Do you all find Charles, Camilla, William and Kate boring?

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I am genuinely interested, Because every single post I have seen about one of these four ends up getting derailed by Harry and Meghan.
Try it. Post about one of them and within a small number of posts people will be talking about Harry and Meghan. It happens again and again and again.
So do find these 4 really boring then? Or are you just so fascinated about Harry and Meghan you want to talk about them whenever you can?

She wrote a book and did Winfrey interviews criticising the Institution. Back when she left. It's out there if you want to look.

I think Meghan and Harry just brought more attention to the title and position trading that goes on with non-royaling royals. Lots do it in many of the European families too.

I think Meghan and Harry made a huge mistake by launching that website announcing their half-in, half-out idea the way and the timing they did because I really think they could have had exactly what they wanted if they hadn't demanded it in such a public fashion.

They basically put down in print that they wanted to be seen as royals and take part in the big events, and at the same time make lots of money on the side, and
because all the trademark applications for sussexroyal were in the public domain it was a blatant "we are going to use our royal status to make money" and the Queen was forced to publically deny them that option.

If they'd quietly slipped into just coming back for the big events, and got on with making money with their foundation / job opportunities and speaking gigs the Queen would have turned a blind eye and I think Charles would have continued slipping Harry a big chunk of change every year as well.

Half in half out is practically what all the non-working royals do - their royal status and proximity is what gets them their jobs, book contracts, speaking engagements, product endorsements.

That was her intelligence on display. He has no ideas.

Yes they are intensely boring and dull. But in reality no one with any verve, personality or intelligence would possibly want to sign up for such a dull and unfulfilling life. So in a sense they fit the role description perfectly. But let's be clear royalty was never glamorous or exciting - look at the Queen. They are there to endure like a good stone building. The Windsor's have always been dull as ditchwater - the least interesting part of this richly diverse, creative and sharply funny country. They were never any of those things.

I'm not saying that in contrast to H&M. They have demonstrated their unintelligence and boring self absorption with every waking breath. If only they would escape to oblivion.

We have no idea if they are boring an dull. We see them maybe 5%of the time in public eye. And then it's their duty to not be showbiz types, anti drama so yes in that sense they are boring. And everybody likes it that way.

But nobody knows how they are in private. Look at Harry's book and interviews. Who knew that he was such a jealous crybaby with an drug and drink problem at that. I mean he is smoking weed when his wife and children are asleep and all that other crap what he takes.

So let them be boring. And what they are up to in their private life's should stay private.

Well we do t know if in private they are hilarious and colourful, creative and intelligent. But it's a stretch.

So take Kate - if she is massively intelligent why would she volunteer for a life of cutting ribbons, looking pretty and being a fertile wife? Really? Anyone with intellectual capacity would not volunteer for that life. The rest of them born into it have been brainwashed and pressured into a restrictive life of duty. Luckily they are not super academic or bright so are suited to the awful burden of royal life. Any smart academic person would want to be like the Nordic cycling royals who have professional lives as lawyers, academics and accountants. Our lot wouldn't be up to that. They need their butlers to do everything.

And I really believe anyone with any individuality and character would not want the royal life for 5 minutes.it's a straitjacket.

Ok for example Kate. Nobody has said she is massively intelligent but she has a good university education. Also when is the last time you have seen Kate cutting a ribbon or opening something. It's a figure of speech.

They had in their foundation £16.4 million in 2021—96 percent of which was spent on charitable activities including financial grants. So do they a lot more then ribbon cutting.

So because she married a royal you look down on her for having children with the man she loves. But every other woman on the planet can have children without judgement.

She fell in love when she was nineteen years old. So for love she volunteered for that life. But it is also amazing life she leads. She goes to countries, meets people, has wealth. And quit frankly leads a better life then most. Yes it has drawbacks but so has a ordinary life.

I think some are confusing dutiful with boring. They are carrying out royal duties and serving our country. How do you expect them to behave? I think Kate has a balanced life between royalty and looking after her children. What is wrong with investing time and love in your children when they are young. If she was carrying out duties all the time she would be accused of neglect. They can’t win whatever they do.

pilates, I agree. I'm not entirely sure what people expect. The accusation that they're boring - well, no-one on these threads has a clue.

The difference between charismatic not boring Harry and Meghan and boring William and Kate is that Harry and Meghan have bared all to the cameras, laid everything out in books and interviews (highly choreographed and curated) and made themselves look the best they can be. Meghan's an actress for heaven's sake, so she knows exactly how to present the 'best bits'.

For all we know, William and Kate regularly have kitchen counter snogging sessions but they have the decorum not to have them professionally photographed and published for all.

I don't want a celebrity head of state, I don't want to know about their pettifogging personal dramas.

Rygo I disagree. There is nothing meritorious about a well educated woman wanting to just be a royal consort. I knew the Royal Foundation a few years back and frankly you're a huge optimist if you think the Royals do anything more than rubber stamp the major donations and reading speeches written for them. The Foundation add their private office are fully staffed to elicit and process funding applications and carry out due diligence, write speeches and brief them on each event they attend. They have very little personal involvement beyond a few meeting a year and a briefing before events. It's very clear that Kate rarely ever makes any public comments that are her own beyond the usual ' hVe you come far', 'I hope you did t wait too long', 'who are you here with?', and 'how has the charity supported you.'

I've also worked preparing royal charity visits with the Lord Lieutenant, the royal household, police and security add know how well they are stage managed and bound by protocol.

Kate stuck it out through years of if William Gadding about with other girlfriends playing pick me and she was eminently suitable because of her willingness to play the part of the modest, quiet consort who would look good and bear lots of heirs. Good for her. But I can't think many independent intelligent women would volunteer for it. It's eminently boring and pointless.

What absolute BS. That whole comment is a lie. LMAO. Do you really think people believe you? There are hundreds of videos of Kate on engagements proving you wrong. Also people who work with her ( from her own office who used to work for her and charities) who say other wise.

Also that comment how Kate stuck it out through years of William with other girlfriends is just laughable. What other girlfriends? LMAO. He has been with Kate since 2003. There hasn't been another girlfriend since then. This comment alone is very telling from you. She has been in a relationship with him for TWENTY years and you are still trying to repeat tabloid BS from 15/20 years ago. Move on from that tired story line.

You find it eminently boring and pointless doesn't mean that everybody thinks that way. And it is better then commenting on a site giving un feminists opinions about another woman and her choices in life.

She leads a very good life. She is married to the man she loves for twenty years. Has three healthy happy children. Her family is healthy. Gets to meet people and goes to countries most people can only dream about. Works on a topic she is passionate about. Has no money worries. Sure they are drawbacks just like any life she would have chosen. But it's her choice. And that wat feminism is al about isn't it.

@Bouledeneige what a nasty spiteful post

i think @Bouledeneige ’s post is completely uncontroversial, and pretty much self-evident, other than that I have no idea (or interest, particularly) on whether William has been free with his favours.

No it's nasty, spiteful and not the truth. So yes if it is full of lies it's controversial and not much self evident. It's just plain and simple lies. And no he hasn't been free with his "favours" : so again a lie.

She leads a very good life. She is married to the man she loves for twenty years. Has three healthy happy children. Her family is healthy. Gets to meet people and goes to countries most people can only dream about. Works on a topic she is passionate about. Has no money worries. Sure they are drawbacks just like any life she would have chosen. But it's her choice. And that wat feminism is al about isn't it.

How do we know the terms of their marriage? It is between them and they both seem very happy with whatever arrangement they have agreed upon. Open marriages are extremely common among the upper classes. It is hard to be together since the teenage years and maintain that excitement and sense of novelty. I don't think it means that they are constantly distracted or at it with other people, it may be about fulfilling an isolated need or seeking a new emotional experience for a short period of time. It is obviously not stopping them from being devoted to their children and working hard in their roles.

Poor Kate. With champions like these who would want enemies.

Championing is for dimmies who can't do mixed opinions.

Anyway - she has three beautiful children and is showing great interest in finding a portfolio to get stuck into. She has done well - she’s done as is expected of her which is no mean feat. It is important for her to be as anodyne as possible as is the same for the rest of the working royals.

It suits some people. It doesn’t suit others. It is a restricted life. It definitely has compensations. If you were seriously intellectual then it would t suit you. You are restricted with your voice but your support gives voice to others.

horses for courses. Whatever worked for them.

Yes I agree. One big yawn😴

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The protest group Republic needs to hang around these threads to understand what they are up against. With such fervent forelock tugging, that monarchy ain't going nowhere in a hurry.

That post is such an interesting study. On so many levels.

I wondered when the forelock tugging would be brought in 😂

It was an incredible post - I’ve just read it again and am shaking my head.

Any smart academic person would want to be like the Nordic cycling royals who have professional lives as lawyers, academics and accountants. Our lot wouldn't be up to that.

The Duke of Gloucester was an architect and he tried to carry on in private practice after his brother died. But the duties he had to undertake as an heir to the dukedom, etc, meant he had to resign his partnership. I remember there used to be photos of him in the newspapers of him cycling to work. He really didn't want the duties that he inherited but he did them out of loyalty.
Oh, and he got his degree at Cambridge. Does that qualify him as a smart academic person?