Charles too busy to see Harry

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Really...?

He has had his State visit to France cancelled, so two days freed up.

Some families do not learn.

In Spare, Harry describes how his father used to gently tickle his face until he fell asleep. When he left the room he'd leave the door open because Harry didn't like the dark. He was called "dear boy" by his father.

In June 2021 Hello mag wrote a very personal story on how Diana gave birth to William.

And stories about the Royal Family and it’s tradition of circumcision are all over the internet.

I wonder how Harry would like his own relative’s private medical information being disclosed by someone else in a book to make money - his children perhaps - or Meghan ? Just to ‘correct a press narrative’ of course

I’m wondering if you’ve read the book? O

I know that he said Charles wasn't cut out for parenthood but did his best. The story about staying with him while he fell asleep isn't the action of someone uncaring. It would have been easy to get a nanny or other help to do the job of helping him fall asleep.

Harrys book to me at least, shows he and his father loved each other and his father could be very kind to him. It also showed that Charles is always going to be torn between family and fatherhood, and his role in Britain. Sweet names are all well and good but there is more to fatherhood and Charles lets him down in other areas. It’s a sad tale really. I don’t think it’s fair to call Charles uncaring and it’s not the impression Harry has given of him in the book at all.

I'd say father and son are fine. They communicate outside the Press gossip bubble. Each knows that it's all optics and otherwise the RF would be a crashingly boring entity.

I don't believe any of the stuff being talked about. Harry is in the US enjoying the lovely climate, William is trying to decide which of his many houses to live in, Anne is grooming her horses and seeing her husband now and again for a look at some lighthouses, and Eddie is donating all his double breasted suits which are now far too big for him to charity.

If gossip and innuendo didn't exist the RF would not be worth our money that supports them.

Well said @RosesInWater

So? Harry didn’t need to compound the stories by putting it in his book. He has repeated the story he was complaining about. He could have referred to “things of a personal nature” or the like.

I was in my 20s when William and Harry were born. These stories might have been mentioned, I don't remember. Which is sort of the point. They're gone from memory and because it was before the Internet, it never gets brought up. Til Harry brings it up.
Harry can talk about his own information. If he's happy to be mocked about it, that's his business. But he has no right to dredge things up about William. He doesn't get to say that his children's lives should stay private while outing his brothers privacy.
Imagine if HR released an employee's private medical information to the rest of company's without that employee's permission to correct false rumours going round the office. That would be roundly condemned as inappropriate. I don't see any difference.

When he talks about other people's personal information in this way he is being a toxic bully. I do hope he can gain the maturity and perspective he needs one day to understand that hebis both a victim and a victimiser.

This about sums it up.

Agree. He's a disgrace and if he were my son I wouldn't see him either.

I find that Harry is often very black and white about things so I respect his nuanced approach to describing his father in the book. I think a lot of people have good and bad things to say about their parents which makes me think that this topic is likely to be accurate and not tainted by his problem with recollecting things.

Sometimes close family members are so toxic you have to keep them at arms length.

Harry needs his family connections more than his family needs him.

I agree. His Oprah interview with the accusations of racism were right before the Duke of Edinburgh died. Harry’s claim that it was due to the press, and not true (after accepting an award for said remarks) only came after HMTQ had died. To have that accusation during the Queen’s final year is unforgivable. I’m not at all surprised that his family aren’t too keen to see him again any time soon.

To be subject to racism and not have your family speak out about it, while employing someone from the organisation that engaged in it, is unforgivable.

I did a Google search all the press seemed to say at the time was the Palace had never confirmed or denied if William and Harry were circumcised.

Back in the day there were reports that Charles had been done by x doctor on y date. 😳

TBH I didn't know it was a Royal tradition and given Diana / Charles never allowed the information to be released he's blown the information for William and has another generation or two wondering what other Royal boys have been snipped.

Harry subjected soldiers to his racism.

I can't imagine anyone being dumb enough to talk to Harry about anything deeper than the weather. He has no boundaries, everything said to him is fodder for interviews or books, with no regard for accuracy (just 'His' truth). So yeah...can't imagine anyone in the family is bouncing up and down with joy at the thought of a impromptu visit with him and chat.

I’m sure he could find something about the weather than is the ‘Institution’s’ fault!

Well to be fair, it is very rainy in the UK and has been for a very long time. And what else has been around for a very long time? The monarchy. Inevitable conclusion for Harry.

Agree. He's a disgrace and if he were my son I wouldn't see him either.

I absolutely would see my son. Life is precarious.

Every time I say goodbye to my adult children when they leave I say ‘I love you.’

These stories might have been mentioned, I don't remember. Which is sort of the point. They're gone from memory and because it was before the Internet, it never gets brought up.

From ‘my research’ yesterday evening the newspapers broached the subject of the tradition of circumcision and the Royal Family again in 2013 - when George was born.

This.

Why should anyone subject themselves to his disloyalty and treachery?