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jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:15

Royal threads , well all threads really , on mn tend to meander from one topic to another, it's always the way , sometimes very interesting unrelated information comes up , I quite like it .

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 14:15

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 13:26

By sharing personal info like his family members’ private parts, medical history and making a mockery of their physical appearances, and leaking their conversations, Harry himself has become the tabloid media. He’s become the very thing that he despises.

Nonsense.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 14:16

This is about evidence.

You can’t say there is no evidence, it’s not been presented yet because it hasn’t gone to trial. But there are other claimants and respected legal professionals that I do not think would spend time and money on this if there wasn’t evidence. Yesterday a former police officer’s witness statement gives more weight to the fact this evidence exists
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/queen-medical-records-private-investigator-boasted-kevin-haslam-jonathan-rees-162241786.html

Private investigator boasted he could 'get Queen's medical records', court hears

A former Met Police officer has claimed Jonathan Rees boasted about a range of criminal activities, including accessing the Queen's medical records.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/queen-medical-records-private-investigator-boasted-kevin-haslam-jonathan-rees-162241786.html

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 14:19

skullbabe · 31/03/2023 14:11

Of course it’s free speech - however recall that this was in response to claim that people pushing backing against the relentless negativity were obsessive as opposed to those who seemed to create thread after thread in which to be negative.

I've read enough on this site before I even commented to have seen that those who are pro Harry and Meghan have attacked others for criticizing the couple, to the point that they successfully shut down the criticism, yet have either chosen to ignore or added their own criticisms in posts or threads critical of other royals like the Cambridges.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 14:19

Royal threads , well all threads really , on mn tend to meander from one topic to another, it's always the way , sometimes very interesting unrelated information comes up , I quite like it

Of course that happens a little and is expected, but that’s not what happened on the thread about the hacking case, that was totally derailed with the same claims regarding Harry’s comments on war and his family posted over and over, along with endless memes by a poster that was then removed, only to come back with a new account and do the same which is when you sympathised with them being removed. Did you really enjoy their memes that much? I mean there is a meme thread for that purpose. Elsewhere on MN you cannot derail a thread like that.

michaelmacrae · 31/03/2023 14:19

purpledalmation · 31/03/2023 14:07

so ex journalists cannot change direction or employment? As I said they do not employ journalists they employ people who have changed their employment status.

... but still with their contacts, and influence, and knowledge of the inner workings of the tabloids. Oh, and the same attitudes they would have had when they were tabloid "journalists". Probably why they were hired specifically, and not some other random press person.

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 14:23

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 14:19

Royal threads , well all threads really , on mn tend to meander from one topic to another, it's always the way , sometimes very interesting unrelated information comes up , I quite like it

Of course that happens a little and is expected, but that’s not what happened on the thread about the hacking case, that was totally derailed with the same claims regarding Harry’s comments on war and his family posted over and over, along with endless memes by a poster that was then removed, only to come back with a new account and do the same which is when you sympathised with them being removed. Did you really enjoy their memes that much? I mean there is a meme thread for that purpose. Elsewhere on MN you cannot derail a thread like that.

And yet all you do is hound others and attack them for criticising Harry. Do you even see your own hypocrisy? So what if we mention those things? Who made you the thread police here? Why should we stop talking about Harry? Because you said so? You've made some pretty negative comments about other royals, the audacity.

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:26

Milti was an established poster on the royal topic long before memes were introduced, she got carried away posting them , however as much as I personally find them annoying, I didn't think it warranted a suspension.
Many threads from both sides get derailed by all posters .
No one is innocent or morally above any other poster.
All opinions should be respected.

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:26

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:06

You are irate at anyone who has anything remotely negative to say about H&M.
You claim this is because you hate bullying.

You have written very aggressive things about other people in the public sphere. You have insinuated personal insults at people on this thread. You have overlooked at very clear insults to people on this thread. People on this thread are not public figures. People on this thread are not changing the course of your life yet
this is apparently not bullying in your mind.

My point is, you are hypocritical in your unhealthy obsession in defending M&H.

You are the one who actually sound irate. And very worked up about me if I may say so!

I just have a different opinion to you, and you don't like it.

The only people I have written about aggressively is our Government. Oh, and Trump. Now if you want to personally attack me and berate me for that, go right ahead. But you better get yourself on the politics threads and attack everyone else doing this also. They are politicians and I shall continue to hold them to account if I feel it necessary.

You have insinuated personal insults at people on this thread. You have overlooked at very clear insults to people on this thread

I do not know how many times I have to repeat it, I am not in charge of policing everyone's posts. I am not responsible for whatever everyone on this thread says, however much you would like to hold me to account for that. Oh..and I have insinuated no insults to anyone unless you mean by not policing others I am guilty of that because I didn't stop them posting. Ridiculous!

Can I suggest you concentrate on the subject matter and stop following me round with ridiculous accusations.
It really does you no favours

thebaneofmylifeisacat · 31/03/2023 14:27

I just find Harry snd Meghan intensely irritating and very shallow people. I equally find it so awful that they constantly moan snd whine when they have obviously so very much to be grateful for and in Harry's case literally through no effort on his part just luck.

Just shut the fuck up!

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 14:27

I don’t ‘hound’. I debate. Most people on the site stick to the thread topic. It’s incredibly rude and not in the spirit of the site, to continually go on threads and derail with other topics, MN often delete for this reason. If you do this while people are trying to have a discussion, and they object, that is not hounding.

Whaeanui · 31/03/2023 14:29

All opinions should be respected. I disagree. Everyone’s right to have one should be, but you don’t have to respect everything others say. I certainly don’t respect racist comments for example.

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:32

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:26

You are the one who actually sound irate. And very worked up about me if I may say so!

I just have a different opinion to you, and you don't like it.

The only people I have written about aggressively is our Government. Oh, and Trump. Now if you want to personally attack me and berate me for that, go right ahead. But you better get yourself on the politics threads and attack everyone else doing this also. They are politicians and I shall continue to hold them to account if I feel it necessary.

You have insinuated personal insults at people on this thread. You have overlooked at very clear insults to people on this thread

I do not know how many times I have to repeat it, I am not in charge of policing everyone's posts. I am not responsible for whatever everyone on this thread says, however much you would like to hold me to account for that. Oh..and I have insinuated no insults to anyone unless you mean by not policing others I am guilty of that because I didn't stop them posting. Ridiculous!

Can I suggest you concentrate on the subject matter and stop following me round with ridiculous accusations.
It really does you no favours

You have insinuated, multiple times, that I am stupid. You have twisted and reordered words in sentences I have written in order to suit your narrative and avoid my points. You have then called me stupid for making the points that you created.
Your lack of self awareness is staggering!

I am not berating you for having strong opinions about public figures. Slag off Trump and Johnson and who ever else you want as much as you want. I don’t care.

I do care that you do not show anyone else the same respect and jump on to attack people for voicing negative opinions of M&H on literally every single thread on here that is about them.

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:39

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:32

You have insinuated, multiple times, that I am stupid. You have twisted and reordered words in sentences I have written in order to suit your narrative and avoid my points. You have then called me stupid for making the points that you created.
Your lack of self awareness is staggering!

I am not berating you for having strong opinions about public figures. Slag off Trump and Johnson and who ever else you want as much as you want. I don’t care.

I do care that you do not show anyone else the same respect and jump on to attack people for voicing negative opinions of M&H on literally every single thread on here that is about them.

You are sounding paranoid with a personal vendetta against me. Just stop for goodness sake

I have not called you stupid. I have not insinuated it. Please stop making things up. I just disagree with your views on H&M that's all.

Can we please leave it

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 14:41

MamoruHisaishi · 31/03/2023 14:02

I think it's actually worse because the US media manipulates the people enough so they ignore the class inequality, that it’s harder to move up the ladder because their whole system is designed to benefit the rich instead of the middle or working class.

I think it's actually worse because the US media manipulates the people enough so they ignore the class inequality, that it’s harder to move up the ladder because their whole system is designed to benefit the rich instead of the middle or working class.

Wow. Must be “Opposites Day” 🙃

US media has its problems, sure. But the non-taxpaying billionaire controlled British media is significantly worse in terms of distraction & promotion of class inequality and protecting the billionaire royal family.

Re other comments this afternoon:

  1. Meghan & Harry are immensely popular in the US especially and around the world. All those pitiful contrived little polls dragged out by “friends & relatives of Camilla’s” notwithstanding. 😂

  2. Simply repeating a thing over & over devoid of any basis in reality will not make it true.

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 14:42

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:32

You have insinuated, multiple times, that I am stupid. You have twisted and reordered words in sentences I have written in order to suit your narrative and avoid my points. You have then called me stupid for making the points that you created.
Your lack of self awareness is staggering!

I am not berating you for having strong opinions about public figures. Slag off Trump and Johnson and who ever else you want as much as you want. I don’t care.

I do care that you do not show anyone else the same respect and jump on to attack people for voicing negative opinions of M&H on literally every single thread on here that is about them.

@Roussette has done no such thing.

Time to back off, @GrinAndVomit

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:46

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:39

You are sounding paranoid with a personal vendetta against me. Just stop for goodness sake

I have not called you stupid. I have not insinuated it. Please stop making things up. I just disagree with your views on H&M that's all.

Can we please leave it

OK. You don't understand about the difference between criticising public figures who shape our lives such as politicians and the PM. And the RF.
I can't explain further.

You think this does not imply that I’m stupid? For your reordering and rewording of my point?

And now I’m paranoid and have a personal vendetta?

You are replying to me and I am replying to you. I am disputing what you are saying about me and about other posters. In what world is that a personal vendetta?

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:48

PlanetLuna · 31/03/2023 14:42

@Roussette has done no such thing.

Time to back off, @GrinAndVomit

Excuse me? I have given examples of where she has done this. Why on earth should I back off from a poster who is replying to me by misrepresenting my posts and implying I’m stupid?

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:49

Two posters on this thread from opposing opinions, seem to be making this very uncomfortable and personal.
I thought @MamoruHisaishi thoughts about class in the US very interesting, and don't see how this Takes anything away from posters opinions on class in the U.K.

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:51

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:46

OK. You don't understand about the difference between criticising public figures who shape our lives such as politicians and the PM. And the RF.
I can't explain further.

You think this does not imply that I’m stupid? For your reordering and rewording of my point?

And now I’m paranoid and have a personal vendetta?

You are replying to me and I am replying to you. I am disputing what you are saying about me and about other posters. In what world is that a personal vendetta?

No. I didn't call you stupid. I tried to explain a point again and again and you didn't get it. That is all. I don't think you're stupid and have never said you are. Far from it I'd imagine.

Say what you want, I've given up, I have tried to explain my position and you just want to keep on attacking.

Keep on if you want, I won't read or respond.

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:53

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:49

Two posters on this thread from opposing opinions, seem to be making this very uncomfortable and personal.
I thought @MamoruHisaishi thoughts about class in the US very interesting, and don't see how this Takes anything away from posters opinions on class in the U.K.

Not my intention I can assure you.
Sorry everyone
It's over now as far as I am concerned

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:54

@Roussette , wasn't referring to you! 😉

thebaneofmylifeisacat · 31/03/2023 14:54

As for their popularity in the USA it's very much on the wane now according to half my family who live in Texas and New York

Yesterdays news

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:56

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 14:54

@Roussette , wasn't referring to you! 😉

Ryan Gosling Lol GIF

Hahaha sorry! Oopsie !!!!

GrinAndVomit · 31/03/2023 14:56

Roussette · 31/03/2023 14:51

No. I didn't call you stupid. I tried to explain a point again and again and you didn't get it. That is all. I don't think you're stupid and have never said you are. Far from it I'd imagine.

Say what you want, I've given up, I have tried to explain my position and you just want to keep on attacking.

Keep on if you want, I won't read or respond.

You reordered and completely misrepresented what I wrote! Surely I’m allowed to say something about that.

Am I allowed to reply to you when you @ me or not? What are the rules here? Because these M&H threads seem to go in a very similar pattern.