Page 3 | Meghan Markle has ‘warped sense of reality,’ Vanity Fair writer says

blitheringblackberries · 2023-03-30T22:35:54+00:00

Interesting article [[https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/03/29/meghan-markle-has-warped-sense-of-reality-isnt-on-the-level-vanity-fair-writer-says https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/03/29/meghan-markle-has-warped-sense-of-reality-isnt-on-the-level-vanity-fair-writer-says/]]

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:07

extramaturecheddarcheese · 31/03/2023 10:00

twitter.com/ArchewellBaby/status/1641465671438434308?s=20

This is an interesting view of what their foundation has got up to. This doesn't make them seem like the demons you'd like to imagine. Maybe he has got a point in what the press do to control what you think of them.

You know this won't be enough for people. There'll be arguments that they could have donated more. I remember the comments about donating to A twist of greatness.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:07

Spectre8 · 31/03/2023 09:44

Even the media have to regurgitate stuff now to have any articles about them. ..whats so hypocritical is people on here wanting them to go away, they do but people still start threads on them 🤔

People on here say they should move on and look to the future and stop talking about their past ...yet on here people are still dragging up what they said in the past just to bash them. Why don't you all just move on too.

People on here accuse them of being liars, yet quote from articles that are from some so called source or full of might have, could have...basically not facts.

Lol honestly threads like this are pure entertainment now, how people still try to come up with something to tear a person down over and over...actually its really pathetic

Harry has proven himself to be a liar though, it came from his own mouth during the Oprah interview. As for Meghan, well she did admit to ‘forgetting’ that she had corresponded with the author of Finding Freedom despite her lawyer claiming she didn't, after evidence was submitted in court that she did.

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:07

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:05

He can talk about comparing killing Afghans to playing a video game

The taliban, to be clear. Are you of the opinion the British army should be dissolved? Because how do you think ordinary men can go and kill anyone, regardless of if it’s the taliban or Russian soldiers, if they aren’t trained to dehumanise the enemy? People need to stop telling veterans they can’t honestly tell their stories. It causes them to carry the burden of what they did as if it was their sole responsibility. They do it in our name remember.

Isn't it funny how much sympathy the Taliban get when Harry is involved.

Mypatioisminging · 31/03/2023 10:08

To be honest I think harry gets it worse now

i understand the super fans have arrived but it’s very clear neither of them have a grasp on reality. Their truths are often proven factually incorrect

what they have done is incredibly hurtful, selling stories and interviews on the royals to settle scores made worse by the fact much of it is an altered reality by both of them.

TheVanguardSix · 31/03/2023 10:10

PacificallyRequested · 31/03/2023 08:45

In other news, water is wet and the pope is Catholic.

Pics or it didn't happen.

notanotheroneagain · 31/03/2023 10:10

extramaturecheddarcheese · 31/03/2023 10:00

twitter.com/ArchewellBaby/status/1641465671438434308?s=20

This is an interesting view of what their foundation has got up to. This doesn't make them seem like the demons you'd like to imagine. Maybe he has got a point in what the press do to control what you think of them.

Wow, well done Archewell.

A lot of donations to women related organisations too. No wonder MM received an award the other day.

Girl Inc
Girls who Code
Paid Leave
The 19th News
The Loveland Foundation
Women for Afghanistan

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:11

Mypatioisminging · 31/03/2023 10:08

To be honest I think harry gets it worse now

i understand the super fans have arrived but it’s very clear neither of them have a grasp on reality. Their truths are often proven factually incorrect

what they have done is incredibly hurtful, selling stories and interviews on the royals to settle scores made worse by the fact much of it is an altered reality by both of them.

I'm not a super fan. I just find the nastiness by posters on these threads disgusting. Talk about anyone in the way people discuss these two and I'd feel the same.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:13

i understand the super fans have arrived but it’s very clear neither of them have a grasp on reality. Their truths are often proven factually incorrect

Im not a super fan. I’m anti monarchy. In fact I had very little interest in them until he left and I saw how they were being demonised. As I’ve said before, I’m a mental health advocate having suffered myself and one of my daughters being incredibly unwell herself with it. I saw how the public reacted to them talking about the affects on them of people like those on this board, and how society still hasn’t got it right on mental health and that’s why I’m interested. Their truths are not often proven false, they’re often twisted and misrepresented deliberately by tabloids and people with no critical thinking lap it up and join a hate mob.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:14

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:03

Harry has discussed his mistakes and what he’s done to learn, grow and change his behaviour. More people should do this.

Has he though? Has he taken full ownership of his racism by saying that it was due to him and him alone and not because he was unaware of his bias or that he didn't realise it was wrong in the environment he was raised in? Or because William and Catherine encouraged him to wear the Nazi uniform? Has he apologized to his brother for mentioning his private parts or balding head in his book or for dragging his brother’s kids into squabble with his family and royal institution? Has he apologised to his family for implying that they were racist to Oprah?

LolaSmiles · 31/03/2023 10:15

This is an interesting view of what their foundation has got up to. This doesn't make them seem like the demons you'd like to imagine.
Why is the assumption that everyone falls into Team Love Them or Team Hate Them though?

Much as I'd like the monarchy abolished, I hoped they'd be a positive change for the firm.
They wanted to raise their children out the public eye and be private citizens, and I had no strong feelings other than hoping it worked out for them. It's understandable to want a life out of the bubble for the children.
With their endless courting the press, selling stories, suggesting titles weren't given due to racism when the children weren't eligible until Charles became king, my sympathy decreased.
I find it hypocritical after all they've said that they're desperate for their children to use prince/princess titles.
Their foundation has done some good things, and that's good. It's what they wanted to do and it's making a difference.

I don't understand why people have to be painted into a team on this issue.

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:19

@MamoruHisaishi what would satisfy you? What would he need to do for you to decide he'd done enough to accept responsibility?

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 10:22

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:19

@MamoruHisaishi what would satisfy you? What would he need to do for you to decide he'd done enough to accept responsibility?

Not blame other people in his apologies?

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:24

Has he taken full ownership of his racism by saying that it was due to him and him alone and not because he was unaware of his bias or that he didn't realise it was wrong in the environment he was raised in

Well that would be false if he took full ownership for the way he was raised and the institutional racism that exists in a monarchy guilty of colonialism? I mean, a woman just suffered racism at one of Camilla’s events so you can’t pretend there isn’t an issue. Even Piers Morgan said the royal family had a racism issue. Every single one of us is a product of our environment. He has taken ownership of his part. Did you read his book or what the Netflix series? You would know what he’s done then.

Roussette · 31/03/2023 10:25

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:19

@MamoruHisaishi what would satisfy you? What would he need to do for you to decide he'd done enough to accept responsibility?

Nothing would be enough. Literally nothing. Because then posters would move on to the next heinous act he has to apologise for. Then the next. Then the next.

It would never stop

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:26

It would never stop that’s what he realised after a year of not doing anything public but having endless false stories printed.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:28

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:05

He can talk about comparing killing Afghans to playing a video game

The taliban, to be clear. Are you of the opinion the British army should be dissolved? Because how do you think ordinary men can go and kill anyone, regardless of if it’s the taliban or Russian soldiers, if they aren’t trained to dehumanise the enemy? People need to stop telling veterans they can’t honestly tell their stories. It causes them to carry the burden of what they did as if it was their sole responsibility. They do it in our name remember.

How is his talk of killing and making comparisons to video games or chess supposed to be enlightening? I've read personal stories of soldiers who have fought in wars and did end up killing the opposing soldiers, but there was acknowledgement that regardless of whether they were fighting on the right side of war, in the end they were still killing human beings who had loved ones who grieved for them. They realised they were still killing people who probably thought they were also fighting on the right side of war. Yes he could have talked about having been trained to dehumanize the enemy but I don't see any sense of regret or even a sense of empathy for the human beings that he killed, regardless of whether they deserved it or not. And how does he even know for sure that all the people he killed were all Taliban? It’s not an actual video game where you're assured that whoever you hit or kill is actually an enemy. For all we know, some of the people he killed may been victims themselves, forced to join a war they may not have wanted.

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:32

@Roussette that poster is expressing sympathy for the Taliban and their family so I'm pretty sure you're right.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:32

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:19

@MamoruHisaishi what would satisfy you? What would he need to do for you to decide he'd done enough to accept responsibility?

Please show me what he's actually done to accept responsibility for his own wrongdoings? I have yet to hear him say sorry or to even acknowledge his own privilege.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:35

kirinm · 31/03/2023 10:32

@Roussette that poster is expressing sympathy for the Taliban and their family so I'm pretty sure you're right.

Acknowledging that they are human isn't expressing sympathy. I’m sorry but if ever I was forced to kill someone, even if it was due to self defense, I would be haunted and traumatized by the knowledge that I killed a person, a human being. Only sociopaths and psycopaths wouldn't feel any sense of regret or sadness for killing people, even if they deserved it or not.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:35

@MamoruHisaishi you haven’t actually read his book or listened to the interviews, have you? I can tell. You’ve read the edited tabloid leaks and your entire argument is based on those.

notanotheroneagain · 31/03/2023 10:37

And how does he even know for sure that all the people he killed were all Taliban? It’s not an actual video game where you're assured that whoever you hit or kill is actually an enemy. For all we know, some of the people he killed may been victims themselves, forced to join a war they may not have wanted.

You must have missed the part where soldiers go in for a precise review of who they have killed. Due to technology they watch the kills. Even if it's an energy, they must be reaching for a kill. You don't just go around killing innocents without a court martial afterwards.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:37

I wouldbe haunted and traumatized by the knowledge that I killed a person, a human being. Only sociopaths and psycopaths wouldn't feel any sense of regret or sadness for killing people, even if they deserved it or not.

You have no idea what you’d feel actually, and you’re not a trained soldier. You also clearly haven’t followed a single thing he’s done for veterans or how he’s talked about war. Jfc

And this thread was about Meghan wasn’t it….

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 10:38

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 09:15

I really liked and respected Meghan and her decision to raise her children out of the spotlight.
Then she embarked on The Worldwide Privacy Tour with Harry and that opinion changed.
Now she, at least seems to be, being a bit more low profile and not selling stories to the press to raise that profile so I’m happy to go to a nice, neutral, non opinion of her.

Long may this phase continue.

When they moved to North America in 2020, Meghan was out of the public eye for 18 months. Zero interviews, few if any appearances.

Nevertheless the press about her was frenzied, continuous and grew beyond anything we’d ever seen.

Fact is, this tabloid narrative of her constantly “seeking” attention is fiction.
She does her work, which seems to be professional and impactful, but otherwise stays out of the public eye. It’s the tabloid & sm that keeps droning on about her.

She has never sold stories to the press.

The Netflix doc was clearly needed to tell their side of the story against a tabloid industry whose very business model is undeniably based on vilifying her and Harry.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 10:40

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:35

@MamoruHisaishi you haven’t actually read his book or listened to the interviews, have you? I can tell. You’ve read the edited tabloid leaks and your entire argument is based on those.

I've read enough of his ‘book’ and seen his interviews to know that he does not acknowledge his wrongs without casting blame on others as well. But please do share where he apologized to his family for invading their privacy, and where he acknowledged his own racism without him minimizing it or trying to blame others for it.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 10:44

@MamoruHisaishi no I’m not going to post pages of a book you haven’t read and interviews you haven’t watched. If you’re going to post only on the royal boards and only disparaging Harry, you do your own research. Otherwise you’ll get called out when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
He doesn’t need to apologise to his family for anything. They are the ones who leaked stories about him and his wife. They’ve painted an image of him that he felt wasn’t true and he is entitled to talk about his life, which includes them. Much like Charles has, Diana did, Andrew, many many more. You missed my earlier point clearly too. Everyone discusses their own lives publicly these days and that includes people in it.