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Charles gets all the inheritance so will William.

257 replies

Fifi0000 · 12/03/2023 01:09

Reported in the press , I'm starting to see why Harry might be a little annoyed. He's still a spoilt brat and no excuse for everything he's done but still I'm starting to understand a bit of the bitterness. Charles has inherited all his mother's estate 650 million tax free monarch to monarch. None of the Queen's other children have received a cut. The queen's other children will have to see if Charles decides to give them anything. Perhaps Phillip left them something and it didn't all go to the Queen?.

I'm starting to see where the spares anger and the supposed genetic pain comes from. You are entirely beholden to the monarch and the heir. They have to follow the rules and protocol but don't get the massive wealth the heir does and you spend your life being lesser because of your order of birth. One day William will get the lot of the massive fortune and in charge of the purse strings. It's really an unfair system the heir and spares thing. I thought things like inheritance would be fairer. It's an archaic system for 2023.

He's still a massive twat but I understand a little why he has a massive chip on his shoulder.

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beachpearl · 12/03/2023 04:34

He's one of the richest people in our country making us feel sorry for him because he will never be a billionaire like his brother: it's pathetic. They're all too rich. Even princess Diana was brought into the royal family because her family were richer than every person in England combined . It's all corrupt .

MarshaMelrose · 12/03/2023 04:46

Even princess Diana was brought into the royal family because her family were richer than every person in England combined.

That's not true. The Duke of Westminster is worth about £10b. Diana's father was selling stuff off because they were struggling for cash.

magicthree · 12/03/2023 05:28

Kinneddar · 12/03/2023 01:23

I'm starting to see where the spares anger and the supposed genetic pain comes from

There's only one spare banging on about being hard done by & as he's a multi millionaire I find it hard to feel sorry for him

Exactly! Honestly OP, this is the RF you are talking about, not the Bloggs family down the road. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with you, or indeed any of us, and you can't compare it with the way others deal with their wealth.

And yes, I struggle to sympathise with the whinging "spare" or his wife over anything.

Roussette · 12/03/2023 06:20

magicthree · 12/03/2023 05:28

Exactly! Honestly OP, this is the RF you are talking about, not the Bloggs family down the road. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with you, or indeed any of us, and you can't compare it with the way others deal with their wealth.

And yes, I struggle to sympathise with the whinging "spare" or his wife over anything.

Why has it "got nothing to do with us?"

It has everything to do with us! What my next door neighbour does with his money is the sort of thing that has nothing to do with me.
But I'm sorry, talking as if the RF are some sort of deity that is nothing to do with us is bizarre!

They receive money from us, we are force fed daily news about this family whether we like it or not, they can dodge paying tax, the King can never be arrested, they can demand extra money in the yearly payout, they can ignore certain laws the rest of us have to abide by, we can't be rid of them as they are unelected...
All in all they have EVERYTHING to do with us whether we like it or not.

daretodenim · 12/03/2023 06:27

Apparently it's not Harry who is upset, it's Andrew. The DM (shit paper, but good for the RF soap opera which is all the stories about it are now anyway - a bit of light entertainment). says he's "in despair". He's just found out, apparently.

The article is absolutely hilarious. Poor wee Andwoo.

It's actually almost like the DM is trolling itself! If it could have had a "sad face" Andrew and a title about him being left in poverty by his mean brother, it would have. It even portrays him as Poor Wee Andwoo at having to pay the settlement millions.

I can't believe the editor actually okayed this article. It's either serious, which is insane, or self-trolling!

It does run the threat that he might "do a Harry". I mean, go on Poor Wee Andwoo, it worked so well for you the first time you did an interview. To be seen doing a second one because you're stomping your feet at not having a big enough nearly free home due to being a suspected sex offender and for not getting what you want from your mummy's death, will go down well, I'm sure.

I mean someone has told him that wills in the U.K. are entirely the deceased's wishes? It's not like France, a Republic, where children automatically inherit a party of their parents' estate.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 12/03/2023 06:30

MarshaMelrose · 12/03/2023 04:18

Yes, you're right, sorry. I guess the queen mother could pass on the money her husband, a previous monarch, left her so was exempt. Prince Philip would have paid IHT on any money he left other than to the Queen. Because married couples don't pay IHT.

The Queen Mother, as a consort, could leave her estate to the current sovereign, be it her daughter or even had it been her grandson free of IHT. Regardless of it was acquired from her late husband or not.

If the Queen had died first Philip would have been able to leave everything to Charles free of IHT.

Consort to Sovereign and Sovereign to Sovereign are both exempt.

milveycrohn · 12/03/2023 07:07

This always happened in the Aristocracy, though!
Remember Pride and Prejudice? The 5 daughters would not get the estate which was going to the nearest male heir, a distant cousin. (known as primogeniture)

"the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, especially the feudal rule by which the whole real estate of an intestate passed to the eldest son".

In the UK, the eldest male heir, or nearest male heir got the estate. Second and third sons went into the army and the priesthood (can't remember which order).
This is why the very large estates remained intact, whereas, I think, in France, estates were shared between sons, thus getting smaller and smaller, with each generation.
The system of primogeniture may have technically ended in that daughters can now inherit titles, etc.
There is no law in the UK that says you must divide up your estate equally between ALL your children, and you will find that in the Spencer family, the current Earl Spencer, was in fact the youngest of the 4 children of his father, but also the only son, and who inherited Althorp.

QuintanaRoo · 12/03/2023 07:21

I guess you have to see it as The Crown passed the wealth/houses onto The Crown rather than thinking about individuals. Anything else would have triggered a load of inheritance tax and within a few generations they’d be living in a 3 bed semi in Croydon as they’d have to see everything to pay tax.

sashagabadon · 12/03/2023 07:26

but it all belongs to the Crown who in human form is the monarch. It’s the system and has been this way for millennia. I get Harry’s annoyance but he needs to get over it. Was he sad and upset for Anne , Andrew and Edward? Bet he didn’t give a hoot for them.
or is he upset for the millions of people that get diddly squat inheritance or income from anyone or anything?

sydneysunset · 12/03/2023 07:29

I'm starting to see where the spares anger and the supposed genetic pain comes from. You are entirely beholden to the monarch and the heir.

Harry has inherited millions from his mother so he really has nothing to complain about in the grand scheme.

Now he has a choice. He can either buy into what he regards as an inherently unfair system - or he can reject it. Buying into it means using his title to get the sort of special treatment to which he would never otherwise (on the basis of his limited personal attributes) be entitled.

Having bought into that unfair system and even claiming titles for his children, he turns around and complains that the unfair system - which has put him at an unfair advantage - is unfair? Therein lies the gross hypocricy.

sydneysunset · 12/03/2023 07:32

In short: Harry is very happy with the idea of a hierarchy that places him above others - but takes exception to the face that the very same hierarchy places others above him! You can't have it both ways.

CatSpeakForDummies · 12/03/2023 07:33

I'd only be able to muster some sympathy for Harry if it wasn't clear that he's perfectly happy with his cousins being less important than him, for the same birth order reasons. It's not a system he's angry at, it's just me me me.

They all have more money than they will ever need, it isn't the same as struggling families where a few thousand would make a difference.

sashagabadon · 12/03/2023 07:35

sydneysunset · 12/03/2023 07:32

In short: Harry is very happy with the idea of a hierarchy that places him above others - but takes exception to the face that the very same hierarchy places others above him! You can't have it both ways.

I think you are right. He loves the hierarchy and unfair system when it benefits him and has latched on to it for his own children but hates it and calls it unfair when he is below someone else in the pecking order. He can’t have it both ways ditto Andrew

Roussette · 12/03/2023 07:40

Why is this thread, yet again, all about Harry, when it appears from the media, he is not complaining about anything?

Most of the posts on here talk as if he is moaning. He isn't. Andrew appears to be though.

It seems like Harry is responsible for every single thing that happens in the RF because any threads about anything not to do with him, still comes back to him. Rather unfair I feel.

TodayInahurry · 12/03/2023 07:41

Charles is the king that is why he inherited everything. Much of the estate is not owned personally it belongs to The Crown a separate entity. William will also be king.
Harry needs to get a proper job, he can’t make a lifetime business out of whining about his life.

SpookyBlackCat · 12/03/2023 07:43

William is already rich because he has the Duchy of Cornwall now. I can also see why Harry didn’t want to have to rely on his brother and in time his nephew for hand-outs, but really they are all rich and they are all living in mansions paying peppercorn rent. I don’t feel sorry for any of them. I wouldn’t want to be monarch. There are plenty of people in the world more deserving of sympathy.

TaraRhu · 12/03/2023 07:49

I'm more annoyed he is t paying tax. All of us mere plebs pay tax plus risk loosing it all with care home costs. He's not seemingly bothered about modernising that part of the monarchy!

sydneysunset · 12/03/2023 07:49

Most of the posts on here talk as if he is moaning. He isn't.

Have you been living under a rock for the past three years? 😂

OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 12/03/2023 07:53

Archaic yes but hardly unique to the royal family. That's the way landed gentry did it for many years, all those stately homes would not have lasted had the estate been divided amongst the children. The heir got the house and the money/ income. Younger sons had to find professions.

HappinesDependsOnYou · 12/03/2023 07:55

What exactly is the monarchs inheritance in though? Does it include the properties such as Kensington Palace etc or is it cash? A lot I imagine is the Royal jewels. It must be weird growing up being taught your only role in life is to be second to your brother. I don't understand why he couldn't be left to pursue his military career instead. He probably would have been much happier having an actual purpose

pompomdaisy · 12/03/2023 07:55

He fails to appreciate that he's only a spare because his family are loaded. If they had naff all then he wouldn't be a spare. Would he prefer that they all have naff all? I doubt it! Entitled idiot!

Mothership4two · 12/03/2023 07:56

Charles doesn't pay inheritance tax that's why he inherited everything. The RF private wealth (not Crown Estates) is estimated to be worth around £24-28 billion so a lot is personally owned

Fifi0000 · 12/03/2023 07:57

QuintanaRoo · 12/03/2023 07:21

I guess you have to see it as The Crown passed the wealth/houses onto The Crown rather than thinking about individuals. Anything else would have triggered a load of inheritance tax and within a few generations they’d be living in a 3 bed semi in Croydon as they’d have to see everything to pay tax.

It's not the crown estates as really they don't belong to the royal family it's an independent business. It's the Queen's personal wealth she has given away tax free.

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TheVanguardSix · 12/03/2023 07:59

I mean, none of it can really be a surprise to them. They all knew/know the drill.
And I’m sorry, but if you’re living this life expecting inheritances/windfalls, then you’re setting yourself up for disappointment and misery.

Fifi0000 · 12/03/2023 08:01

pompomdaisy · 12/03/2023 07:55

He fails to appreciate that he's only a spare because his family are loaded. If they had naff all then he wouldn't be a spare. Would he prefer that they all have naff all? I doubt it! Entitled idiot!

He probably does want them to have naff all as he's very bitter. I'm not saying I feel sorry for him but it is a messed up system where from birth you are expected to kneel down and defer to the eldest sibling who could be a complete cunt.
He obviously doesn't hate it too much as he's still happy to profit from the titles.

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