Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

1000 replies

vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

OP posts:
Thread gallery
29
MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:31

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 16:01

The guy was 27. He was in the army not on royal duties. He can read. He can watch TV. But even if he was out meeting vets, he still got evenings and weekends off. At 27, I worked full time, plus obligatory overtime, had my own house which I was doing up myself, and on top of that I had to keep up with legal changes to do with my work in my own time. And I still managed to read the newspaper, and watch telly to know what was going on in the world. You're telling me that Harry couldn't manage to do that? That he needed someone to read the papers for him? Are you honestly suggesting that he'd never heard of phone hacking. That he wouldn't think it was journalists hacking his phone? If so, I don't see how you're doing him any favours in the intelligence dept.

Yep, journalists behave horribly.

He made overtures to the RF to get an apology. He's been quite explicit in his interviews over his book, that until they apologise, nothing can be repaired. Zippo self-awareness that he might need to apologise, though.

Faustian pacts! 🙄 I think if there were Faustian pacts, Tampongate would never have seen the light of day. That alone tells me there are no pacts.

I have no problem with any individual, including Harry, suing for having their privacy invaded. And if a paper or individual is found guilty of it, they deserve punishing. Honestly, it's disgusting. In fact, it's as disgusting as revealing your family's private medical issues.

But none of these people are doing it for the benefit of the British people. That's just laughable. I support their right to do it, but none if them are doing it for either my or your benefit. They're doing it for themselves. I.dont condemn them for that. But let's not make it into some noble campaign they're carrying out. 😂

The ironic thing is back then, it was Harry who mostly got good press, the one whose image was crafted (by the royal family) as a likeable funny soldier hero. It was the royal family who hired Edward lane fox to make harry more appealing to the public and it worked. So yes the royal family did manipulate, but it was to manipulate the public to conceal the nature of who harry was. His racist tirades, his alcoholic binges and nazi wearing costume (who he indirectly blamed william and Catherine for making him wear it), not to mention his sexist and boorish behaviour were all conveniently forgotten or swept under the rug thanks to the institution. Of course, Harry has no issues when he gets good press, but is outraged when negative stories about him gets leaked. He has no issues leaking private info about his family, and then makes accusations about other members of his family. And yes, this expectation that other people should be doing things for him when he's old enough to do it himself is the same issue that goes back to his case on security. Why did he expect the royal family to convey to the home office that he was willing to pay for his security? Why didn't he inform them directly?

Howsimplywonderful · 29/03/2023 16:32

According to posters - he’s a man child who can’t google or be held accountable for his actions but in the same breath he’s a superhero defending us mere mortals from an evil cabal which is all linked back to Camilla . And if he does something it’s good, but if anyone else does the exact same thing - it’s bad.

And he is the only one capable of telling us the truth

It’s the Trumpian way.

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:32

@Roussette where did I invalidate his presence at the court case? I said I hoped they all win

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:35

Howsimplywonderful · 29/03/2023 16:32

According to posters - he’s a man child who can’t google or be held accountable for his actions but in the same breath he’s a superhero defending us mere mortals from an evil cabal which is all linked back to Camilla . And if he does something it’s good, but if anyone else does the exact same thing - it’s bad.

And he is the only one capable of telling us the truth

It’s the Trumpian way.

Now THATS a man with dodgy hair

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2023 16:36

I barely see any photos of the couple doing their day to day activities, so not sure where all this press invasion is coming from

Despite several unproved claims, the use of other people's crowd shots and the pointing out of windows at nothing, it's true that the pap activitiy seems far less than it was in earlier days - and thank god for that

So it appears his claimed press intrusion may be more about what some write (though only if it doesn't suit) and now the issues in the current case, which seems worth watching for everyone's sake and not just Harry's

It's also true that any drawing of attention to this may be no bad thing - it's just that I wish there was less attention on a witness who's been shown to be so thoroughly unreliable

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:36

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:32

@Roussette where did I invalidate his presence at the court case? I said I hoped they all win

I said that in reply to someone else? I am talking in general about the thread an those that are incensed that he's even in court.

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:37

@Roussette apologies, I thought it was in reply to me

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:38

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:37

@Roussette apologies, I thought it was in reply to me

No worries TaLooLa Smile

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:45

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:29

I don't understand it either. But what I don't understand the constant undermining of him to invalidate his presence at this court case. Weird weird weird.

FFS someone brought up about him riding his bicycle at 5 years old! We've had the Army, Uni, school, every single bit of him growing up. All designed to scrub him off from this court case. To demean him being there. To eradicate him.

He is entitled to be there. It is a good thing he is doing. Along with all the other claimants.

I mentioned it because another poster said/implied that the royal family hid information from harry and worked with the media against him, when there is no such evidence apart from Harry’s own words. I questioned why we should believe him when he himself admits that his memory isn't great and his mention of the bike riding incident shows what an unreliable narrator he is. Either that or hes just plain lying. There is literally photo evidence of him riding a bike with his dad and his own statement says he never got to experience that when he was young. I think that is relevant to this case, because he is accusing the institution/royal family once again of withholding information from him and blaming them for not being able to speak out earlier, when his own brother took the initiative to inform the police of the phone hackings from another news company. He is making all these accusations but how do we know that he is telling the truth or that his word can be trusted or believed?

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:48

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:45

I mentioned it because another poster said/implied that the royal family hid information from harry and worked with the media against him, when there is no such evidence apart from Harry’s own words. I questioned why we should believe him when he himself admits that his memory isn't great and his mention of the bike riding incident shows what an unreliable narrator he is. Either that or hes just plain lying. There is literally photo evidence of him riding a bike with his dad and his own statement says he never got to experience that when he was young. I think that is relevant to this case, because he is accusing the institution/royal family once again of withholding information from him and blaming them for not being able to speak out earlier, when his own brother took the initiative to inform the police of the phone hackings from another news company. He is making all these accusations but how do we know that he is telling the truth or that his word can be trusted or believed?

You wouldn't trust a word he says. Nothing. You don't want him there.

The institution protects the institution.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:50

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2023 16:36

I barely see any photos of the couple doing their day to day activities, so not sure where all this press invasion is coming from

Despite several unproved claims, the use of other people's crowd shots and the pointing out of windows at nothing, it's true that the pap activitiy seems far less than it was in earlier days - and thank god for that

So it appears his claimed press intrusion may be more about what some write (though only if it doesn't suit) and now the issues in the current case, which seems worth watching for everyone's sake and not just Harry's

It's also true that any drawing of attention to this may be no bad thing - it's just that I wish there was less attention on a witness who's been shown to be so thoroughly unreliable

Yes exactly. Its a shame that he has now become the face of this case when there are other claimants who don't have the problematic issues that harry has. Even if Harry's claims are legitimate, it's hard to separate them from his own controversies as this issue of invading ones privacy is exactly what he did to his own family.

derxa · 29/03/2023 16:52

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:29

I don't understand it either. But what I don't understand the constant undermining of him to invalidate his presence at this court case. Weird weird weird.

FFS someone brought up about him riding his bicycle at 5 years old! We've had the Army, Uni, school, every single bit of him growing up. All designed to scrub him off from this court case. To demean him being there. To eradicate him.

He is entitled to be there. It is a good thing he is doing. Along with all the other claimants.

I'm not talking about the court case. I'm referring to years of Harry threads. And yes I spelled 'weird' wrongly.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 16:55

Is it hard to separate them from other stuff about Harry? Not to me and many others. It is a very lazy person, who is unwilling to engage the barest of critical thinking, who would struggle to separate the media childish soap opera with Harry and the Royal Family from this really important issue that impacts all of us and the very fabric of our society.

I have zero problem separating the two and I’m sure I’m not alone.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:56

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:48

You wouldn't trust a word he says. Nothing. You don't want him there.

The institution protects the institution.

I believe he is a distraction to the case yes because its becoming more like a carnival show due to his involvement than a serious matter of invading someones privacy and obtaining information via illegal means. And yes this same institution that harry desperately wants to attach himself and his children to have protected him in the past, otherwise we wouldn't have had the image of the happy go lucky and easy going Harry that the public was led to believe. And yes I wouldn't trust a word he says because he's proven himself to be a liar (whether deliberate or due to poor memory).

Howsimplywonderful · 29/03/2023 16:59

We’ve been here before except ‘the institution’ was known as ‘the swamp’ and plenty of people swallowed everything Trump told them too, many still do 🤷‍♀️ even when his actions and the evidence were at odds with Trumps words

Harry will probably be telling the gullible to
march on Buckingham Palace in a fit of pique

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:00

derxa · 29/03/2023 16:52

I'm not talking about the court case. I'm referring to years of Harry threads. And yes I spelled 'weird' wrongly.

Don't care about the spelling!

I thought you meant the court case as you were on this thread!

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:00

You are making a carnival show. The very able people inside the Court isn’t. Don’t assume the majority of folk are seeing things the way you are. I see a media trying to hide its crimes by discrediting Harry and trying, by its coverage, to distract with its comedy show. Serious minded people inside and outside the Court are neither gullible nor drunk in Royal Family drama.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 17:00

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:31

The ironic thing is back then, it was Harry who mostly got good press, the one whose image was crafted (by the royal family) as a likeable funny soldier hero. It was the royal family who hired Edward lane fox to make harry more appealing to the public and it worked. So yes the royal family did manipulate, but it was to manipulate the public to conceal the nature of who harry was. His racist tirades, his alcoholic binges and nazi wearing costume (who he indirectly blamed william and Catherine for making him wear it), not to mention his sexist and boorish behaviour were all conveniently forgotten or swept under the rug thanks to the institution. Of course, Harry has no issues when he gets good press, but is outraged when negative stories about him gets leaked. He has no issues leaking private info about his family, and then makes accusations about other members of his family. And yes, this expectation that other people should be doing things for him when he's old enough to do it himself is the same issue that goes back to his case on security. Why did he expect the royal family to convey to the home office that he was willing to pay for his security? Why didn't he inform them directly?

Just more nonsensical tabloid-fueled drivel. Lies and hate.

Keep trying though.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:01

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:56

I believe he is a distraction to the case yes because its becoming more like a carnival show due to his involvement than a serious matter of invading someones privacy and obtaining information via illegal means. And yes this same institution that harry desperately wants to attach himself and his children to have protected him in the past, otherwise we wouldn't have had the image of the happy go lucky and easy going Harry that the public was led to believe. And yes I wouldn't trust a word he says because he's proven himself to be a liar (whether deliberate or due to poor memory).

It's only a carnival show on here with endless pathetic memes and talk of pubic hair on his head.

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:02

This thread really smacks of "The Sussexes have lost the PR battle. While Harry is in town, lets send a bunch of minor PR staff online to flood threads on SM and bullying non-fans off the threads!"
Echo chambers are shit generally. Echo chambers set up by people who do not have a grasp of the law but want to sound extremely knowledgeable create the ultimate shitshow. Never mind. Some will hopefully get sick of reading back their own drivel.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 17:02

Yes exactly. Its a shame that he has now become the face of this case when there are other claimants who don't have the problematic issues that harry has. Even if Harry's claims are legitimate, it's hard to separate them from his own controversies as this issue of invading ones privacy is exactly what he did to his own family.

I think this is bullshit. There is plenty of information out there about the other claimants - it's only you are focussed on Harry. I am quite interested in Doreen and her history and the reason for her claim as well as Hugh Grant . I am probably more interested in these 2 and some of the others than Harry however I know how to find the info which I suspect you would as well. I am not using Harry as an excuse to blocking anything and I think it is pathetic and disingenuous to make this claim.

Just like anything else the media will print what they want for sales and if you are that interested in anyone else who is involved in the claim you would take the time to look. Harry really is not your issue!

Roussette · 29/03/2023 17:09

This thread really smacks of "The Sussexes have lost the PR battle. While Harry is in town, lets send a bunch of minor PR staff online to flood threads on SM and bullying non-fans off the threads!"

This thread smacks of.... oh god, Harry is actually doing a good thing tacking illegal activities by the media, let's wheel out all that despise him to flood a thread that wants to talk about the court case with stupid memes, regurgitation of history and any old crap to demean him and invalidate his presence in Court.

Who are you accusing of being PR staff by the way? MNHQ do not take kindly to that. Just so's you know.

Echo chambers are shit generally. Echo chambers set up by people who do not have a grasp of the law but want to sound extremely knowledgeable create the ultimate shitshow. Never mind. Some will hopefully get sick of reading back their own drivel.

Do you actually know what an echo chamber is?

It's when a poster only encounters beliefs or opinions that coincides with their own.

You can't say that is occurring on this thread can you?

Modus operandi when losing ground - insult posters by saying they will get sick of reading their own drivel.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 17:10

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 16:55

Is it hard to separate them from other stuff about Harry? Not to me and many others. It is a very lazy person, who is unwilling to engage the barest of critical thinking, who would struggle to separate the media childish soap opera with Harry and the Royal Family from this really important issue that impacts all of us and the very fabric of our society.

I have zero problem separating the two and I’m sure I’m not alone.

First of all, you can criticise someone without describing them as lazy. This may or may not lead to anything yet as this hasn't even been settled yet, but its already becoming all about harry and his fight with the royal family at least to the media in my country. Not sure how this is supposed to be a good thing for this case.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 17:12

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:02

This thread really smacks of "The Sussexes have lost the PR battle. While Harry is in town, lets send a bunch of minor PR staff online to flood threads on SM and bullying non-fans off the threads!"
Echo chambers are shit generally. Echo chambers set up by people who do not have a grasp of the law but want to sound extremely knowledgeable create the ultimate shitshow. Never mind. Some will hopefully get sick of reading back their own drivel.

This is very weird.

I came upon this thread by accident but it sounds like there are other things are play.

Very, very odd.

This added to the general sense of decline in the U.K. makes me feel worried for the future.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 17:13

Plitvice · 29/03/2023 17:02

This thread really smacks of "The Sussexes have lost the PR battle. While Harry is in town, lets send a bunch of minor PR staff online to flood threads on SM and bullying non-fans off the threads!"
Echo chambers are shit generally. Echo chambers set up by people who do not have a grasp of the law but want to sound extremely knowledgeable create the ultimate shitshow. Never mind. Some will hopefully get sick of reading back their own drivel.

This comment is especially rich coming from someone who has helped hijack this into another Harry-bashing distraction thread.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread