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Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
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Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:42

He had breaks,during the day, days off, nights off, holidays. He could read the newspaper as easily as I could. oh ok, so at war in Afghanistan he should spend his breaks hunting for news and running investigations into press activity to make sure it isn’t illegal. Sure. Ok.

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:44

The poster clearly says they are from a commonwealth country, not the U.K. or the US , the headlines displayed clearly mention Harry , the others are only mentioned in the text.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 15:45

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:48

@PlanetLuna remind me, is that the Tom Parker Bowles who works for ANL? The company that is the defendant in the case we are discussing? He writes for Mail on Sunday doesn’t he?

Why, yes @Whaeanui. It is indeed the very same Tom Parker Bowles.

What an eery, total coincidence. 🧐

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:46

I find it crazy Tom PB works for ANL!

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 15:49

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:44

The poster clearly says they are from a commonwealth country, not the U.K. or the US , the headlines displayed clearly mention Harry , the others are only mentioned in the text.

Yes thank you jeffgoldblum. Our media here has Harry in their headlines, so the attention was mostly focused on him instead of the other claimants.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 15:51

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 14:49

Exactly. At the time of the Levenson Enquiry, he was 27. He wasn't a child. Why didnt he get off his self-pitying, drunken butt and go find out the facts for himself? Honestly, the more he goes on, the more of an inept and incapable individual I find him to be. I used to really like him but knowing what we know now, he was just a party prince getting wasted. And now he wants to blame everyone else for the fact he was so ineffectual and uninterested in dealing with his life.

Why didnt he get off his self-pitying, drunken butt and go find out the facts for himself?

I believe Harry was a little too busy serving his country in the military at around this time…

The level of unhinged anger and personal attacks on Harry in these comments seems to be increasing.🧐🥸

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:52

No worries, if you're anything like me you probably only look at the headlines and not read the article!
Most of the time I'm just not interested! 🤣

Roussette · 29/03/2023 15:56

To my mind, let’s just speculate, that if some senior members of the RF have allegedly made some sort of Faustian pact with important figures within certain newspaper groups say, to promote and safeguard their own image

@Bluespecsandshoes

That is not speculation. That is exactly what happens. And this is the root of all the problems.
The media desperate for a story... just not that story... it has been cover ups, using certain members of the RF to blind everyone as to dodgy stuff coming up, here's a picture of little Louis on his bike, nothing to see hear folks.

It is a symbiotic relationship. The RF would not exist without positive press. It's been like this forever. Look at the Queen and her tupperware, that set her up as being 'frugal'... a carefully placed tupperware. We are spoonfed a load of nonsense of what they want us to think about them.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 15:58

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 15:51

Why didnt he get off his self-pitying, drunken butt and go find out the facts for himself?

I believe Harry was a little too busy serving his country in the military at around this time…

The level of unhinged anger and personal attacks on Harry in these comments seems to be increasing.🧐🥸

As if he could say to his Commanding Officer... sorry sir, I just have to spend 3 hours on the internet, to look at today's press, digging into it might take me a while... can the helicopter take off without me today

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 16:01

Bluespecsandshoes · 29/03/2023 15:37

Er, because he was out doing what he is great at, which is talking to veterans and ordinary members of the general public, and had a professional team of people working for him to take care of that sort of thing? It’s really not that difficult to understand.

By the sound of it half of them were in cahoots with favoured journalists though. He’s only recently come to understand the corrupt way it all works. Hence his book and media appearances on the subject.

Of course he and Meghan suffered massive press intrusion. Journalists hanging out of neighbour’s bathrooms windows. I don’t think any of us can comprehend the hideousness of it unless you have been subjected to it. And how it impacts on every single aspect of a person’s life. Imagine if you were worried that the technician who did your ultrasound scan might be approached by journalists and bribed? At some point it makes absolute sense to take control of the narrative, rather than it controlling you.

Harry became suspicious of friends because the press were getting hold of stories they couldn’t possibly know unless they were were part of his inner circle. Then he learned about methods used by journalists working for other publications.

And btw, he has said many times publically, that he has made many, many private overtures to the RF to try and heal rifts and come to an understanding, away from cameras, and it was only after he had tried and tried again to get them to listen, and they refused to acknowledge there was even an issue, that he decided to go public.

To my mind, let’s just speculate, that if some senior members of the RF have allegedly made some sort of Faustian pact with important figures within certain newspaper groups say, to promote and safeguard their own image, just as Hugh Grant said previous Prime Ministers have had to do in the past, then it’s quite possible that certain figures within BP may not have liked the idea of young Hal rushing in and upsetting the apple cart! It makes sense to me anyway!

The most worrying aspect of all of this is the stranglehold these press barons have on every institution within the uk right up to the very top.

Whether it was a wise move or not for Harry to go public, I don’t know, but as a pp pointed out, he is in fact, whether they appreciate it or not, doing the rest of the RF a huge favour in the long term, by lending his presence to these proceedings. And he can do what they can’t, now he is outside of the institution. It’s certainly very brave of him but at this point he probably thinks he doesn’t have much more left to lose. Good on him I say!

The guy was 27. He was in the army not on royal duties. He can read. He can watch TV. But even if he was out meeting vets, he still got evenings and weekends off. At 27, I worked full time, plus obligatory overtime, had my own house which I was doing up myself, and on top of that I had to keep up with legal changes to do with my work in my own time. And I still managed to read the newspaper, and watch telly to know what was going on in the world. You're telling me that Harry couldn't manage to do that? That he needed someone to read the papers for him? Are you honestly suggesting that he'd never heard of phone hacking. That he wouldn't think it was journalists hacking his phone? If so, I don't see how you're doing him any favours in the intelligence dept.

Yep, journalists behave horribly.

He made overtures to the RF to get an apology. He's been quite explicit in his interviews over his book, that until they apologise, nothing can be repaired. Zippo self-awareness that he might need to apologise, though.

Faustian pacts! 🙄 I think if there were Faustian pacts, Tampongate would never have seen the light of day. That alone tells me there are no pacts.

I have no problem with any individual, including Harry, suing for having their privacy invaded. And if a paper or individual is found guilty of it, they deserve punishing. Honestly, it's disgusting. In fact, it's as disgusting as revealing your family's private medical issues.

But none of these people are doing it for the benefit of the British people. That's just laughable. I support their right to do it, but none if them are doing it for either my or your benefit. They're doing it for themselves. I.dont condemn them for that. But let's not make it into some noble campaign they're carrying out. 😂

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 16:03

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 15:07

but my goodness, that man is certainly STUCK.

You don't know that.

Especially with Camilla & William pulling in opposite, incandescent directions.

And you don't know that.

former” tabloid editors that Camilla undoubtedly convinced him to hire.

And you don't know that either.

It's all just made up tosh.

Thank you for sharing your well-considered comments.🧐

They were most informative and illuminating. 🙄🤨

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:04

But none of these people are doing it for the benefit of the British people. That's just laughable. I support their right to do it, but none if them are doing it for either my or your benefit. They're doing it for themselves. I.dont condemn them for that. But let's not make it into some noble campaign they're carrying out. 😂

Why are they doing it then? Not Harry, but let's say Baronness Lawrence? Or Liz Hurley?
They are drawing attention to horrible practices and trying to get the media to dial down spying on people, bugging cars and houses, obtaining medical and financial records by bribery etc.

You have a very low opinion of every one of those claimants Harry aside.

Unpleasant.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:07

p.s. did you read about the ongoing case with the lady in the mask 7/7 tube bombing? An ordinary woman on a tube on her way to work.
What she has been put through is horrendous. Her mid 80s grandmother had people ringing up pretending to be family, the hospital was invaded by duplicitous reporters pretending to be family, her phone was hacked and more

What's she doing it for then?

Every single one of these people that holds the media to account (including Harry) is doing it for everyone.

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 16:08

Roussette · 29/03/2023 15:58

As if he could say to his Commanding Officer... sorry sir, I just have to spend 3 hours on the internet, to look at today's press, digging into it might take me a while... can the helicopter take off without me today

He shouldn't be doing it on works time! That would be a nerve. He should do it on his own time.
They don't work 24/7 in the army. 😂 People have very strange and uninformed ideas.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 16:09

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:40

Hope you realise why it's upsetting to read that.

No I don’t. There are different forms of slavery. I think being born into a role that exposes your entire life and means you have to walk behind your mothers coffin as a young boy to please the masses you have to perform for, is a form of enslavement. A form of commodification. Lots of people think the same. It’s not a comparison to other forms of slavery. A lot of people talk in the past tense about slavery, unaware or unconcerned that girls and women are trafficked as sex slaves around the world. I’m sure they don’t mean harm either. You’ll notice I said earlier Maori women were sold as sex slaves, I’m Maori, and the marae my grandmother was born on was the site of mass rape and enslavement of my ancestors. So you have your experience and opinion. I have mine. If mine makes you upset or sick, it doesn’t matter to me and you’re entitled to share that. But you followed on that I must then know nothing ot slavery and poverty, which is why I responded.

So which form of slavery is the Royal Family defined as? Diana’s funeral may be one such incident where he was forced to present himself in public when he shouldn't have been, but I still don't see how that’s supposed to be a form of slavery? And why does Harry continue to attach himself to the royal institution or slavery as you call it via the titles, why did he insist on half in half out, and why in the world did harry insist on his children being tied to it via the prince and princess titles? Does he also want to enslave them? Please do explain.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 16:10

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:27

@jeffgoldblum and yet everyone on this thread has done it. I’ve been tagged incessantly, and I don’t always tag, I copy the comment and respond if someone is active on the thread generally. I don’t think it’s aggressive to continue to respond to someone tagging you or repeating your comments, or to ask them to stop derailing. It makes it very hard ti understand if you constantly are referring to things or comments unrelated to the case. It’s amazing you’ve tagged me ti tell me I’m a bully considering we haven’t been able to have a single page just talking about this case without stupid memes and endless derails. This board is full of aggressive nasty comments, you just don’t like anyone who defends Harry as much as I do. Tough.

@Whaeanui Amen. Exactly this ^

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:11

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 16:08

He shouldn't be doing it on works time! That would be a nerve. He should do it on his own time.
They don't work 24/7 in the army. 😂 People have very strange and uninformed ideas.

I'm more interested in your take that all these claimants including all others who have gone before them, and are in ongoing cases, are just doing it for themselves.

If you want to talk of 'uninformed ideas' there's one I've just typed about what you've said.

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:11

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:08

I'm not from the UK but from one of the Commonwealth countries, and as much as I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt I find it harder and harder not to feel disdain for him. I'm not saying that he has no right to feel heard or to express his feelings/struggles, but all he does is act like the biggest victim. When I read comments here mentioning the royal family as being like slaves to the public, I want to throw up because they clearly don't know what real slavery is and the actual struggles of people who have no hopes of ever climbing out of poverty due to either not being born into the right family or because of the circumstances that they've faced. Those people, some who are relatives who live in what is considered a third world country, would trade their lives to live like Harry in an instant, even with all the public scrutiny. I bet they would do a better job at fitting in as well. Having seen the true extent of poverty and misery, it just sickens me that someone like Prince Harry has never once shown any acknowledgement of the good fortune he has of being born the son of the king, of the privilege that he has due to being born into the a powerful and wealthy family

The ⬆️ above was the post @MamoruHisaishi made , no reference to any particular poster.

Excellent post

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 16:11

Indeed @MarshaMelrose , when my dh was in Afghanistan, I was able to phone him ( time difference aside!) , I remember phoning to complain about water coming through the ceiling, as I recall, he asked what I expected him to do about it! 🤣

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:14

I think it must be awful to have your privacy invaded and I hope all of them win their case

However, I think it must be even worse when that betrayal comes from a family member

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:17

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:14

I think it must be awful to have your privacy invaded and I hope all of them win their case

However, I think it must be even worse when that betrayal comes from a family member

I didn't know Harry planted bugs or tapped into their phones? Obtained their medical records and financial records, contacted ex's offering money, put bugs into cars, and on windows....
I must've missed that

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:19

@Roussette I don't recall saying that he did any of that , I mentioned invasion of privacy , which I think we can all agree he is guilty of

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 16:20

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:42

He had breaks,during the day, days off, nights off, holidays. He could read the newspaper as easily as I could. oh ok, so at war in Afghanistan he should spend his breaks hunting for news and running investigations into press activity to make sure it isn’t illegal. Sure. Ok.

Yes I agree, @Whaeanui.
That makes lots of sense. All the sense.

Doesn’t sound at all like some distorted, disingenuous pretzel logic intended to undermine the legitimacy of Harry’s involvement in this lawsuit. 😂

derxa · 29/03/2023 16:26

TaLooLaBell · 29/03/2023 16:19

@Roussette I don't recall saying that he did any of that , I mentioned invasion of privacy , which I think we can all agree he is guilty of

Exactly but Harry is perfect in some people's eyes. Every rotten action and word excused. It's like a wierd sort of game which I don't understand.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 16:29

derxa · 29/03/2023 16:26

Exactly but Harry is perfect in some people's eyes. Every rotten action and word excused. It's like a wierd sort of game which I don't understand.

I don't understand it either. But what I don't understand the constant undermining of him to invalidate his presence at this court case. Weird weird weird.

FFS someone brought up about him riding his bicycle at 5 years old! We've had the Army, Uni, school, every single bit of him growing up. All designed to scrub him off from this court case. To demean him being there. To eradicate him.

He is entitled to be there. It is a good thing he is doing. Along with all the other claimants.

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