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runner2023 · 2023-03-28T08:18:08+00:00

Really...? He has had his State visit to France cancelled, so two days freed up. Some families do not learn.

Whaeanui · 02/04/2023 19:35

One thing is illegal, the other is not.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/04/2023 19:38

Doesn't make it any less horrible for those involved though, does it. I think the betrayal is actually worse - tabloid hacks, scum of the earth and everyone knows it, but imagine a member of your own family recounting private stuff to every man and his dog.

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:44

MarshaMelrose · 02/04/2023 17:52

What he's saying is that he gave evidence against NGN. A paralegal has cut and paste the evidence he gave about that case, I guess making it sound like he did it for ANL. They then put his signature on it electronically.
He says he never made that statement and he never signed it. He says for a statement of that magnitude, he would have signed it in person. Plus he can prove he was not available to sign the document on that day - which would be a bit of a coincidence. 😏

On his website he says he's assisted Elton John, Liz Hurley, Prince Harry, Simon Hughes amongst many others. And he's got ongoing cases in 2023. Would it be this one?

It all has a stinky smell of poo about it. I can't wait for the case to start - if it does.

Yes, something so not right about the whole thing.

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:48

@Roussette For crying out loud, Charles is a king. Of course he is going to travel at lot. Talk about stating the bleeding obvious. Harry (of his own volition) is a private citizen

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:51

Roussette · 02/04/2023 18:13

What hypocrisy? Leaving aside the ridiculous plane thing.

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Errr don't you think its hypocritical that harry is in court trying to hold newspapers to account for breaching his privacy, when he and his DW have spent the last two years blowing the privacy of his family, his first lover and her family, out of the water.

Dear God, you walked straight into that one.

Roussette · 02/04/2023 19:52

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:48

@Roussette For crying out loud, Charles is a king. Of course he is going to travel at lot. Talk about stating the bleeding obvious. Harry (of his own volition) is a private citizen

And he can take a commercial flight if he wants to.

Roussette · 02/04/2023 19:53

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:51

Errr don't you think its hypocritical that harry is in court trying to hold newspapers to account for breaching his privacy, when he and his DW have spent the last two years blowing the privacy of his family, his first lover and her family, out of the water.

Dear God, you walked straight into that one.

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I walked into nothing. He wrote a book about his life.

Have you read it? All the way through?

HeddaGarbled · 02/04/2023 20:06

One of these discussions is really interesting and enlightening. The other is tiresome. Could the pair of you shut up for half an hour?

Cokefans · 02/04/2023 20:16

H and M only get a private plane if someone else is funding it - maybe nobody offered them a freebie this time

MarshaMelrose · 02/04/2023 20:39

Whaeanui · 02/04/2023 19:35

One thing is illegal, the other is not.

I don't understand this argument. It might not be illegal but revealing the medical information of someone else is just wrong. And although it might not be illegal now, it could become so. Or did you think revenge porn was ok before it got made illegal? The law sometimes takes time to catch up with technology.

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 20:40

HeddaGarbled · 02/04/2023 20:06

One of these discussions is really interesting and enlightening. The other is tiresome. Could the pair of you shut up for half an hour?

I hope you don't mean me as I am trying to put facts and keep getting pulled up over stupidities. please see my posts before the constant derailments. I do need to ignore a couple of intensly annoying people though!

Snorlaxing · 02/04/2023 20:48

purpledalmation · 02/04/2023 19:44

Yes, something so not right about the whole thing.

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Totally agree.
It sounds like GB can't help the claimants with this case but will be a helpful witness when the case against other papers like The Sun start.

Snorlaxing · 02/04/2023 20:56

I'm also curious if the person named as the person who "copy and pasted" will sue or face legal consequences.

rattymol · 03/04/2023 03:59

Charles is a remote and uncaring father. I am not surprised he hasn't made any time for a quick catch up with his son.

Sugarfree23 · 03/04/2023 04:19

rattymol · 03/04/2023 03:59

Charles is a remote and uncaring father. I am not surprised he hasn't made any time for a quick catch up with his son.

How do you know he is remote and uncaring? He certainly didn't look remote or uncaring at the jubilee when he let his public professional face slip and little Lewis sat on his knee.

Maybe he still loves his son but doesn't trust him? Wants to be low contact.
It's perfectly acceptable elsewhere on MN to be low contact or no contact with family who don't respect your boundaries.

Harry can't expect to go on international telly moan to Oprah about the Royal Family ie his Gran, Dad and Brother. Then write a book telling tales. And still expected to be welcomed with open arms.

MamoruHisaishi · 03/04/2023 05:20

Coxspurplepippin · 02/04/2023 19:22

'is not the same as writing a book about your life, which thousands do, and including conversations you participated in.'

Do you think Harry discussed William's circumcision and baldness with his brother, or do you think he just wrote about it in his book regardless. What actual part in Harry's life did those two things play? What about their private conversations invoking their mother's memory? Ripe for publication? It's little wonder no-one appears to be interested in speaking to him beyond the state of the weather and what they had for breakfast.

Yup exactly. Not sure how Harry’s defenders can justify this, even if what he did is legal, morally speaking it conveys a sense of hypocrisy for him to discuss other people’s private parts and physical appearances without their consent. How are those two things relevant to Harry’s life? And to mention his brother’s two kids in an interview is just so shameful, what gave him the right to decide what’s best for his nephew and niece when they have their own parents who would know what’s best for them? Why doesn’t he just focus on his own kids , oh that’s right, he has no issues tying them to the institution that caused him so much pain and suffering because it’s their birth right. It’s obvious it’s not the idea of monarchy that he has an issue with, it’s the fact that he was born the spare instead of the heir.

MamoruHisaishi · 03/04/2023 05:27

Roussette · 02/04/2023 13:13

Good for him. He made sure the case was front pages. Except in the DM of course who tried to ignore the whole thing.

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He sure did. He made sure to include and to blame the Royal Family (once again) in his statement, and the focus became all about his issue with the royal family instead of the claimants battle with ANL.

MamoruHisaishi · 03/04/2023 05:37

BellePeppa · 02/04/2023 15:52

When he does smile though there seems to be an unpleasantness around it, I’m thinking specifically at times when he feels he’s ‘got one over’ on people, eg when he said they didn’t say the RF was racist the press did - he gave this smug smirk I’ve seen him do on a number of occasions. He does of course smile very brightly for the cameras (as clearly seen going to the UK court, despite the trauma it causes him and when his wife’s not with him - I think that’s when he shows his most genuine smiles 😄

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“every single time I see a camera, every single time I hear a click, every single time I see a flash, it takes me straight back.
“So in that respect, it’s the worst reminder of her life as opposed to the best,” he told Bradby.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/18/europe/harry-camera-flash-gbr-scli-intl/index.html

Prince Harry says every camera flash takes him back to Diana's death | CNN

Prince Harry has said that every camera flash takes him "straight back" to the death of his mother, Princess Diana, in 1997.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/18/europe/harry-camera-flash-gbr-scli-intl/index.html

magicthree · 03/04/2023 05:43

rattymol · 03/04/2023 03:59

Charles is a remote and uncaring father. I am not surprised he hasn't made any time for a quick catch up with his son.

I wasn't aware we had people who were so intimate with the RF on MN. Or, could it possibly be that you are talking about something you really have no idea about.

Whaeanui · 03/04/2023 06:40

the Royal Family (once again) in his statement

No he didn’t. He said the people who take care of these sorts of things for the royal family, which he would refer to as the institution. Reporting on this said ‘royal family’, but the witness statement did not.

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:22

It might not be illegal but revealing the medical information of someone else is just wrong.

I’ve seen this accusation over and over again by a number of posters , and finally decided to ‘do my research’ lol.

I haven’t read Harry’s book yet, but I’ve looked at about 5 sources who all have the same excerpt in regard to Harry and William’s penises. Harry wrote that when they were little there were many media reports about their penises, and it was that it was reported that they had not been circumcised due to Diana’s insistence that they not be: The point he was making is that this was not the case, reports were incorrect/made up , and that he was circumcised. That was all there was in regards to William’s penis. And their circumcision (or not) was the subject of many media stories.

So if that’s all he wrote re William and his ‘medical info’,, he was just correcting the incorrect reports/articles. Which the media published multiple times when they were very little children.

Is that all he wrote in that regard, or is there more about William’s medical info?

if that’s all, wth was the media doing publishing any articles on the little boys private bits? That’s the shameful, invasive bit.

smilesy · 03/04/2023 08:32

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:22

It might not be illegal but revealing the medical information of someone else is just wrong.

I’ve seen this accusation over and over again by a number of posters , and finally decided to ‘do my research’ lol.

I haven’t read Harry’s book yet, but I’ve looked at about 5 sources who all have the same excerpt in regard to Harry and William’s penises. Harry wrote that when they were little there were many media reports about their penises, and it was that it was reported that they had not been circumcised due to Diana’s insistence that they not be: The point he was making is that this was not the case, reports were incorrect/made up , and that he was circumcised. That was all there was in regards to William’s penis. And their circumcision (or not) was the subject of many media stories.

So if that’s all he wrote re William and his ‘medical info’,, he was just correcting the incorrect reports/articles. Which the media published multiple times when they were very little children.

Is that all he wrote in that regard, or is there more about William’s medical info?

if that’s all, wth was the media doing publishing any articles on the little boys private bits? That’s the shameful, invasive bit.

I don’t remember seeing any media reports about their penises (although that doesn’t mean there weren’t any) and even if there were, did Harry actually need to mention this? Couldn’t he have said there were media reports about their “private medical histories”? Surely mentioning it in detail again when they are adults is not the correct thing to do? Did he really need to remind the world of a detail that many would have not known about in the first place? It is really the minute details about others that he has seen fit to include in his book, but that have no relevance to his life story that make him
seem hypocritical. And obviously, it is those rather salacious bits that have made the headlines.

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:48

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:22

It might not be illegal but revealing the medical information of someone else is just wrong.

I’ve seen this accusation over and over again by a number of posters , and finally decided to ‘do my research’ lol.

I haven’t read Harry’s book yet, but I’ve looked at about 5 sources who all have the same excerpt in regard to Harry and William’s penises. Harry wrote that when they were little there were many media reports about their penises, and it was that it was reported that they had not been circumcised due to Diana’s insistence that they not be: The point he was making is that this was not the case, reports were incorrect/made up , and that he was circumcised. That was all there was in regards to William’s penis. And their circumcision (or not) was the subject of many media stories.

So if that’s all he wrote re William and his ‘medical info’,, he was just correcting the incorrect reports/articles. Which the media published multiple times when they were very little children.

Is that all he wrote in that regard, or is there more about William’s medical info?

if that’s all, wth was the media doing publishing any articles on the little boys private bits? That’s the shameful, invasive bit.

Whoops!

I wrote: ‘So if that’s all he wrote re William and his ‘medical info’,

I should have written: ‘So if that’s all he wrote regarding William’s medical info.’

(I know Harry wrote more about his own frozen penis).

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:57

The relevance of the circumcision story was that the media reported something that wasn’t true about him. And that this misreporting/ made up/ inaccuracies started very early in his life. imo.

I think it is highly likely that the media did make these erroneous reports. This was a time when circumcising little boys was being frowned upon and discouraged: so yeah, they’d make a headline of anything, and tying it into something that has current social relevance is often how the media write stories.

smilesy · 03/04/2023 09:08

Morestrangerthings · 03/04/2023 08:57

The relevance of the circumcision story was that the media reported something that wasn’t true about him. And that this misreporting/ made up/ inaccuracies started very early in his life. imo.

I think it is highly likely that the media did make these erroneous reports. This was a time when circumcising little boys was being frowned upon and discouraged: so yeah, they’d make a headline of anything, and tying it into something that has current social relevance is often how the media write stories.

But he didn’t need to re-state the details. He could have said they “revealed private medical information about two small boys”. Just because the papers may have done it in the past, doesn’t make it necessary for Harry to repeat it in all its glory