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The royal family

Charles gets all the inheritance so will William.

257 replies

Fifi0000 · 12/03/2023 01:09

Reported in the press , I'm starting to see why Harry might be a little annoyed. He's still a spoilt brat and no excuse for everything he's done but still I'm starting to understand a bit of the bitterness. Charles has inherited all his mother's estate 650 million tax free monarch to monarch. None of the Queen's other children have received a cut. The queen's other children will have to see if Charles decides to give them anything. Perhaps Phillip left them something and it didn't all go to the Queen?.

I'm starting to see where the spares anger and the supposed genetic pain comes from. You are entirely beholden to the monarch and the heir. They have to follow the rules and protocol but don't get the massive wealth the heir does and you spend your life being lesser because of your order of birth. One day William will get the lot of the massive fortune and in charge of the purse strings. It's really an unfair system the heir and spares thing. I thought things like inheritance would be fairer. It's an archaic system for 2023.

He's still a massive twat but I understand a little why he has a massive chip on his shoulder.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/03/2023 15:34

The monarchy would not survive if inheritance was handled any other way

Now there's a plan for brain-dead Republicans to ponder on ... thanks for the tip!

Good luck with that, Vera; even the offer to pay tax at all was more smoke and mirrors since it's voluntary, and never forget the crafty "Monarch's Consent" whereby they can effectively veto proposed legislation which affects them personally

Which reminds me that although it's Monarch's Consent, Charles as PoW got it too ... I wonder if William now enjoys the same?

vera99 · 13/03/2023 15:46

Republic have a whole report detailing the secrecy about the Royal Household.

assets.nationbuilder.com/republic/pages/522/attachments/original/1676474369/Republic_Royal_Secrets_Report.pdf?1676474369

BasiliskStare · 13/03/2023 16:13

@sydneysunset I do agree with you there - you stamp your foot and say it's not fair - but I do think Harry wants the family money , titles etc when it suits him ( which is not fair for most people ) but when it doesn't suit - he whinges . I do think ( in my opinion ) he is coming out of this whole thing as a hypocrite

BasiliskStare · 13/03/2023 16:18

So by which I mean - Harry doesn't get as much money as W because is is second son - can he not realise the amount of money he has had from the RF is eyewaterinw - so not 50 50 - yes but goodness me I am not sure Harry realises the privelidge he has had for a man of his aptitude.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/03/2023 16:24

Republic have a whole report detailing the secrecy about the Royal Household

I know, Vera. It's very well researched and referenced too, but you'll get few thanks for linking it on here

I'd like to think monarchists would at least read it - not necessarily to turn into overnight republicans, but just to get the facts on what they're supporting - but TBH I doubt even that

CathyorClaire · 13/03/2023 16:27

Andrew has been cited as the third richest royal in the past and he can't not have known the score with the gravy train.

The fact he now appears to have lashed the lot on Apple watches and having £200k cars resprayed and is now bleating dismayed at his predicament just shows the level of entitlement he's attained.

Harold might want to take it as a salutary tale.

And re. the voluntary tax the royals pay it's worth noting both that the Duchies swing between public and private status depending on which gives their overlords the highest trouser take and that the late queen had the tax rate on shoots at Balmoral reduced to below the level paid by local businesses.

Roussette · 13/03/2023 16:48

And of course all the money stashed offshore Cayman Islands, Bermuda etc (Paradise papers revealed this, rather embarrassing as offshore is tax dodging)

Bluekerfuffle · 13/03/2023 19:32

Charles gets all the inheritance so will William.

Hopefully. It would be better off with him than a drug-addled unstable person and his grabby wife who don’t do any royal duties by choice.

CathyorClaire · 13/03/2023 20:34

And of course all the money stashed offshore Cayman Islands, Bermuda etc (Paradise papers revealed this, rather embarrassing as offshore is tax dodging)

Yep.

A not insubstantial £10m or so.

And on a side note the queen was also found to have invested in the exploitative Brighthouse.

BasiliskStare · 13/03/2023 21:06

One thing I would say is that money passing from monarch to monarch to save in IHT - I can sort of see that to keep the ship afloat.

I do think that if the monarchy was disbanded there would be a great deal of discussion ( & rightly so ) about how much each member should keep ( given they have been not subject to IHT or Income tax on various things )

At the moment I think there is what money they have or what they get from eg the Duchy of Cornwall , if it pays their way - that's OK . I do think there could be more taxes because it wouldn't make a huge amount of difference to them.

I definitely don't think Andrew should get money to stay in Royal Lodge. Frogmore cottage would be a lovely house for him I think & his ex wife ) & I do think if K&W were given Royal Lodge - Anmer house could be rented out as it was before and proceeds go to something else .

luckylavender · 13/03/2023 21:13

Wanttobefree2 · 12/03/2023 01:18

It does seem unfair but I guess historically all the estates belong to the Crown, if they are shared out between the kids each time a Monarch died there wouldn’t really be much left that sat with the Crown.

This

CathyorClaire · 13/03/2023 21:33

historically all the estates belong to the Crown

Which gained them by being best at wargames.

At the moment I think there is what money they have or what they get from eg the Duchy of Cornwall , if it pays their way - that's OK

The Duchies escaped incorporation into the Crown Estates by an unidentified historical anomaly and there are now both feudal and taxation issues attached to them.

The Duchies don't 'pay their way'. If only.

They act as a personal wallet while the rest of us pick up the bloated sundries.

CanOfPop · 13/03/2023 22:06

The estates belong to the crown and the Monarch hands them out as houses to who they choose. The land and houses that bring income, the Royal Family get 25% of the income. It includes hotels, farms, rented out houses. The Royal Family get a lot of income from this.

Fifi0000 · 14/03/2023 00:56

BasiliskStare · 13/03/2023 21:06

One thing I would say is that money passing from monarch to monarch to save in IHT - I can sort of see that to keep the ship afloat.

I do think that if the monarchy was disbanded there would be a great deal of discussion ( & rightly so ) about how much each member should keep ( given they have been not subject to IHT or Income tax on various things )

At the moment I think there is what money they have or what they get from eg the Duchy of Cornwall , if it pays their way - that's OK . I do think there could be more taxes because it wouldn't make a huge amount of difference to them.

I definitely don't think Andrew should get money to stay in Royal Lodge. Frogmore cottage would be a lovely house for him I think & his ex wife ) & I do think if K&W were given Royal Lodge - Anmer house could be rented out as it was before and proceeds go to something else .

This was the queen's personal wealth estimated at 650 million. The crown estates, duchy of Lancaster and duchy of Cornwall are not included in this which provides them with lots of additional income.

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Mothership4two · 14/03/2023 06:18

oldwhyno · 13/03/2023 14:56

doesn't really make much difference.

Royal Palaces, Royal Collections and Duchy lands are protected and providing a huge income so there never would come a time when their assets were whittled down to nothing.

Inkanta · 14/03/2023 06:33

BasiliskStare · 13/03/2023 16:13

@sydneysunset I do agree with you there - you stamp your foot and say it's not fair - but I do think Harry wants the family money , titles etc when it suits him ( which is not fair for most people ) but when it doesn't suit - he whinges . I do think ( in my opinion ) he is coming out of this whole thing as a hypocrite

No he doesn't!

user1492757084 · 15/03/2023 10:19

The wealth of the Monarch needs to be protected for indefinite years, for generations to come. The working royals don't earn outside wages and they need to stay apolitical and not reliant on the government nor the people.
Splitting the BRF assets each generation would mean that it is soon gone.
The extended family don't need to inherit great wealth.
While living they receive enough - secure housing, food, clothing, education etc. And if they want millions they can leave and make their own money.
It's similar with large properties. Once sold and split up the land is gone in a few generations. History, connection, a way of living,a successful business - all gone. Some things are way too valuable to ever be bought again so they need to be preserved.

CanOfPop · 15/03/2023 10:21

The Royal Family keep increasing their wealth. Philip was a penniless migrant and ended up a very rich man, all while he was a member of the Royal Family.

Maireas · 15/03/2023 10:28

Prince Philip a penniless migrant! 😂😂😂
With his connections to Earl Mountbatten of Burma and his heiress wife Edwina?!
He was hardly having to work shifts in a kebab house.

Novella4 · 15/03/2023 10:59

@user1492757084

His wealth needs protected you say ?
Hmm problem number 1 is that the Winsdors keep all details of their vast wealth secret . Sealed wills for 100 years etc . So let's have some transparency re their millions and millions - then we'll talk.
Easy to blithely stare these things

Btw - the history goes nowhere once the Windows are gone .

The problem is the Windsors have not modernised and are above the law - eg the only monarchy in europe to insist on a coronation . That makes the UK a laughing stock - it is especially unfortunate that we know all about how Charles and Camilla behaved and as loud as they can play ' Zadok the priest' - it will not drown out the memory of Diana
A little less 'history' and a bit more modern political philosophy please .

Re their multiple palaces - once opened to the public they may actually generate some tax income rather than sitting empty for months , fully guarded will the bill paid by us.

CanOfPop · 15/03/2023 11:05

Prince Philip had no personal wealth. He had lots of links as he was a member of the Greek Royal Family.

Maireas · 15/03/2023 11:14

Penniless he was not. Philip was related through blood or marriage to most of the Royal Families of Europe. He was from the House of Schleswig Holstein Sonderberg Glucksberg. Thus the monarchs of Spain, Denmark, Greece and Sweden are relatives. He went to school at Gordonstoun, thereafter living at Broadlands in Hampshire and Cadogan Square. He was a member of Gentlemans' clubs and yachting clubs. He had a tailor in Jermyn Street. He was always a man with connections to wealth, land ownership and aristocracy.

Foreversearch · 15/03/2023 12:23

Maireas · 15/03/2023 11:14

Penniless he was not. Philip was related through blood or marriage to most of the Royal Families of Europe. He was from the House of Schleswig Holstein Sonderberg Glucksberg. Thus the monarchs of Spain, Denmark, Greece and Sweden are relatives. He went to school at Gordonstoun, thereafter living at Broadlands in Hampshire and Cadogan Square. He was a member of Gentlemans' clubs and yachting clubs. He had a tailor in Jermyn Street. He was always a man with connections to wealth, land ownership and aristocracy.

Why would any relatives hand over large sums of their wealth? Yes they would be happy to fund PPs lifestyle by hosting, paying for him as a guest etc. but they wouldn’t diminish their wealth to enhance his. Gentlemen and Yacht clubs would give free membership due to his title for patronage.

Plus his wife, the Queen, would clearly use her income/wealth to support him.

Like a lot of people, titled, famous, next door neighbour etc. image and substance are two different things. PP enjoyed the lifestyle but wasn’t personally funding it all.

CanOfPop · 15/03/2023 12:27

Philip amassed wealth as a Royal.

Maireas · 15/03/2023 12:40

CanOfPop · 15/03/2023 12:27

Philip amassed wealth as a Royal.

Of course he did.
However, your claim that he was a "penniless immigrant" is nonsense.

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