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The royal family

Edward the new Duke of Edinburgh

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SnottyLottie · 10/03/2023 09:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/03/10/king-charles-prince-edward-royal-family-title-duke-edinburgh/

In order to honour Edward’s 59th birthday

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IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:01

vera99 · 12/03/2023 20:36

You've made my point for me. Archaic, pointless titles. Edward dropped out of the Marines and yet still gets to wear a big fancy uniform, playing dress up in a uniform he didn’t earn and a title for a city to which he has no connection. It is feudal and out-of-touch.

I know! Some people even head off to California and insist everyone call them Duke and Duchess of Sussex, and they recently imposed the titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland upon their children! This, in a country whose existence is largely based on a rejection of the British monarchy! Crazy or what?

Imagine uncritically adoring such people! And then imagine that the adorers claim to be 'republicans'! That couldn't happen, could it? Nobody could be that delusional!

Could they?

vera99 · 12/03/2023 21:05

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 20:58

'Where's Edward's army, where is his authority earned in battle or honour ? Temping in the office of Lloyd's Webber's Really Useful Group after wimping out of the marines decades ago doesn't really cut it.'

Nasty.

No simply true. Indeed, I have missed out Ardent Productions.

In 1993, Edward formed the television production company Ardent Productions. Ardent was involved in the production of a number of documentaries and dramas, but Edward was accused in the media of using his royal connections for financial gain, and the company was referred to by some industry insiders as "a sad joke" due to a perceived lack of professionalism in its operations. Andy Beckett, writing in The Guardian, opined that "to watch Ardent's few dozen hours of broadcast output is to enter a strange kingdom where every man in Britain still wears a tie, where pieces to camera are done in cricket jumpers, where people clasp their hands behind their backs like guardsmen. Commercial breaks are filled with army recruiting advertisements".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Edward,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:07

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 20:58

'Where's Edward's army, where is his authority earned in battle or honour ? Temping in the office of Lloyd's Webber's Really Useful Group after wimping out of the marines decades ago doesn't really cut it.'

Nasty.

The 'republicans' and their assorted user names really don't do their cause many favours, do they?

Making sdnide remarks over certain family members while giddily fangirling over others is hardly a serious form of argument.

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:08

I have missed out Ardent Productions.

Maybe ur-Ardent 'It's a Royal Own Goal Knockout' too?

vera99 · 12/03/2023 21:10

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:01

I know! Some people even head off to California and insist everyone call them Duke and Duchess of Sussex, and they recently imposed the titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland upon their children! This, in a country whose existence is largely based on a rejection of the British monarchy! Crazy or what?

Imagine uncritically adoring such people! And then imagine that the adorers claim to be 'republicans'! That couldn't happen, could it? Nobody could be that delusional!

Could they?

A pivot coming - true Republicans on these threads have quite rightly said a curse on all these royals and taken a principled, ideological stance. When I have been bothered I have taken a more tactical, though broadly sympathetic view of Harry (as I read a pirated version of his book and enjoyed it) whilst espousing Republican views. Some soul-searching is in order, I shall need to consult with nilsoften and report back. 😁

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 21:10

No. Nasty. 'wimping out' FFS. Can you imagine what it must be like joining the marines, and then admitting it's not for you, and having that played out across the press as some kind of failure.

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:20

vera99 · 12/03/2023 21:10

A pivot coming - true Republicans on these threads have quite rightly said a curse on all these royals and taken a principled, ideological stance. When I have been bothered I have taken a more tactical, though broadly sympathetic view of Harry (as I read a pirated version of his book and enjoyed it) whilst espousing Republican views. Some soul-searching is in order, I shall need to consult with nilsoften and report back. 😁

I wouldn't call your views "broadly sympathetic". You seem almost giddy with excitement when you and your other user names discuss him and his wife, even though you wouldn't cross the road for either if they weren't royal. Which is why you haven't criticised his deep attachment to his royal status and belief in the monarchy. Fangirling doesn't usually involve critical thought, so I guess that's fair enough.

Just don't expect anyone to take your sundry user names seriously as 'republican' however.

vera99 · 12/03/2023 21:20

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 21:10

No. Nasty. 'wimping out' FFS. Can you imagine what it must be like joining the marines, and then admitting it's not for you, and having that played out across the press as some kind of failure.

As no doubt some of you would say to Harry 'man up'. The Queen was reportedly livid I am just digging in soil prepared by others.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5079315/Queen-livid-Edward-quitting-Marines.html

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 21:23

Isn't it odd how the Daily Mail is the newspaper equivalent of Mein Kampf until someone needs to slag off a member of the RF, then all of a sudden it's the fount of all wisdom.

Shall we have a look at some of the Mail's reporting on Harry and Meghan? As it's obviously gospel.

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:27

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 21:23

Isn't it odd how the Daily Mail is the newspaper equivalent of Mein Kampf until someone needs to slag off a member of the RF, then all of a sudden it's the fount of all wisdom.

Shall we have a look at some of the Mail's reporting on Harry and Meghan? As it's obviously gospel.

That's a theme of the RF forum.

Some posters have an entire bank of Twitter screenshots of years old tabloid articles that they drag out as 'evidence' when it suits them. While simultaneously telling anyone who disagrees with them that they are simpletons brainwashed by the bRiTisH mEDiA.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 12/03/2023 21:30

KrasiTime · 12/03/2023 21:01

I think Edward was incredibly gutsy actually to say the marines weren’t from him considering he must have known the stuff that would be said. Far braver to admit that it’s not for you.

He’s not the first & he won’t be the last to find a career isn’t what you thought it would be. Shame we can’t all be as perfect as you.

I agree with that. He knew the abuse he was going to get, and how disappointed his family would be.

To stand up and say “No, I’m not going to continue” is gutsy

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:34

vera99 · 12/03/2023 21:20

As no doubt some of you would say to Harry 'man up'. The Queen was reportedly livid I am just digging in soil prepared by others.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5079315/Queen-livid-Edward-quitting-Marines.html

I would never tell anyone to 'Man up'. Stupid expression.

What's your point here? Membership of the Marines is highly demanding. Most people wouldn't be able to handle it. Their website emphasises how rigorous the training is, and how it isn't for everyone. If Edward hadn't been the queen's son, he'd probably never have considered joining. That was the expectation for royals of his generation. Hopefully it's not anymore.

Don't you think it's admirable for someone in the public eye to acknowledge their limitations, even though he's going to come in for heavy criticism both publicly and privately? Or should he have just continued in a career for which he was clearly unsuited? Is this the advice you would give to a son?

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:37

Don't you think it's admirable for someone in the public eye to acknowledge their limitations

Absolutely dandy.

But it does beg the question of why he's still so keen to continue to play military dress-up.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 12/03/2023 21:38

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:37

Don't you think it's admirable for someone in the public eye to acknowledge their limitations

Absolutely dandy.

But it does beg the question of why he's still so keen to continue to play military dress-up.

Why did the Queen? Why does Princess Anne?

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:39

Why did the Queen? Why does Princess Anne?

Quite.

StartupRepair · 12/03/2023 21:39

In terms of cousinly responsibility - will George be called out in the future for allowing his Californian cousins to be brought up by a father who is a frequent drug user?

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 21:42

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:37

Don't you think it's admirable for someone in the public eye to acknowledge their limitations

Absolutely dandy.

But it does beg the question of why he's still so keen to continue to play military dress-up.

Because there is a close relationship between the royal family and the military, as there is in other monarchies. There is a long tradition of senior members of the royal family holding honorary military positions.

By all means criticise that tradition. Arguments can certainly be made against it. But making snide remarks about 'wimping out' is a bit of a low blow.

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:53

There is a long tradition of senior members of the royal family holding honorary military positions.

More archaic ridiculousness, then.

I'm astounded the much touted dawn of a 'modernised' monarchy is still hampered by being prepared to entertain such nonsense.

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 21:59

It's difficult to understand the importance of relationships between regiments and their colonels in chief, royal patrons, if you don't have a military background, or are not from a military family.

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 22:00

Sorry, meant to add, please don't denigrate those relationships.

IcedPurple · 12/03/2023 22:01

CathyorClaire · 12/03/2023 21:53

There is a long tradition of senior members of the royal family holding honorary military positions.

More archaic ridiculousness, then.

I'm astounded the much touted dawn of a 'modernised' monarchy is still hampered by being prepared to entertain such nonsense.

Charles has only been king for half a year.

You expect him to have already overturned complex relations going back decades, even centuries?

And maybe some in the military like the royal connection?

Coxspurplepippin · 12/03/2023 22:02

'And maybe some in the military like the royal connection?'

Many, many of them do.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 12/03/2023 22:28

vera99 · 12/03/2023 20:22

Who has made Edinburgh his home unlike the 'Duke' ...

Errr and your hero’s are living in Sussex are they?? Honestly your hypocrisy is beyond ridiculous, no wonder you love them so much, like attracts like.

MrsFinkelstein · 12/03/2023 22:37

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 12/03/2023 20:31

The very one.

Tommy Sheppard is an absolute bampot, an embarrassment to Edinburgh, and a typical SNP twat.

BadgerB · 13/03/2023 09:14

MarshaMelrose · 10/03/2023 11:18
It might be boring, but it is not hard work at all when you compare it to jobs which are actually hard work.
Given the choice, would you rather be a nurse in a busy ward or a member of the RF?

Actually I rather scrub floors or dig holes than go out all dressed up and try to be charming to random strangers.
Tho' I'd like the money that goes with being royal..