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vera99 · 2023-03-27T08:58:40+00:00

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail ! [[https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465 https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465]]

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:37

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 14:15

Nobody is 'screeching' lets leave the misogyny aside shall we.

No one is 'too malicious' 'too thick' or 'too unimaginative'. What a lovely way of debating . We are just grown ups with different opinions which is allowed you know.

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It seems like people are not allowed to criticize Harry without being accused of being thick, malicious and unimaginative. Why the personal attacks on other posters because how dare we not see Harry as some sort of hero/deity sent to save and protect us from the evil media?

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:40

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 13:28

Oh, I forgot to add drug taking to my list of unethical behaviours conducted by Harry! I wonder if he realises how his cocaine was funded, purchased and provided for him. How the cannabis was farmed. Having worked in prisons most of my adult life, I have met the suppliers, gang leaders and importers of these drugs. They claim that if there was no demand they wouldn't be doing what they do. They also complain that the rich and famous, who are supplied with their drugs, never get held accountable. They rightly point out that they are the ones serving long prison sentences while the likes of Harry and many a politician I'm sure, have benefitted from their illegality and are walking Scott free. Harry may well have blood on his hands from those involved in supplying his cocaine, cannabis, and hallucinogens. I wonder if it ever crosses his mind. I wonder how he'd feel if one of the prisoners who was part of the chain of supply decided to hold him to account.

We cannot preach to others, use our enemies, hold people to account and then expect not to be held accountable for our own actions. Harry needs to start taking some accountability for his own conduct if he is to challenge the ethics of others without even acknowledgement or apology for his own actions.

Yes, the British media need to be held accountable for their actions, but so does Harry. However, he lives in a protected bubble and believes he has never ever done wrong and has nothing to be accountable for (much like those he is trying to hold to account).

So now Harry’s responsible for the worldwide cocaine trade?! 🙃

That’s a hilarious and desperate reach, even for someone with your history of comment. 😂

Tell me, is Queen Consort Camilla’s son, Tom Parker-Bowles, equally a beneficiary of the illegality of the cocaine trade and someone who should be held to account?

After all, many reports have said that Tom Parker Bowles was the one who introduced William to drugs.

nypost.com/1999/05/16/camillas-kid-admits-snorting-cocaine/

I realise that Harry admitted to trying cocaine on more than one occasion, but it was light recreational use and he was certainly not an addict. This whole post could have been written by Rebekah Brooks. I wonder if she’s on MN? 😏

https://bylineinvestigates.com/2020/05/27/royal-exclusive-how-rebekah-brooks-had-prince-harrys-life-hacked-at-eton/

ROYAL EXCLUSIVE: How Rebekah Brooks had Prince Harry’s life hacked at Eton – Byline Investigates

https://bylineinvestigates.com/2020/05/27/royal-exclusive-how-rebekah-brooks-had-prince-harrys-life-hacked-at-eton/

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:47

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/27/doreen-lawrence-claims-daily-mail-hired-investigators-to-hack-her-phone

amp.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/06/doreen-lawrence-prince-harry-and-others-launch-legal-action-against-daily-mail-publisher

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11911811/amp/Private-investigator-denies-unlawful-information-gathering-Associated-Newspapers.html

www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/national/23416189.stephen-lawrence-murder-exploited-daily-mail-profit-says-mother/

might be your cookies - even these few are easy to search for - not hidden anywhere. Obviously It's the same news copied across different media outlets . If you want to make it just about Harry you can.. If you want to find out about the others and their claim you can do that too

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:48

@PlanetLuna remind me, is that the Tom Parker Bowles who works for ANL? The company that is the defendant in the case we are discussing? He writes for Mail on Sunday doesn’t he?

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 14:49

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 11:15

Why does someone need to bring them to his attention?? He's not god sitting on a thrown with servants rushing around bringing him everything. Or maybe he thinks he is/was. He could have gone out and read stuff for himself. If the articles were that bad, surely he'd have noticed them. If not, chances are noone else did. If everyone else did, then surely he should have.

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Exactly. At the time of the Levenson Enquiry, he was 27. He wasn't a child. Why didnt he get off his self-pitying, drunken butt and go find out the facts for himself? Honestly, the more he goes on, the more of an inept and incapable individual I find him to be. I used to really like him but knowing what we know now, he was just a party prince getting wasted. And now he wants to blame everyone else for the fact he was so ineffectual and uninterested in dealing with his life.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:50

It seems like people are not allowed to criticize Harry without being accused of being thick, malicious and unimaginative.

But that wasn’t in response to just criticising him was it? You don’t even make sense with some of your comments, half the time you’re talking about something unrelated to this case.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:52

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:08

It would actually make more sense if he didn't draw attention to himself. Are you fucking serious? When Meghan does that articles are published and a big long thread is started here, ‘where is Meghan?’. Drones fly over their home. They found press in the garden. I mean for gods sake. The idea he draws attention and everyone would leave them alone otherwise is demonstrably false! They were seen nowhere for almost a year and there were never more stories and articles written.

I didn't even mention Meghan except to question why he even brought her up? I have no beef with her, it’s Harry that I can't stand because she's not the one who keeps complaining about the royal family and then trying to force them for a reconciliation. Once again, I have yet to hear him acknowledge his privilege, to not make it all about himself or Meghan or his mother or how the royal family/institution/media wronged him. Even with this court case, he has repeated the same talking points again. As for the drones, that happened in the US so why isn't he focusing his outrage on the US tabloids like TMZ for one? Don't know anything about having press in the garden but I don't see them being stalked like princess Diana was or even Catherine. I barely see any photos of the couple doing their day to day activities, so not sure where all this press invasion is coming from.

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 14:55

He demands everyone else must change, be held to account, say sorry etc..... Yet I have not once heard him say - "actually, I take some responsibility....."

I think he actually said in an interview that he WOULD apologise and take responsibility, if anyone could tell him what he's done wrong.

🙄 He really doesn't seem to have a scinitilla of self-awareness.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:56

Exactly. At the time of the Levenson Enquiry, he was 27. He wasn't a child. At that enquiry, Paul Dacre said the mail group journalists were law abiding.
go find out the facts for himself? Do you mean the people employed to take care of these matters for the royal family in fact shouldn’t do their job and Harry should read everything that’s written about him and then investigate to see if any of these outlets are participating in illegal activity?

WinnieTheW0rm · 29/03/2023 14:57

So there are those that think Harry's media appearances are self serving, that some of his behaviour is unethical and narcissistic, that much of his behaviour is hypocritical, and that he takes little responsibility or accountability for his actions.

Yes, all that, and that he's an unreliable narrator.

Still think he was right to join this legal action, and I hope they win

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:58

@MamoruHisaishi

I just read you said "here" I'm
Not sure how you can't find online information about any of the other claimants in the US but

here is a link from AOL

www.aol.co.uk/amphtml/stephen-lawrence-murder-exploited-daily-171108997.html

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 14:58

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:40

So now Harry’s responsible for the worldwide cocaine trade?! 🙃

That’s a hilarious and desperate reach, even for someone with your history of comment. 😂

Tell me, is Queen Consort Camilla’s son, Tom Parker-Bowles, equally a beneficiary of the illegality of the cocaine trade and someone who should be held to account?

After all, many reports have said that Tom Parker Bowles was the one who introduced William to drugs.

nypost.com/1999/05/16/camillas-kid-admits-snorting-cocaine/

I realise that Harry admitted to trying cocaine on more than one occasion, but it was light recreational use and he was certainly not an addict. This whole post could have been written by Rebekah Brooks. I wonder if she’s on MN? 😏

https://bylineinvestigates.com/2020/05/27/royal-exclusive-how-rebekah-brooks-had-prince-harrys-life-hacked-at-eton/

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Whats Brooks got to do with this case?

The hacking thing was in court years ago. This new claim against ANL may or may nor have sufficient evidence but as Burrows a key witness is now denying any involvement you wonder how far this can go. These are old claims. Old. Just because H woke up one day in 2020 and decided to pursue (because he has a vendetta against the UK media and 'the institution' aka his family) doesn't make them anymore valid or relevant.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:58

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:50

It seems like people are not allowed to criticize Harry without being accused of being thick, malicious and unimaginative.

But that wasn’t in response to just criticising him was it? You don’t even make sense with some of your comments, half the time you’re talking about something unrelated to this case.

And you think you make sense? You've been nothing but absolutely rude to me. I mentioned my own family history about poverty and why I found him distasteful and you jump at me as though I'm the one attacking you. What did I do except express my feelings and opinions about a celebrity? I feel you and others here are bullying me, funny how you get so upset when Harry gets criticized yet you have no qualms insulting others who don't agree with you. Can you kindly back off please and stop with the insults and demeaning comments?

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:59

I think he actually said in an interview that he WOULD apologise and take responsibility, if anyone could tell him what he's done wrong

He was referring to family. He also told a story where they did do that, and yet there seemed nothing major they had done to anyone in the family that enabled him to understand the way he was treated. It was lip gloss, hugs and similar small grievances you’d find in most families. Yet to them they were being treated like they had done something very wrong- this was before they left.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:00

And you think you make sense? You've been nothing but absolutely rude to me. I mentioned my own family history about poverty and why I found him distasteful and you jump at me as though I'm the one attacking you.

You might want to go back to your initial comments because that’s not what happened. You were very very rude about a comment I made and made some presumptuous comments about me.

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:03

To be fair @MamoruHisaishi , didn't mention your name or tag you in personally, I don't believe she even knew who posted the ' royals are slaves' comment.

And it does look like bullying from a lurker's perspective.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 15:03

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:58

@MamoruHisaishi

I just read you said "here" I'm
Not sure how you can't find online information about any of the other claimants in the US but

here is a link from AOL

www.aol.co.uk/amphtml/stephen-lawrence-murder-exploited-daily-171108997.html

Thanks for that. I did read a bit about this case but my point isn't that there's no news about the rest of the claimants, it’s just our media here has headlines talking about harry instead of the other claimants. I'm not saying harry is at fault for this but unfortunately, he has a higher profile than the rest of the claimants and also more controversial so it seems like the focus is more on him than the others.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 15:03

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 13:54

But he's continued taking drugs into adulthood and in fact given the message loud and clear that he thinks they r good for people's mental health. That could be incredibly damaging for vulnerable people currently looking for a way out of their despair. Ye he takes no responsibility for the impact his words and advice to take drugs, may have on others.

Yes, I experimented with drugs in my youth. But as an adult I now take responsibility and accountability for my actions. If I was a public figure I would see it as my responsibility to apologise and hold myself to account. Knowing now what I didn't before, about county lines, about drug importation and organised crime, I have no desire to be part of or promote drug culture, unlike Harry. Having worked with people with mental health probs, drug addiction, and suicidal tendencies, I would never advocate drugs as a way to solve your problems or distress.

I made many mistake in my youth. If I was to write a book about my youth, I would acknowledge my wrong doings - if I reported on an argument with my brother I would acknowledge my part in it, not just play the 'poor me' role. If I had a mocked a school matron (which I wouldn't have done) I would feel terrible about it and apologise in the book. I would also have asked them for their consent before writing about it. If I had had sex in a field with a friend I would have talked to them about how they would feel about this going in the book - not just plough on ahead with no heads up.

I am far far from perfect, but as an adult I try to be accountable for my actions. Apologise when I'm in the wrong, and continually seek to improve aspects of myself which are not good.

If I was worried about my family's security, I wouldn't aggravate the Taliban in my book. I wouldn't make a netflix documentary showing my house, my children, my partner.

If I was pissed off with my family, I'd talk about it with them in private. I would not then write a book and make a TV documentary slagging them.off to the world and revealing private conversations had after the death of a grandparent, because despite having my gripes, I have some loyalty.

There are so many things Harry has done which show no remorse or accountability and seem entirely self serving.

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What???

Harry has not advocated the use of cocaine for mental health.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:04

@MamoruHisaishi

to remind you this was me who made the comments re enslavement, this is what you said

When I read comments here mentioning the royal family as being like slaves to the public, I want to throw up because they clearly don't know what real slavery is and the actual struggles of people who have no hopes of ever climbing out of poverty due to either not being born into the right family or because of the circumstances that they've faced. Those people, some who are relatives who live in what is considered a third world country, would trade their lives to live like Harry in an instant, even with all the public scrutiny. I bet they would do a better job at fitting in as well.

You made assumptions about me and my life first. I haven’t ‘attacked you’, I’ve criticised your comments and derailments into things not pertaining to this case, which is what the thread is about.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:05

, it’s just our media here has headlines talking about harry instead of the other claimants. I'm not saying harry is at fault for this but unfortunately, he has a higher profile than the rest of the claimants and also more controversial so it seems like the focus is more on him than the others.

you did blame him for this though. Read what you’ve written.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 15:05

'He also told a story where they did do that, and yet there seemed nothing major they had done to anyone in the family that enabled him to understand the way he was treated. It was lip gloss, hugs and similar small grievances you’d find in most families'

He has no self awareness don't you see that?! It of course wasn't just 'hugs and lip gloss' that is just his very warped and select view on things. As a reminder in case its slipped your mind they cut Markle Senior off for talking to the media about his gripes yet Harold has made a career out of it. Sorry, that word is coming again but he is a stark raving hypocrite.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:07

Can you kindly back off please and stop with the insults and demeaning comments?

I haven’t once insulted you. You insulted me. Pointing out incorrect statements, having a difference of opinion, and getting tired of the derailments into things outside the topic of the thread, is not ‘insults’.

MarshaMelrose · 29/03/2023 15:07

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:22

That’s so interesting. After reading Spare, I also came away with a lot of warmth, respect and empathy for King Charles that I didn’t feel before. He really sounds like a good person.

How lovely that you & your Mum got to meet him. 😌

I’m not excusing the horrible choices he has made and continues to make, but my goodness, that man is certainly STUCK.

Especially with Camilla & William pulling in opposite, incandescent directions. And being surrounded by staff that includes “former” tabloid editors that Camilla undoubtedly convinced him to hire.

He obvs can be petty & insecure, and he’s made his own choices too. But what must his life be like surrounded by all that nastiness and chaos. 😔

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but my goodness, that man is certainly STUCK.

You don't know that.

Especially with Camilla & William pulling in opposite, incandescent directions.

And you don't know that.

former” tabloid editors that Camilla undoubtedly convinced him to hire.

And you don't know that either.

It's all just made up tosh.

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 15:08

I'm not from the UK but from one of the Commonwealth countries, and as much as I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt I find it harder and harder not to feel disdain for him. I'm not saying that he has no right to feel heard or to express his feelings/struggles, but all he does is act like the biggest victim. When I read comments here mentioning the royal family as being like slaves to the public, I want to throw up because they clearly don't know what real slavery is and the actual struggles of people who have no hopes of ever climbing out of poverty due to either not being born into the right family or because of the circumstances that they've faced. Those people, some who are relatives who live in what is considered a third world country, would trade their lives to live like Harry in an instant, even with all the public scrutiny. I bet they would do a better job at fitting in as well. Having seen the true extent of poverty and misery, it just sickens me that someone like Prince Harry has never once shown any acknowledgement of the good fortune he has of being born the son of the king, of the privilege that he has due to being born into the a powerful and wealthy family

The ⬆️ above was the post @MamoruHisaishi made , no reference to any particular poster.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 15:09

@jeffgoldblum it was my comments referenced to making her want to throw up.