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The royal family

Harry but not Meghan

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lipstickwoman · 12/04/2023 15:26

No surprise he's coming on his own to the coronation.

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4plusthehound · 12/04/2023 19:16

Nailsandthesea · 12/04/2023 19:00

It’s a pressure cooker environment. Not surprised on the sheer number of divorces. And you can’t tell what goes on.

He wanted to step back (Harry) and Meghan but didn’t return their titles and demanded them for their children / that seems the opposite - either you are in or out.
I doubt she will step foot on British soil again.
He could have come with the children and the lateness of the decision suggests they were bartering up until the last minute. He has demanded an apology but wasn’t given one. Effectively Charles wanted peace in a few years of reign.

I expect Harry will be put next to Eugenie and Beatrice so he doesn’t get booed. He will fly in and out on private jet and then straight home.

I also expect that no one will want to speak to him and like most narcissistic people you can’t communicate with them as everything gets twisted.

He has demanded an apology but wasn’t given one.

This is great gossip! Where did you find that out?

MarshaBradyo · 12/04/2023 19:16

Viviennemary · 12/04/2023 19:10

BbC just showed a clip of Harry saying there is a lot to be discussed. Not referring to the coronation but to his grievances aired in his book and interviews. Its all rumbling on and on nicely.

But the big thing like Charles's ex mistress now being crowned Queen all fine. Bit ironic. And Camilla's grandchildren playing a key part and Harry's children not even invited bit rich really. I sympathise with Harry if he isnt pleased about that.

They’re very young though, would they last. Louis was a pain at one event.. Or adorable according to some

Not sure how old the other dc going are?

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 12/04/2023 19:17

feel for Harry. He had to walk behind his mother's coffin at a young age, how coud he not be traumatised.

As did William, I assume you feel for him too.

Fuerza · 12/04/2023 19:18

The right decision.
I know the book was harry's fault, but the royals are his family, he has to go or he'll regret it. As a couple, they'd appear hypocritical to attend, but Harry going on his own shows a concession to all of their dissatisfaction.

Roselilly36 · 12/04/2023 19:18

I genuinely feel for Harry, he must feel so divided, of course he is doing the right thing to come home for his dads coronation, unforgivable not too. It’s also his first borns birthday and his life, wife & family are in the US. Unenviable position to be in tbh.

HufflePuffllePuff · 12/04/2023 19:18

Totally agree that there was probably lots of haranguing in the background which is why the decision was made at the last minute.

I don't think for a second that Meghan didn't want to come. Of course she did, she needs the exposure of being part of the RF and you can't get more exposure than a prominent position at a historic, global event watched by millions!

Wouldn't surprise me if William and Kate had some leverage or there was discussions about financial support in the future.

Harry may have made some money now but that won't last (global superstar lifestyles don't come cheap) and he hasn't got much more to sell. He's not exactly a business genius.

Also agree that Harry has had a face like a slapped arse for the last few years and his 'truth' has certainly not set him free.

fragolino · 12/04/2023 19:19

I don't see this about lower stuff like press or even Charles.

It's something for their children really!

4plusthehound · 12/04/2023 19:19

Frankola · 12/04/2023 19:03

No doubt we'll see press articles soon from "leaks", aka Omid Scobie that Meghan had decided not to attend because she has been so victimised and bullied by the royals...🙄

It's a real shame the children aren't being allowed to forge any kind of relationship with their fathers family.

I wonder if there are security concern over the children?

That seems to be the sticking point all the time - race haters threatening them but the Royal Family or King Charles cannot afford the security for them.

PollyThePixie · 12/04/2023 19:20

Viviennemary · 12/04/2023 19:10

BbC just showed a clip of Harry saying there is a lot to be discussed. Not referring to the coronation but to his grievances aired in his book and interviews. Its all rumbling on and on nicely.

But the big thing like Charles's ex mistress now being crowned Queen all fine. Bit ironic. And Camilla's grandchildren playing a key part and Harry's children not even invited bit rich really. I sympathise with Harry if he isnt pleased about that.

Camilla’s grandchildren are all older than the Kings grandchildren. As is her nephew who’s also taking part in the ceremony. And I believe the King is also godfather to one o& the children.

George is also taking part in the ceremony.

And I’m not sure if it’s been decided Louis is attending yet.

Exhibity · 12/04/2023 19:21

Hasn't Charlotte got a part ?

MedievalMadness · 12/04/2023 19:21

If they are so keen to take up the Prince and Princess titles for their DC, I’d have thought it would be meaningful for them to take their rightful place at the Coronation of their grandfather and have photos to look back on when they’re old enough to appreciate the significance of their attendance and their place in history. It’s sad they will be deprived of something so special.

purpledalmation · 12/04/2023 19:21

AskMeMore · 12/04/2023 18:52

Charles, Anne, Andrew all divorced. Edward was the only one who did not.
I hope Eugenie and Beatrice are happy, but it is far too soon to know if their marriages will last a long time.
Lots of rumours about William and Kate
Peter divorced
Zara seems okay

There is nothing wrong with getting divorced, but it is a lot of divorces. Half of the marriages have led to divorce. A far higher rate of divorce than the general population.

There's nothing wrong with divorce you say, but you put up a post as though something's wrong with you if you do? Odd

I think there are about 12 royal couples, only 3 divorces.

BlackFriday · 12/04/2023 19:21

"first-born's birthday!"
Oh purlease!!

RoseThornside · 12/04/2023 19:21

I think this is the right decision. It is Archie's birthday, and that needs to be celebrated. Meghan probably doesn't want to come to the coronation anyway, so that's the perfect way out for her. But Harry wants to be part of the coronation - not totally sure of his motives though - because it's his 'birthright'? Because he wants to remain relevant in the UK? Because he loves his father? Because not attending would send the press into more of a frenzy than if he does attend? Not sure.

But it is the best decision all round.

User5464245 · 12/04/2023 19:23

Word on TikTok is that they've been arguing a lot between each other and thus the reason for missing the RSVP deadline and the late announcement. If they were both on board from the very beginning that she would stay for Archie's bday with both kids and he flies alone (same arrangement as for Prince Philipp's funeral) then it would have been announced much earlier. A timely announcement would obviously have reduced a lot of speculation compared to leaving it to the last hour. If they wanted to avoid attention then the current timing is obviously a misstep.

Isn't it odd how for all the fuss H&M make about being a joint brand, they have barely been spotted together for almost half a year?!

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 19:23

MedievalMadness · 12/04/2023 19:21

If they are so keen to take up the Prince and Princess titles for their DC, I’d have thought it would be meaningful for them to take their rightful place at the Coronation of their grandfather and have photos to look back on when they’re old enough to appreciate the significance of their attendance and their place in history. It’s sad they will be deprived of something so special.

Those children will be deprive of so much apart from money and titles.

Louis, I suspect will be a character miz of Harry and James Middleton, it's the way things go in some families.

Littleroseseverywhere · 12/04/2023 19:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/04/2023 19:12

... the lateness of the decision suggests they were bartering up until the last minute

I could easily believe there's been some to and fro - Harry's public comments about an apology point to it - but let's not forget we simply don't know how long the palace have known about the acceptance by him alone

Well their unofficial spokesperson. Omid what’s his name said that they wanted Archie to have a special mention at the coronation, the kids to attend , lili to be held up at the window, and and they wanted to appear on the balcony. They also wished to stay in frogmore when they were here.

The very obvious, go fuck yourselves that they got to those rather entitled Attention seeking demands has clearly resulted in this minimal dutiful attendance.

but it’s the right decision. The boos, the heckling, the focus on the brass neck of them would have been extreme. This way the coronation isn’t all about harry and Meghan and their world wide privacy tour.

PollyThePixie · 12/04/2023 19:24

Not sure how old the other dc going are?

Camillas grandchildren taking part in her ceremony are ages. 12/13 to 14/15

She also has a granddaughter who’s about 15

DuchessOfPort · 12/04/2023 19:25

I honestly think this outcome is the best for both sides.

Meghan doesn’t have to grit her teeth and spend the whole day under immense pressure and scrutiny, but instead spends a nice birthday with in sunny California with her children and perhaps mum and friends.

Harry gets to attend and hopefully will be in a sort of Prince Edward and Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank sandwich and they will be good friendly company to him and he actually might even enjoy the service a bit. The pageantry and skills of our armed forces are second to none.

He can head home as soon as he likes, duty done, nothing stressful to happen and unless he accepts an invitation for his family to Balmoral or something in the summer, he really need never bother himself with the Royal Family (Ltd) again if he doesn’t want to. And if he wants to sort things out with his family then none of our business and we don’t need to know any of it.

I think they’ve made the most sensible, least dramatic decision around this event.

Littleroseseverywhere · 12/04/2023 19:27

DuchessOfPort · 12/04/2023 19:25

I honestly think this outcome is the best for both sides.

Meghan doesn’t have to grit her teeth and spend the whole day under immense pressure and scrutiny, but instead spends a nice birthday with in sunny California with her children and perhaps mum and friends.

Harry gets to attend and hopefully will be in a sort of Prince Edward and Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank sandwich and they will be good friendly company to him and he actually might even enjoy the service a bit. The pageantry and skills of our armed forces are second to none.

He can head home as soon as he likes, duty done, nothing stressful to happen and unless he accepts an invitation for his family to Balmoral or something in the summer, he really need never bother himself with the Royal Family (Ltd) again if he doesn’t want to. And if he wants to sort things out with his family then none of our business and we don’t need to know any of it.

I think they’ve made the most sensible, least dramatic decision around this event.

Agree, but I doubt they did it for good reasons, I strongly suspect it was another spiteful act because they weren’t getting their demands met.

MarshaBradyo · 12/04/2023 19:28

PollyThePixie · 12/04/2023 19:24

Not sure how old the other dc going are?

Camillas grandchildren taking part in her ceremony are ages. 12/13 to 14/15

She also has a granddaughter who’s about 15

This would be the reason I reckon

If Archie is only just four and his sister younger they’re too young to participate really

4plusthehound · 12/04/2023 19:29

User5464245 · 12/04/2023 19:23

Word on TikTok is that they've been arguing a lot between each other and thus the reason for missing the RSVP deadline and the late announcement. If they were both on board from the very beginning that she would stay for Archie's bday with both kids and he flies alone (same arrangement as for Prince Philipp's funeral) then it would have been announced much earlier. A timely announcement would obviously have reduced a lot of speculation compared to leaving it to the last hour. If they wanted to avoid attention then the current timing is obviously a misstep.

Isn't it odd how for all the fuss H&M make about being a joint brand, they have barely been spotted together for almost half a year?!

Oh stop!

And stop with TicTok.It is unhealthy.

Stick with Mumsnet! 😁😅

vera99 · 12/04/2023 19:29

A subtle protest on the day for Republic would be to have a group carrying placards along the lines of I love Harry decorated with all the usual tat camped out on the route. 😁

MedievalMadness · 12/04/2023 19:30

As a couple, they'd appear hypocritical to attend, but Harry going on his own shows a concession to all of their dissatisfaction.

No more hypocritical than taking up royal titles for their children and not taking part as royals at this once in a lifetime historical event.

nonheme · 12/04/2023 19:31

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