After everything that both Meghan and Harry have done, they were both still invited. She made the decision not to come.

Roussette · 13/04/2023 08:01

How on earth does anyone know how much they do together or seperately? It's a ridiculous assumption to say they are joined at the hip just because you have seen them at an awards ceremony or whatever, together. They did not 'do everything together' ! All you've seen is the sparse pictures of them, poor DMail had their clickbait cut off so they have to pick up the dregs of what they can scrape together from US press, so we have no idea of what they are doing.

I dont doubt Harry plays polo without Meghan, and she sees girlfriends without him. Honestly, some people make it up as they go along!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/04/2023 08:01

@Whaeanui

I saw that!! There is a fantastic thread on Twitter at the moment with all the inconsistencies in other accounts versus what Harry wrote. I found most striking that Robert Jobson, who has been one of the greatest critics of Harry writing how many Taliban insurgents he killed (25) is the same person who, in his own book HARRY'S WAR, revealed that Harry had killed 30 insurgents. I kid you not.

Where was the outrage then? And why the outrage now about Harry telling his own story and correcting the record?

A poster further up said Harry's misdemeanours can be forgiven but Meghan can't.

I wonder why that is.

Looking through the papers today, filled with "How Dare She Snub the King" outrage from the same people who have been saying for weeks that Meghan should stay away from the Coronation is quite something.

My favourite is Ingrid Seward who came up with this gem for The Sun:

Ingrid Seward, editor of Majesty Magazine, said: “It is a double insult to her father-in-law because he walked her down the aisle in her hour of need and to not attend his Coronation would be considered as rude.

“I don’t think Meghan wanted to risk being sat in the hinterland at the Abbey. Turning the invite down is rude and unnecessary.

“If she had any courage she would have attended with head held high.”

Think about that for a minute.

In other words, she should have come and expected to be treated like shit, and iced out and ignored, as they kept crowing for weeks. That she did not come means she is rude and has no courage.

I wonder how many in the press and on here, realise they are sounding like abusive men left by their female partners. Take the abuse, bitch, take it and love it and if you can't take it, it says something about you.

And interestingly, after the spin yesterday that Charles was pleased she wasn't coming and Kate was relieved, the story has changed to how Charles is disappointed not to see her and the kids.

It's all so dysfunctional.

Why they can't just be transparent and make a clear public statement instead of different courtiers briefing contradictory things will always astound me. I was ambivalent before, but I am really, really glad for her. She clearly has strong boundaries, and that is good for her.

But how terrible for the royal family that the only person who has declined the invitation is the mixed race mother of the King's children, the only children in the WORLD with the exceptional heritage of both being the descendants of African-American slaves though their mother and grandmother, and more than 40 monarchs through their father. Some of the same monarchs, incidentally, who benefitted from the very slave trade that brought their mother's African ancestors to America as enslaved people.

What a missed opportunity this whole mess is. How very very shortsighted not to see that embracing this family would have meant, before and beyond the Coronation.

But that's one for the history books. For now, I am glad Meghan has chosen not to go into a situation where she would be ripped and picked apart, and Harry has chosen to go, if only for the ceremony, because it matters that he pay his respects to his father, and his King.

Despite the sadness, an elegant solution.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:03

Take the abuse, bitch, take it and love it and if you can't take it, it says something about you.

this has been the theme the entire time. People here say it. Other women put up with it, why can’t you! It’s revolting, it really is.

purpledalmation · 13/04/2023 08:04

@Littleroseseverywhere Nailed it.

By the slimmest of margins I think Harry should be there simply for his dads sake. I think he has shown a sliver of decency among a catalogue of betrayals. He should sit quietly. Leave quickly and the press should just ignore him not that that will happen sadly. Stick him behind a huge candle or better still a pillar.

Take no notice of the detractors. They live here defending the indefensible

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:04

I found most striking that Robert Jobson, who has been one of the greatest critics of Harry writing how many Taliban insurgents he killed (25) is the same person who, in his own book HARRY'S WAR, revealed that Harry had killed 30 insurgents. I kid you not.

Yup, they’re all hypocrites

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Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:06

Take no notice of the detractors. They live here defending the indefensible

Detractors? Meanwhile you’re here to sling insults every day.

Roussette · 13/04/2023 08:09

Take no notice of the detractors

That would be nice. Sadly, not possible as they keep spewing out their dislike and insults of this couple.

Samcro · 13/04/2023 08:13

I have bbc on, they are bleating on about Harry and him coming and meghan not. such a non story really, but no mention of the Andrew problem, it really makes me wonder some times if Harry is paid to take the heat off Andrew, ( I know he's not, but why do people care more about someone who wrote a book and stuff and not someone who was involved in the abuse of a trafficked woman)

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:14

What gets me is that you post facts to refute lies and they’re ignored. Onid Scobie never said all that nonsense, the poster just ignored that and carried on. I’ve shown that other members of the family blab personal stories above and before, it’s just ignored. I showed the other day the bogus document proving Archewell was a charity not a foundation was a lie from Reddit, ignored and both people insisting to me have never come back to the forum at all- one was a prolific poster.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:15

why do people care more about someone who wrote a book and stuff and not someone who was involved in the abuse of a trafficked woman
Why indeed

Roussette · 13/04/2023 08:17

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:14

What gets me is that you post facts to refute lies and they’re ignored. Onid Scobie never said all that nonsense, the poster just ignored that and carried on. I’ve shown that other members of the family blab personal stories above and before, it’s just ignored. I showed the other day the bogus document proving Archewell was a charity not a foundation was a lie from Reddit, ignored and both people insisting to me have never come back to the forum at all- one was a prolific poster.

This is the modus operandi. It always always always happens like this. In the past, I have had demands for proof of something I say. I provide a legitimate source. Ignored.

Whaeanui · 13/04/2023 08:19

@MrsMaxDeWinter oh The Sun are being ridiculous. Charles was there for her?? Not when it mattered!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/04/2023 08:22

Indeed @Roussette, they do, and when challenged, they put their fingers in their ears and go nanananana, can't hear you.

Despite many requests, @purpledalmation has still not responded regarding the easily disproved and incorrect assertions she made about Meghan never once talking about her mother before her marriage to Harry. But back again she pops, with another line of attack, blissfully ignoring the one that failed.

Coleridge has nothing on some of these posters. It's like the rime of the Ancient Mariner around here, with posters rehashing the same points again and again (The matron at Ludgrove! The Taliban! Oprah! The curtsey! Doria! Samantha! Poor poor Thomas! The matron at Ludgrove! The Taliban! Oprah! The curtsey!)

At least the poor Mariner hoped to hope to convince some unwary traveller of the truth of his tale. Here is it all just malice, made clear by the fact that even when proved wrong, posters simply won't concede that they are wrong.

vera99 · 13/04/2023 08:22

BlackFriday · 12/04/2023 21:18

"Meghan OWNS the U.K and the whole world knows it."

That is, by quite some margin, the funniest thing I've read on here in a long time.

I do wonder if there is brigading from CelebBitchy here sometimes because it's easy. That said Meghan is box office in respect of the acres of information that will pour over her every move and outfit. There's only so far you can go with Edward and Sophie before you end up with an empty box.

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