Charles gets all the inheritance so will William.

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Reported in the press , I'm starting to see why Harry might be a little annoyed. He's still a spoilt brat and no excuse for everything he's done but still I'm starting to understand a bit of the bitterness. Charles has inherited all his mother's estate 650 million tax free monarch to monarch. None of the Queen's other children have received a cut. The queen's other children will have to see if Charles decides to give them anything. Perhaps Phillip left them something and it didn't all go to the Queen?.

I'm starting to see where the spares anger and the supposed genetic pain comes from. You are entirely beholden to the monarch and the heir. They have to follow the rules and protocol but don't get the massive wealth the heir does and you spend your life being lesser because of your order of birth. One day William will get the lot of the massive fortune and in charge of the purse strings. It's really an unfair system the heir and spares thing. I thought things like inheritance would be fairer. It's an archaic system for 2023.

He's still a massive twat but I understand a little why he has a massive chip on his shoulder.

This is the problem and causes the family to be dysfunctional with sibling rivalry and jealousy. You can't control the heirs personality they could be a complete dick to their family and the family still have to kiss their feet. The monarch and heir control it all. They will always have more money than us mere mortals but I can see where the dysfunction comes from.

And it has got worse with the abolition of the civil list. Some taxpayers money used to be allocated directly to each working Royal. Now it all goes to the Heir to distribute as they see fit.
It leads to ridiculous situations where some people describe Charles as generous to pay for the clothes other Royals wear to public engagements, or to allow them to rent a house. It is not generous, just what should be expected.

You can't control the heirs personality they could be a complete dick to their family and the family still have to kiss their feet. The monarch and heir control it all

I agree, and on that last bit I expect William's pretty pleased to have the Duchy or Cornwall now and not to have to rely on Charles for his money

and conversely why Harry is well pissed.....

Imagine having to ask a family member to purchase your clothes , the amount of control the heir has over their relatives lives! No wonder the Windsor's are so dysfunctional..

They also have personal wealth. Trust funds and the likes.

None of Anne or Andrew or Edward are absolutely reliant on Charles for the money for a grocery shop or some casual clothes for the weekend.

For clothes that are effectively the ‘uniform’ they wear for the family business you’d absolutely expect the boss to have a say in the budget surely?

Imagine having to ask a family member to purchase your clothes

In fairness it may not be quite as literal as that - I'd always believed they get an "allowance" to spend more or less as they like? - but that doesn't change the principle of being reliant on the main players who get the money, and frankly the idea gives me hives

I thought it was an allowance as well.

Which tbh isn’t really that different, imo, to getting a salary.

But the Heir decides the allowance.
It is very different from a salary. You spend a salary on what you want. An allowance for clothes is more similar to an expenses allowance at work. It can only be spent on certain things.

That’s not that difference to the owner of a family business deciding on salaries and allowances.

It can’t be that bad or they’d have all gone off an got normal jobs…

Nobody is worried they might not have enough money to buy food or clothes. Simply that it is a very unhealthy family dynamic inherent in how the family and its funding is set up.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings Yes it is like a family business where one member of the family controls all the profits and decides totally based on what they want how much money each family member gets, or whether they get anything at all.

How do you decide when an exotic peacock feather is past its sell by date or the ermine (grrr animal lover here fur belongs on the animal not cruelly raised in a so-called farm).

Framing the wealth and privileges of being born into the royal family as being in any way "lesser" really is braindead take on things.

The monarchy would not survive if inheritance was handled any other way.

In other words it's a business in the same way the mafia is a business

@oldwhyno Not lesser. Simply a dysfunctional set up that will always cause issues within the family dynamics. The dysfunction is built in.

The sovereign's wealth is handed down to the next sovereign without having to pay death duties. If anybody else benefits then the tax man is waiting. This system protects the core wealth being eroded by a succession of quick deaths. No need for Andrew to be boot faced, he is an adult and he would have known this. Besides, didn't mum bail him out recently in a well publisised court case. If he did inherit £Ms he isn't going to stay in and play dominos and ludo with Fergie is he? There would be upset at his lavish lifestyle which got him into trouble in the first place.

You can't have a family business divided equally between progeny for successive generations and not be surprised when eventually you all end up with nothing. Ask any land owning farmer.

It's different though the spares have been brought up as child of the monarch so would been used to a privileged life from childhood. I suppose they would know from a very early age they aren't as important as the eldest. Parents are more likely to be more generous with their DC Vs siblings. It's much more common for siblings to fall out than parents when the monarch dies and the wealth transfers to the eldest , I'm guessing that's where some of the animosity comes from.

Absolute primogeniture can cause a lot of dysfunction, just because someone's the eldest does not mean they are the most suitable for the job . In Rome sometimes the emperor would choose the heir or someone would be nominated by the Praetorian guard. it wasn't a given it would be the eldest son.

This was the queen's personal wealth the not crown estates or the duchies which already generate massive wealth for the monarch and heir.

The animosity in this case though cuts down to who should pay for Yoga teachers and the likes.

None of the siblings are being cut off or financially disadvantaged.

And they’ve all likely known for years what Charles’ opinions would be on certain things, they’ll know William’s as well.

It’s no different to the fact that the Queen was likely more generous to Andrew, for example, than she was to her cousins. Everyone gets their turn.

They’re all multi millionaires in their own right. None are going to be homeless (and in Andrew’s case should be remembered that he had Sunninghill - which would have been absolutely nothing to do with Charles so being reliant on crown estate housing is his own doing). None are going to be searching yellow stickers for their groceries.

Theyre going to have paid for accommodation. Paid for travel. Paid for staff. Paid for essential security. Paid for clothes and accessories. Most likely paid for upgrades or repairs to their homes as and when needed. Their children are never going to be renting shitty flats from rogue landlords. I’d bet school and Uni fees are paid through the family.

They may not like restrictions that weren’t there before, but expecting any sympathy for that huffing is just daft imo.

And in the case of Charles’ siblings they’ve had 30/40 years to save, build new careers etc if they didn’t want to be part of his future monarchy.

I doubt any of them are actually that unhappy. Some will just be pushing hard to take any negotiations to the max level, like folks do when buying houses.

doesn't really make much difference.

Now there's a plan for brain-dead Republicans to ponder on ...... thanks for the tip !

Whatever way you cut it's a trough, gilded and bearing the Great Seals of Timbooktoo or whatever but still a trough and King Tut's trough to boot where he dictates what little piggies get to sup on the treasures within. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.