Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold

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How do you feel about this development?

So a good old Meghan bash, doesn’t hide the support for someone who paid of his victim

Vera99 specifically asked for it, Samcro…

I can't see that William driving a car and Andrew being in the front passenger seat is any proof whatever that he is 'supporting' Andrew, except in the matter of giving him a lift. Perhaps Andrew is ushered deliberately, by the family, into the front seat, so that the photographers can see him from good angles and easily get a snap of him.
Is there footage which shows that Kate was smiling at Andrew in the car?

Kate’s in the front seat in some of the photos, by the way upinaballoon - so they obviously switched up who sat where on one of the journeys. (In the ones where Kate’s in the front seat you can’t actually see if Andrew’s in the back or not).

"No wonder the UK is in the mess it is in".

I don't know how old you are, Novella, or whether you live in the UK. Do you think the removal of a monarchy would stop the UK from being in a mess, as you see it, or do you see anything besides the RF which is causing this mess?

Cunning. Like going to church riding on your bike in the middle of a John Betjeman poem, and WHEELING it back home. No wonder the country's in a mess. It's nearly as bad as 1979.

Even Lucy Letby’s family is standing by her, is it really so surprising that Andrew still has a relationship with his family.

I saw even Rubiales’s mum has gone on hunger strike today. It must be hard to believe when your LO is accused of something terrible. I do think they should do a better job of keeping him away from the public though.

Keep who away?? Andrew or Rubiales?

@upinaballoon

I am in the Uk - yes of course .

The answer as to why getting rid of the Windsors would improve the Uk is long and off topic but off the top of my head:

A fish rots from the head . We see Andrew be publicly supported by the ‘royals’ , we know that Mountbatten had his activity covered up, we see Charles not being even spoken to by the MET, I could go on .
These people spent millions recently to confirm their unelected place . That destroys hope and aspiration in a society.

The ‘royals’ are set in aspic . All they have is a long gone empire to try to hark back to . Look at the ridiculous get ups during the conanation. Gaudy and thin to modern eyes
The Uk is failing in many ways . We need change- not trying to cling to a Disneyfied 200 year old theme park
.This sort of faux nostalgia is damaging and drags us down
The history won’t go anywhere

At the very least stop
putting this corrrupt family above the law and stop shovelling public funds their way

Andrew! But if William can pull some strings with the Spanish FA too I wouldn’t complain…!

Disgusting to try to draw such a comparison. Disgraceful to drag those poor babies into this discussion

Letby was tried

Andrew runs from the law and now is paraded around by his family as if nothing had happened

Letby was tried

Andrew runs from the law and now is paraded around by his family as if nothing had happened

Avtually, Andrew has never had any criminal proceedings issued against him and he settled the civil suit filed against him. Hyperbole doesn’t help.

Andrew has never been charged with a criminal offence.

I am simply pointing out that as it jd generally the case that convicted murderers still retain the support of their families it is hardly surprising that Prince Andrew does.

I can hardly believe I’m having to point this out yet again

The Windsors are supported by the tax payers .
And pointing out that they haven’t been convicted is no defence as events have shown .

So now we have royalists pointing to convicted murderers and arguing that the Windsors are no worse !
Wth supporters like you , the ‘royals ‘ don’t need enemies

I'm not particularly a fan of Prince Andrew, but this thread is hilarious. He may be unpleasant and stupid, but he is not convicted of any crime. And, regardless of that and even if he had been convicted, this is not just a family but a Christianfamily. How can the present and future heads of the CofE fail to show any forgiveness

Andrew was never going to court, even in a civil case in any capacity so the threadbare argument 'he's never been convicted' is irrelevant.

As for showing forgiveness, there have been Charles-friendly press leaks and whispers around Andrew's home, finances and distancing for some time.

As I said above they can't have it both ways.

He hasn’t been charged let alone convicted!

“Remember when the Daily Mail said that Kate walking next to Meghan after the Queen’s death was the hardest thing she’s ever done? It seems that cozying up to a man who counted a serial rapist & trafficker of girls as a great biz partner was easy peasy”

https://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/prince-andrew-and-royal-family-put-on-show-of-unity-at-balmoral-church-appearance.php

The Scottish government has just blocked Charles proposal to have his portraits put up in schools .
8 million saved

Well done .

What a ridiculous idea in the first place and worse - what a an utter waste of precious resources that schools need .

He should travel, as he did when attending church at Sandringham during the last years of ER II's reign, separately in one of the many cars at their disposal

Yes, I agree.

This is the second instance of Willy allegedly being pushed around (as if) or circumstances dictating to place him in the front seat next to the heir.

Neither have been accidental compromises.

Isn’t it the UK governments plan and isn’t it primarily replacing the existing portraits of the Queen which are mainly in council offices / courts etc?

Blimey a low bar indeed. We have a private family where I don't give a monkey's cuss within reason what they do and then there is the public persona the family of the nation. The mystical bedrock of national identity of which we have no other choice to accept whether it be in the image on money, stamps, the Royal Mail, the national anthem, the celebration of their births, wedding, funerals, the honours system, the Sovereign grant, armed forces' oath of allegiance, citizenship ceremonies. I could go on ...

A position over which I have no agency but have to grudgingly accept. But if accept I must then they had damn well better be on the surface as clean as driven snow (aka 99% of HMTLQ) fall short of that and an increasing body of folks will think why are we ennobling this family, what do they for the happiness and prosperity of the realm and in that will see the seeds if their own ultimate downfall.

Andrews is the stink that won't go away and their feeble attempts to begin a rehabilitation without a mea culpa for him are doomed to failure.

Beside which Letby is facing a life without parole for her sins whilst Andrew cowers in his Royal 'prison' being waiting on gilded hand and foot.

He could say look I liked shagging teenage girls who appeared to be compliant and willing but how did I know they were groomed and trafficked. I maybe a sleazebag but I'm nor a paedophile or rapist. But he does none of that and seemingly seeks a pathway back to some sort of normality. An approach that the rest of the Royal Family seems happy to support.

Royalists that seek to preserve the institution would do well to join in the public pile on and be critical of this approach rather than find increasingly lame and disingenuous reasons as to why he should be forgiven.

i haven’t read the whole thread but has anyone argued he should be forgiven? It’s quite a gap between being forgiven and cast out permanently from a family.

If a member of your family, say your child was accused of doing something terrible would you sever all ties with them? Most families don’t.

Last time I checked, Prince Andrew hadn’t been been running a targeted campaign to badmouth Kate through the global press as Meghan has.

Lord knows I'm no supporter of any of them but even I can recognise that alleged flinching at lending a lip-gloss and a refusal to get huggy isn't remotely on a par with confirmed taking a back seat to and gurning at an alleged sex-offender.