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Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

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Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:14

You can't say that is occurring on this thread can you?

Yes, anybody who disagrees has received a load of crap from one poster in particular who has posted non stop'.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:16

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 17:10

First of all, you can criticise someone without describing them as lazy. This may or may not lead to anything yet as this hasn't even been settled yet, but its already becoming all about harry and his fight with the royal family at least to the media in my country. Not sure how this is supposed to be a good thing for this case.

It is lazy thinking and I don’t see the problem in being straight talking about this.

Is this back and forth discussion between folks who have been having such debates for a long time?

I probably don’t belong on here, especially if people can’t handle being told that their very clearly lazy, non-critical thinking approach is lazy and lacking in critical thinking.

What would you like to hear that doesn’t make you feel like a victim? The thing one of you say Harry is making himself out to be?

Are you a victim of me hurting your feelings by labelling some of the thinking here as lazy.

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:17

For all the comments about kindness and positivity, there is a lot of negative energy (and contradictions) emanating from one or two users.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:19

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:14

You can't say that is occurring on this thread can you?

Yes, anybody who disagrees has received a load of crap from one poster in particular who has posted non stop'.

Absolute bullshit. This thread has been inundated with basically... a load of crap. New ways of insulting Harry, post after post after post about his bald head and pubic hair, memes taking over just to derail conversation.

Yes there have been posters who I don't agree with who have come out with valid points, I read their posts carefully, but they are few and far between.
There is also unintelligible rudeness by those who are incensed that Harry must just have a point.

p.s. a poster can post as many times as they like on a thread. Every other post if they want.
However, accusing posters as you have just done, of being paid PR to post, is actually against TG.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:19

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:14

You can't say that is occurring on this thread can you?

Yes, anybody who disagrees has received a load of crap from one poster in particular who has posted non stop'.

But you also post non stop on some threads - lots of us do.
I agree with your comment about the drivel, maybe the teenage meme queens will take note. Or you don't mind those posts because they are not really bullying are they?

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:20

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:17

For all the comments about kindness and positivity, there is a lot of negative energy (and contradictions) emanating from one or two users.

You just don't like their opinion. You disagree with it.

That's it.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:20

This thread is wild!!!!!

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:20

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:17

For all the comments about kindness and positivity, there is a lot of negative energy (and contradictions) emanating from one or two users.

Honestly, this coming from you!

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:20

Memes? It depends on your age I suppose. I do not have an issue with posters using memes instead of writing out replies. That poster was also attacked when they hadn't actually typed anything.

purpledalmation · 29/03/2023 17:23

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 12:20

BBC: “Prince Harry said the Royal Family - which he referred to as the Institution” ( inaccurate )

NBC: “[Harry] also alleges that those who handle the royal family's interests, referred to as the Institution” ( his statement )

I thought this important to note, for clarity. It seems uk media are hellbent on creating a narrative that he is attacking ‘family’. He’s not.

Well the king is the head of that institution so what about the buck stops here? Harry has frequently said his family leaked stories to the press about him. He has criticised charles, william, kate and the entire staff.

If he is blaming them all for witholding this information from him (i'm sure to protect his mental health) how about acknowledging all the squashed stories of his drunken, druggy behaviour by his family/institution?

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 17:24

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:00

You are making a carnival show. The very able people inside the Court isn’t. Don’t assume the majority of folk are seeing things the way you are. I see a media trying to hide its crimes by discrediting Harry and trying, by its coverage, to distract with its comedy show. Serious minded people inside and outside the Court are neither gullible nor drunk in Royal Family drama.

Have they even been proven to have committed these crimes though? As far as I'm aware this is just the hearings and nothing has been proven or settled yet. As distasteful this may be to you, but shouldn't there be a presumption of innocence instead of the other way around? If it's proven that they did act illegally then by all means they should go bankrupt/get shut down like with news of the world. And no the media doesn't need to discredit harry, he does it himself through his own words and actions.

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:25

I appreciate posters like Milti who use humour to diffuse situations. Constantly maintaining attack mode doesn't boost one's credibility.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:25

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:20

Memes? It depends on your age I suppose. I do not have an issue with posters using memes instead of writing out replies. That poster was also attacked when they hadn't actually typed anything.

How is a pathetic meme of Harry in a dress 'a reply' ???

Do tell me. Because it is beyond me. I know memes. I use memes appropriately. But not to derail

Bluespecsandshoes · 29/03/2023 17:26

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 16:01

The guy was 27. He was in the army not on royal duties. He can read. He can watch TV. But even if he was out meeting vets, he still got evenings and weekends off. At 27, I worked full time, plus obligatory overtime, had my own house which I was doing up myself, and on top of that I had to keep up with legal changes to do with my work in my own time. And I still managed to read the newspaper, and watch telly to know what was going on in the world. You're telling me that Harry couldn't manage to do that? That he needed someone to read the papers for him? Are you honestly suggesting that he'd never heard of phone hacking. That he wouldn't think it was journalists hacking his phone? If so, I don't see how you're doing him any favours in the intelligence dept.

Yep, journalists behave horribly.

He made overtures to the RF to get an apology. He's been quite explicit in his interviews over his book, that until they apologise, nothing can be repaired. Zippo self-awareness that he might need to apologise, though.

Faustian pacts! 🙄 I think if there were Faustian pacts, Tampongate would never have seen the light of day. That alone tells me there are no pacts.

I have no problem with any individual, including Harry, suing for having their privacy invaded. And if a paper or individual is found guilty of it, they deserve punishing. Honestly, it's disgusting. In fact, it's as disgusting as revealing your family's private medical issues.

But none of these people are doing it for the benefit of the British people. That's just laughable. I support their right to do it, but none if them are doing it for either my or your benefit. They're doing it for themselves. I.dont condemn them for that. But let's not make it into some noble campaign they're carrying out. 😂

Well if he was serving at the time that is an even better reason why he was not focusing on chasing journalistic sources!

And of course I wasn’t suggesting that he’d never heard of phone hacking, just that he probably thought it didn’t apply to him as he was, as a pp said, very popular at the time.

Of course there are Faustian pacts made between the RF and the tabloids, with certain journalists and broadcasters favoured over others. That is how the whole shebang operates! As Roussette said, they have a symbiotic relationship.

And the question at the very heart of this case is whether one of these media organisations that is so powerful and influential, with such boundless resources, thinks it can act above the law?

Tampon-gate is an interesting one! It certainly does not disprove the existence of Faustian pacts which, by definition, end badly. Remember that the men in grey suits were working for different masters then and it was said that the Queen very much disapproved of Charles’s relationship with Camilla, especially when it reached her through the ranks that she was the wife of a cavalry officer. Famously, the Queen refused to attend functions where Camilla was present, for many years.

And lastly does it really matter what the intentions are of each individual bringing this case? I didn’t say they were doing it for the British people as a whole. I said they were brave to stand up to such a powerful organisation whose stock in trade is destroying reputations. They could have a variety of reasons between them for acting as they are. Collectively though, if they can prove their case, I’ve no doubt the UK as a whole will benefit, as the Mail Group would be forced to loosen its stranglehold on our national life.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:27

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 17:24

Have they even been proven to have committed these crimes though? As far as I'm aware this is just the hearings and nothing has been proven or settled yet. As distasteful this may be to you, but shouldn't there be a presumption of innocence instead of the other way around? If it's proven that they did act illegally then by all means they should go bankrupt/get shut down like with news of the world. And no the media doesn't need to discredit harry, he does it himself through his own words and actions.

Exactly. If it proceeds to court and ANL found guilty then fine, at the moment with one witness saying he wasn't involved I find the pitch fork waving a tad premature.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:29

As an aside nice to see Charles and Camilla well received in Germany. They do class and dignity very well don't they.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:29

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:25

I appreciate posters like Milti who use humour to diffuse situations. Constantly maintaining attack mode doesn't boost one's credibility.

I'm sure you do. They are not the only one as you probably know. Humour to you maybe bullying or attacking to others.

I think it's childish and a waste of a post but if that's how they communicate that's fine - I wouldn't even report as bullying as I prefer them to be their for all to see and make up their own mind.

Bluespecsandshoes · 29/03/2023 17:30

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:27

Exactly. If it proceeds to court and ANL found guilty then fine, at the moment with one witness saying he wasn't involved I find the pitch fork waving a tad premature.

We’ll see. Even if they lose the case, it will have been a very useful exercise in making ANL watch its step.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:30

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:29

As an aside nice to see Charles and Camilla well received in Germany. They do class and dignity very well don't they.

Why wouldn't you just start a new thread?

VixenTodd · 29/03/2023 17:30

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MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 17:34

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:16

It is lazy thinking and I don’t see the problem in being straight talking about this.

Is this back and forth discussion between folks who have been having such debates for a long time?

I probably don’t belong on here, especially if people can’t handle being told that their very clearly lazy, non-critical thinking approach is lazy and lacking in critical thinking.

What would you like to hear that doesn’t make you feel like a victim? The thing one of you say Harry is making himself out to be?

Are you a victim of me hurting your feelings by labelling some of the thinking here as lazy.

Yes because all you say is lazy lazy lazy. Tell me why is this lazy thinking when this is only the hearings, this is to do with phone hackings from years ago and if it turns out that this ANL was proven to have done this, how will this affect the rest of the public when there was already an enquiry about this issue years ago. This isn't new. Please do explain how this case will somehow reinvent the wheel? If this case brings the victims justice I’m all for it, but this isn't something that would impact all of us and the fabric of society. Not when there's actual serious issues of foreign governments hacking peoples information, or websites obtaining peoples information and sharing them to third parties, not when there's a spread of propaganda and misinformation being spread by various groups and governments. Those are all things that have a greater impact on us. It seems like you're just upset because I don't like harry? Sorry for that but not liking him doesn't make me lazy.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:34

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:30

Why wouldn't you just start a new thread?

Cba just thought I'd comment here as we are talking about his son, there is a connection you know.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:35

Bluespecsandshoes · 29/03/2023 17:30

We’ll see. Even if they lose the case, it will have been a very useful exercise in making ANL watch its step.

I'm sure they watch their step as it is. I believe these are mostly old claims.

VixenTodd · 29/03/2023 17:40

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TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 17:41

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 17:29

As an aside nice to see Charles and Camilla well received in Germany. They do class and dignity very well don't they.

Oh aye, shagging behind their spouses backs, very dignified

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