Harry and Meghan still not replied to Coronation Invitation

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Harry and Meghan still haven't replied to the invitation to the coronation even though the RSPV deadline has passed. If it's true I think it's a bit rude. They know the preparation that goes into these events. It must be a headache for the planners not to know if they are coming or not.

Apparently Arche and Lilibet aren't invited to the actual ceremony as they are deemed to be too young. My bet is they will all come to the UK for the coronation but who knows. Not heard if Andrew is coming or not. And Fergie. Will she be there. Maybe behind a pillar.

A role model is different.
Everyone black I know supports Meghan because they recognise the racism she experiences and how so much of the criticism aimed at her is fuelled by racism.
That does not automatically equate to seeing her as a role model.

I ask again.. how does anyone KNOW that criticism levelled at M is fuelled by racism? That is always the claim on these threads, that anyone who doesn’t like her behaviour must be racist. However that’s an assumption. It isn’t a hard and fast fact. There are lots of reasons people may not warm to her. Being mixed race may be a factor for some, but no one really knows do they?

That is always the claim on these threads, that anyone who doesn’t like her behaviour must be racist

That is so not true. And I don't think posters say this, as I said in my post of 17.12 yesterday.
Some, just some criticism is rooted in racism. Not all.

That is always the claim on these threads, that anyone who doesn’t like her behaviour must be racist.

NOBODY is saying this! The constant theme is actually the minimisation of the racism she did suffer. POC do not say every criticism is racist at all.

Sometimes that's overt, at other times it is implied, such as saying that they are a POC and every POC they know supports Meghan. The implication is that anyone holding a different opinion is racist, or, if a POC, a 'coconut'.

It doesn’t imply any such thing. It was the poster simply saying what those around her think. YOU are the one that introduced words like ‘tainted’ and ‘coconut’ into this conversation, where you know black people are present.

Which is why I referred to POC I know who do not support Meghan's behaviour as 'tainted' - not because I think they are tainted, but because I knew that by referring to their views on this thread they would be dismissed as being a 'shield'.

’tainted’ and ‘shield’ have different meanings. Once again, YOU introduced these themes into the thread, not any of the actual people of colour on the thread.

What do you mean by colorism here? Are you saying some people don’t think of Meghan as a role model because she is too dark? That doesn’t make sense. Are you using the word incorrectly?

Obviously not everyone will think of any particular POC as a role model just because of their colour. No POC on this thread have said that at all. There’s several themes being raised by posters here that aren’t in discussion at all. The POC on this thread and others have take time to make considered posts that don’t make sweeping statements and then we have a bunch of posters coming in with ‘not everything is racism’ ‘ my friends are tainted’ ‘ you’re saying white people think this or that’ and other themes that aren’t relevant or haven’t been mentioned by us.

😂and this beautifully illustrates how accusations of racism can be used to try and undermine people with a different opinion!

I'll let you get on with it, as it is obviously pointless to continue.

I have never read racist posts on RF threads. If there were, they would not be tolerated and quite rightly deleted. Obviously, I can’t get into peoples heads and that would be the only way to truly know.

@mixedrecycling where did I accuse you of racism? In what I just posted I did not do that.

@mixedrecycling I’m not accusing you of anything! Several posters came into the thread to make claims that aren’t true on this thread. What reason would I have to think you’re racist? You have a black DD & lived what I gather is a long time in South Africa? I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion based on my posts. Your points on sports I was actually going to ask you about as I’m a rugby fan and know formerly black South Africans were shut out. Rugby is different now. Tennis maybe not?

I have read many and they have been rightfully deleted

Again you are talking about apples and I am talking about oranges. We are not talking about tennis. We are talking about the fact that someone being well known and wealthy did not insulate her from racism. I don’t think I can make it any clearer.

I’m showing that Serena was able to use her privilege to avoid the very real outcomes that to other women - please read the MMBRACE-UK studies in this country for maternal mortality and morbidity for real examples of bias in medicine.

I’m not sure the relevance of colourism in this discussion. Do fair skinned POC move through societies easier than their darker skinned cousins? Absolutely. Does that mean fair skinned POC do not get discriminated against? Absolutely not.

We are talking about the fact that someone being well known and wealthy did not insulate her from racism. I don’t think I can make it any clearer.

Don’t worry, it was crystal clear.

Some are deleted. And some are left standing. And some posters who challenge racism vigorously disappear, I assume banned.