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The royal family

Harry and Meghan still not replied to Coronation Invitation

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Viviennemary · 06/04/2023 11:09

Harry and Meghan still haven't replied to the invitation to the coronation even though the RSPV deadline has passed. If it's true I think it's a bit rude. They know the preparation that goes into these events. It must be a headache for the planners not to know if they are coming or not.

Apparently Arche and Lilibet aren't invited to the actual ceremony as they are deemed to be too young. My bet is they will all come to the UK for the coronation but who knows. Not heard if Andrew is coming or not. And Fergie. Will she be there. Maybe behind a pillar.

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Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 12:18

New article in DM. Harry has said need answers to lots of questions about how it will all work before they can accept the invitation.

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Inkanta · 07/04/2023 12:18

I expect the palace/ Royal Family do know if Harry (and Meghan) is coming. If I was Harry I'd be saying but don't chuffin leak it to press yet - see if you can you can hold off - give me a break.

Roussette · 07/04/2023 12:19

Good old Daily Mail. Let's make stuff up cos we haven't seen Meghan for months and we've got to fill our paper with absolute dross.

mixedrecycling · 07/04/2023 12:22

For work I occasionally have to set meeting dates for meetings where a couple of bishops need to attend. Every time it is a nightmare, their diaries are booked months in advance, and for some things years in advance. The Archbishops are even worse. Throw in the PM, various foreign Heads of State, the need to avoid major sporting events, get it in before everyone starts going on summer holidays but late enough to have a good chance of warm, dry weather...

Honestly, the idea that people planning the coronation are going out of their way to be spiteful about a 4 year old's birthday is getting into paranoia and conspiracy theory territory.

The Westminster Abbey team are already into major rehearsals. More and more people will need to be briefed down to the minute. Knowing who is attending would probably be helpful for those who have to co-ordinate the event.

tatalan · 07/04/2023 12:23

Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 12:18

New article in DM. Harry has said need answers to lots of questions about how it will all work before they can accept the invitation.

He probably wants to know if they will ban his wife from certain places then brief the papers. Or invite, then disinvite them to a reception. Like they did at the funeral.

He's wasting his time IMO (if true), they've made it clear they intend to ice him out and isolate him. He should stay home.

rattymol · 07/04/2023 12:27

I agree they should stay home. If they come the royal family will just treat them poorly and brief the press against them. They should save themselves the grief.

Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 12:27

Biden isn't comimg I just read. Sending his wife instead. I think that's a bit cheeky. Maybe Harry thought he could cadge a lift on Airforce 1. Carbon footprint and all that.

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rattymol · 07/04/2023 12:29

Why is it cheeky for Biden not to come. It's an invitation not a summons.

Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 12:34

Once in a generation. Special friendship and all that. If I was Charles I would be annoyed. Its a snub.

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Roussette · 07/04/2023 12:42

Presidents have never attended Coronations I read somewhere. And he's booked in for a Royal visit here shortly anyway.

I think some posters are more worked up about the Coronation being on Archie's birthday saying who cares, what does it matter, why are people on here saying it was deliberate... when I would say just about all of those who aren't anti Harry and Meghan have said it doesn't matter and wasn't deliberate !

Serenster · 07/04/2023 12:46

While he is young, Archie's birthday doesn't particularly matter. When Archie is a confused 14yr old teen and his birthday actually does matter, it will be some kind of 10yr anniversary and when he is 29 it will be a jubilee. Whoever decided this, has left him a legacy.

Jubilees are actually counted from the date of accession, so will fall in September in future years. The celebrations associated with them tend to be scheduled in summer (as that gives reliably better weather., obviously). QEII’s were held around the time of her coronation, but as dates obviously fall on different days of the week over time, the actual days differed.

QEII’s coronation was on 2 June, so her celebrations were held around then, but not necessarily on the day itself - her the big parades and balcony appearances for her silver, gold and diamond Jubilees were on the 6th, 4th and 5th of June for example then. So it’s quite likely Archie’s birthday will be safe.

(And even so, so what? I can’t for the life of me get worked up over a state event involving key figures of various institutions having just a few dates that will work clashing with an individual birthday, by the way. The world does not revolve around birthdays, no matter how loved and valued the child is).

Roussette · 07/04/2023 12:49

And even so, so what? I can’t for the life of me get worked up over a state event involving key figures of various institutions having just a few dates that will work clashing with an individual birthday, by the way. The world does not revolve around birthdays, no matter how loved and valued the child is

Yep. This isn't about Archie at all and fixing a suitable date is probably a nightmare. And it's worth noting, H&M have said nothing about the clash of dates (not that it is a clash, but you know what I mean)

derxa · 07/04/2023 12:55

rattymol · 07/04/2023 10:58

Andrew will never move into frogmore. It is all for pr.

I don't care where he lives.

DiscoBeat · 07/04/2023 12:56

Didn't they want to go off and do their own thing? Why not leave them to it. I really don't get this obsession!

Inkanta · 07/04/2023 13:25

So just looked it up. Archie' s birthday is 6th May. Coronation 8th May. That's probably been noted on these threads already. But it's not on same day - as I was thinking.

Inkanta · 07/04/2023 13:28

Ah no sorry both on 6th May!

Inkanta · 07/04/2023 13:28

8th May is a Bank Holiday for us.

notanotheroneagain · 07/04/2023 13:54

mixedrecycling · 07/04/2023 12:22

For work I occasionally have to set meeting dates for meetings where a couple of bishops need to attend. Every time it is a nightmare, their diaries are booked months in advance, and for some things years in advance. The Archbishops are even worse. Throw in the PM, various foreign Heads of State, the need to avoid major sporting events, get it in before everyone starts going on summer holidays but late enough to have a good chance of warm, dry weather...

Honestly, the idea that people planning the coronation are going out of their way to be spiteful about a 4 year old's birthday is getting into paranoia and conspiracy theory territory.

The Westminster Abbey team are already into major rehearsals. More and more people will need to be briefed down to the minute. Knowing who is attending would probably be helpful for those who have to co-ordinate the event.

I would have thought bishops would drop everything for the Head of the Church, tbh. They could' t even secure the most powerful president in the world with this date.

But, no worries. It's all a co-incident, so that's me told !

I get it.

Just as I said. One of Harry's 'bad lucks', as I listed on another post.

Like that time he spoke to HMQE and they happily agreed to meet, only for him to be told she is busy and forgot and he asks her if there is someone listening in to the call in the room and she says yes.
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That time a statement was ready about the outcomes of the exit meeting and someone already had it ready, printed to be signed, and he wanted to know if other outcomes had also been already been printed, they told him the machine had broken - only for him to find the printer churning out pages just fine.

Just bad luck and coincidence !🤔

Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 14:05

I read H&M leaked they were leaving the royals before it was even finalised or sorted out and the palace were furious.

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AuroraCake · 07/04/2023 14:29

When Harry left he took on an institution. He has soon a lack of intelligence, maturity and knowledge in everything to do with what happened when he left. And an absolute blind spot to do with his grandmother. She was the head. It has come out later that she scrapped th half in, out proposals. Everyone was working on it and she said no.

He left. Get on with your life Harry.

AuroraCake · 07/04/2023 14:32

And this date has nothing to do with Archie. The jubilees are always held on that weekend in June so for Lilibet it was the way it is.

The weather needed to be good. May is actually a bit early. June was probably out because of relation to previous coronation and jubilees and other events. July runs a weather risk of too warm for that amo7nt of people and therefore even more pressure on the health service. Everyone’s on holiday in August.

Realistically it was May and June.

Roussette · 07/04/2023 14:39

Viviennemary · 07/04/2023 14:05

I read H&M leaked they were leaving the royals before it was even finalised or sorted out and the palace were furious.

No. They were outed on this. The papers were going to run the story so they had to talk about it.

AuroraCake · 07/04/2023 14:42

Roussette · 07/04/2023 14:39

No. They were outed on this. The papers were going to run the story so they had to talk about it.

You know that no one has ever said where the information came from. They pointed the finger but no one knows. It as likely that they did as anyone else.

Roussette · 07/04/2023 14:45

AuroraCake · 07/04/2023 14:42

You know that no one has ever said where the information came from. They pointed the finger but no one knows. It as likely that they did as anyone else.

Why would they decide to leak to the papers before the plans were finalised. It was obvious it came from elsewhere... I thought it was Don Wootton or someone who had a hotline to the Palace. Surely, they'd want it all cut and dried before official statements and it did seem rushed at the time, like they had no choice.

notanotheroneagain · 07/04/2023 14:52

Roussette · 07/04/2023 14:45

Why would they decide to leak to the papers before the plans were finalised. It was obvious it came from elsewhere... I thought it was Don Wootton or someone who had a hotline to the Palace. Surely, they'd want it all cut and dried before official statements and it did seem rushed at the time, like they had no choice.

Yep, it was Dan Wootton.

He came specially to Jeremy Vine and had a special sit to gloat about how he had one over H&M and forced their hand to publish on their website because he was printing it that night for morning release.

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