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The royal family

Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold

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tatalan · 22/03/2023 12:02

How do you feel about this development?

Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold
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Roussette · 28/08/2023 17:09

derxa · 28/08/2023 17:03

Should he travel in a tumbril wearing a hair shirt?

No? I've said nothing like that.

Not sat centre and up front with the heir to the throne maybe.

EdithWeston · 28/08/2023 17:18

Roussette · 28/08/2023 17:09

No? I've said nothing like that.

Not sat centre and up front with the heir to the throne maybe.

He should travel, as he did when attending church at Sandringham during the last years of ER II's reign, separately in one of the many cars at their disposal and wearing a suit (with overcoat in inclement weather)

If bothered about environmental footprint, they could convert more royal cars to run on left-over wine - one to live at each principle residence

Hbh17 · 28/08/2023 17:21

I'm not particularly a fan of Prince Andrew, but this thread is hilarious. He may be unpleasant and stupid, but he is not convicted of any crime. And, regardless of that and even if he had been convicted, this is not just a family but a Christian family. How can the present and future heads of the CofE fail to show any forgiveness and/or refuse to allow their errant family member to attend church with them? To forgive is one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity. This is very different to performing public duties. Maybe (some) posters should just find something more important to worry about....

vera99 · 28/08/2023 17:36

derxa · 28/08/2023 17:07

Haven't you got better things to do than sit knitting while the guillotine falls? This is the bit I don't get. The bitter hatred.

A great moment in the inevitable march to women's freedoms not given but seized as are all freedoms. They have to be taken from the dead cold hands of the oppressors ! Let us not forget whose side Poldark was on !

The women's march was a signal event of the French Revolution, with an impact on par with the fall of the Bastille. For posterity, the march is emblematic of the power of popular movements. The occupation of the deputies' benches in the Assembly created a template for the future, ushering in the mob rule that would frequently influence successive Parisian governments But it was the crudely decisive invasion of the palace itself that was most momentous; the attack removed forever the aura of invincibility that once cloaked the monarchy. It marked the end of the king's resistance to the tide of reform; he made no further open attempts to push back the Revolution. As one historian states, it was "one of those defeats of royalty from which it never recovered"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_March_on_Versailles

Women's March on Versailles - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_March_on_Versailles

vera99 · 28/08/2023 17:39

Hbh17 · 28/08/2023 17:21

I'm not particularly a fan of Prince Andrew, but this thread is hilarious. He may be unpleasant and stupid, but he is not convicted of any crime. And, regardless of that and even if he had been convicted, this is not just a family but a Christian family. How can the present and future heads of the CofE fail to show any forgiveness and/or refuse to allow their errant family member to attend church with them? To forgive is one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity. This is very different to performing public duties. Maybe (some) posters should just find something more important to worry about....

Forgiveness after repentance but first justice, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's...

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 17:49

I have not caught up with the recent posts but I saw something about ‘Christian family’
Good God . Do you know the first thing about the Windsors ?

How do you even think their forefathers got what they stole ? At the point of a sword

How have they kept it? By claiming to be religious and devoted to ‘service’ and by cloaking themselves ( literally) in religious symbolism .

Andrew used the BBC to publicly protest his innocence

Let him also publicly repent and admit his ridiculous lies

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 17:58

@derxa
whoosh

Way to miss the point .

Andrew can go to church as others have suggested, privately .
But the ‘royals’ didn’t do that

He is up front driven by Willy.
That sends a message and it’s a very bad one that will affect the Windsors for a long while

And as for Willy doing as he’s told ! lol. He’s 40 odd
He has his own PR puff team .
He has done this deliberately

derxa · 28/08/2023 18:01

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 17:58

@derxa
whoosh

Way to miss the point .

Andrew can go to church as others have suggested, privately .
But the ‘royals’ didn’t do that

He is up front driven by Willy.
That sends a message and it’s a very bad one that will affect the Windsors for a long while

And as for Willy doing as he’s told ! lol. He’s 40 odd
He has his own PR puff team .
He has done this deliberately

Did you mean to be so rude?😉

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:09

@derxa
Yes. I dont find what Epstein and Andrew did a laughing matter

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/08/2023 18:09

I think any reasonable person will find Andrew Windsor's behaviour many times worse than Harry and will continue to do so however much the BRF will try and finesse it away with their ill-judged "stunts"

Of course it is; however from tthe Windsors' perspective Harry's the one who went running to the media with his various accounts, and Andrew's kept his mouth shut (at least so far) so gets a free pass

These people care about themselves and their unearned, unelected place at the trough first, second and always, and it appears to matter not at all what they've done, what lies have to be told and how venal they are - only that the image remains intact and their positions secure

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:13

@wordler

The problem with William ‘picking his battles’ is that he chose NOT to go to the women’s football final when he is president of the FA but also actively CHOSE to stage a public show of support for Andrew

Who by the way has still not spoken to the authorities despite publicly pledging to .

derxa · 28/08/2023 18:15

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:09

@derxa
Yes. I dont find what Epstein and Andrew did a laughing matter

But all you're doing is being insulting to me. Epstein is dead and Andrew doesn't read MN.

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:17

You are the one laughing about it and minimising

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:20

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Yes very much this

derxa · 28/08/2023 18:25

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:17

You are the one laughing about it and minimising

Back to lurking I go.

MissElinorDashwood · 28/08/2023 18:25

I’m just going to leave this here.
Family values.

Prince Andrew BACK in the royal fold
Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:48

Yes I saw the coldness during the ‘walkabout ‘ with Meghan and Harry

Thats the hardest thing she’s done ??

But laughing it up with Andrew - no problem !

Harry told the truth . Even if you only view it as ‘his truth’ . That’s all
he did .
But Andrew is front seat with Willy because he can rape teenagers and that’s fine .
And some people support this …

Serenster · 28/08/2023 18:49

Last time I checked, Prince Andrew hadn’t been been running a targeted campaign to badmouth Kate through the global press as Meghan has. So I hardly think they are similar. She’s also quite familiar in dealing with mortifying uncles with murky pasts!

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:52

@Serenster

Are you serious ?

You might want to ask for your post to be deleted

Writing your own story is worse than raping teenagers and being besties with Epstein??
Thats what you are saying.

But - you are right . That’s what royalists support and you aren’t even denying it

Novella4 · 28/08/2023 18:52

Anyway thanks for the confirmation

Samcro · 28/08/2023 19:05

Serenster · 28/08/2023 18:49

Last time I checked, Prince Andrew hadn’t been been running a targeted campaign to badmouth Kate through the global press as Meghan has. So I hardly think they are similar. She’s also quite familiar in dealing with mortifying uncles with murky pasts!

Wow so hanging out with abusers, paying off a victim, is not as bad as Harry!!!
mn is sometimes very odd

vera99 · 28/08/2023 19:07

Serenster · 28/08/2023 18:49

Last time I checked, Prince Andrew hadn’t been been running a targeted campaign to badmouth Kate through the global press as Meghan has. So I hardly think they are similar. She’s also quite familiar in dealing with mortifying uncles with murky pasts!

Quite a claim do you have authoritative links or should we put on the William/Rose bench of unsubstantiated rumours ?

Serenster · 28/08/2023 19:32

Of course, Vera99.

Shortly after it was announced that Meghan and Harry were dating a Toronto-based, online gossip columnist who Meghan knew, published a blind saying snobbish Kate had refused to give Meghan lift from Kensington Palace to the shops when she was going shopping also. Although this was written on a no-names basis, it was clear it related to Kate and Meghan, and it was later repeated by Omid Scobie in Finding Freedom - presumably sourced directly from Meghan.

When Meghan left the UK Meghan in early 2020 a story was placed with the Press, and credited to a “friend”, saying:

“[Meghan] said [their last trip back to the UK as working royals] has been a confirmation that they made the right choice in parting ways. There's no warmth between the family members and she wants to raise Archie in a household that is filled with laughter and joy and lots of hugs,' a close friend of Meghan told DailyMail.com. It's still weird to her that no one hugs and that everyone is so uptight, especially Kate“

Meghan said in the Oprah interview about the bridesmaid dress incident that “I would have never wanted that to come out about [Kate] ever, even though it had happened. I protected that from ever being out in the world”. Which was spectacularly ironic given she was indeed now bringing up the incident in front of the global media, when she knew her sister in law could never reply (and brilliantly worded, insinuating that it was something so serious that it needed to be “protected”). The whole “Kate made me cry” story was also repeated in Meghan’s interview in The Cut magazine just before the Queen’s death (and of course featured heavily in Spare).

Meghan also brought up the “Waitey Katey” label in her Oprah interview as mentioned above and insinuated that that was the extent of the mistreatment Katherine received from the press, completely minimising all the harassment, abuse and inversions of privacy her sister in law did have to live through for 10 years.

Meghan said that she wouldn’t let her children go to school in the UK because she is “a good and strong parent protecting her child” the week before the Cambridge children all started a new school in the UK.

In her first podcast she said “You can pretend to be the perfect version like a Stepford wife and still have the exact same outcome as someone who is being authentically truly themselves and wouldn’t you rather live with a version of yourself where you can look in the mirror at night?” - widely taken to be a reference to her sister in law.

Omid Scobie delivered several barbs in Finding Freedom and noted that “the Sussexes don’t want servants, they’ve so relaxed and hands on!” versus the Cambridges who have a home “filled with staff” - and said that the Sussexes looked at their lifestyle and it was exactly what they didn’t want.

In the Netflix documentary we are told Kate was formal and not a hugger, and was cold behind the scenes as well as in public.

And all of this was before Spare and the various anecdotes about Kate in there - again, cold, made Meghan cry over the dresses, was insufficiently enthusiastic about sharing her lipgloss etc etc, etc.

Kate I don’t believe has said a single thing publicly about her sister in law. A poster upthread did noted Kate’s “coldness” towards Meghan during the walkabout, however. In fairness therefore it’s probably worth mentioning there’s several photos of Meghan looking absolute daggers at her sister in law when the Sussexes were working Royals.

Well done Kate for being willing to be seen out with her in public indeed.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 28/08/2023 19:37

presumably sourced directly from Meghan

widely taken to be

So no authoritative links at all then.

beatan · 28/08/2023 19:37

Andrew was never out of the royal fold. The RF will embrace him because he settled the case and spared them court drama ahead of the Jubilee.