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Lilibet christened and will be using the title Princess

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miri1985 · 08/03/2023 12:25

What happened to just call me Harry? Why would they want their children to be burdened with titles?

“When reached by PEOPLE, a spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said: "I can confirm that Princess Lilibet Diana was christened on Friday, March 3 by the Archbishop of Los Angeles, the Rev John Taylor."

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-daughter-princess-lilibet-christened-california/

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Hooklander · 08/03/2023 18:26

jeffgoldblum · 08/03/2023 18:16

Very true @Howsimplywonderful ! , not surprised, however maybe the error was to make it sound more impressive!
Wouldn't put it past him!

Ah yes, the 'global head of bishoprics' perhaps sadly eluded Omid on this occasion.

Howsimplywonderful · 08/03/2023 18:28

Poor Omid is rather error prone

LuluBlakey1 · 08/03/2023 18:29

When Archie was born they were insistent in the announcement that he would be known only as 'Archie'. He was actually Earl of Dumbarton but they did not wish to use the title. Suddenly they want to use Princess and presumably Prince.

I wonder why they felt the need to announce the christening- they whine about wanting privacy and could have kept it private. Except that it allowed them to let it be known that Charles and William were invited but did not attend' and that they intend to use the titles.

Xenia · 08/03/2023 18:30

"The couple's statement said Lilibet was 'christened on Friday, March 3 by the Archbishop of Los Angeles, the Rev John Taylor'.

But Reverend Taylor is actually the Bishop of Los Angeles in the Episcopal Church in the US, which is part of the global Anglican Communion.

The Archbishop of Los Angeles is the Most Reverend José H. Gomez, who leads the US's largest Catholic community.

Does this mean Lilibet can never join the Church of England?

Conducting the ceremony in the US means that Lilibet will not be considered a 'member' of the Church of England automatically.

But she could later join a Church of England congregation if she came to Britain.

Does Lilibet need to be christened in a Church of England ceremony in future?

No. Because the Episcopal Church is part of the worldwide Anglican Communion, the christening in the US is valid in the UK.

A royal baby does also not need to be christened in a Church of England church to go into the royal line of succession."

vera99 · 08/03/2023 18:31

Howsimplywonderful · 08/03/2023 18:28

Poor Omid is rather error prone

Give me one Omid over a hundred Dan Wooton's any time.

Roussette · 08/03/2023 18:32

vera99 · 08/03/2023 18:31

Give me one Omid over a hundred Dan Wooton's any time.

Or a million Piers's. Or a thousand Levin's !!

JimHensonWasAGenius · 08/03/2023 18:33

"Lest we forget" that you are completely wrong.

The Kaiser was Queen Victoria's Grandson, not Cousin.

Howsimplywonderful · 08/03/2023 18:33

@vera99

i’m no fan of Dan Wootton (toad) but Omid needs to learn to fact check.

Xenia · 08/03/2023 18:34

By the way correct above - Harry baptised at the chapel at Windsor but Prince William at Buckingham Palace.

Xenia · 08/03/2023 18:36

"Are christenings allowed outside .. church buildings?

Baptisms and christenings normally take place in churches, although there is no absolute requirement for them to be held there.

The Book of Common Prayer, which is used by the Church of England and the Episcopal Church, states under the heading 'private baptism of infants' that: 'The Minister of every parish shall warn the people that without great cause and necessity they procure not their children to be baptized at home in their houses. But when need shall compel them so to do, then Baptism shall be administered on this fashion.'

In the UK, the Church of England states that 'unless there are very exceptional circumstances, a christening must always take place in a church, so it's usually not possible to have a christening at home, in a function room or outdoors'.

Is Lilibet the only Episcopalian in the Royal Family?

It is not believed that any other current members of the Royal Family have been baptised by the Episcopal Church.

Meghan was ..... confirmed into the Church of England in 2018.

The couple broke with a longstanding tradition by holding the baptism in the US, with royal babies normally christened in a Church of England church."

vera99 · 08/03/2023 18:36

Roussette · 08/03/2023 18:32

Or a million Piers's. Or a thousand Levin's !!

😂👋

Price21210 · 08/03/2023 18:39

Need I remind everyone that Lilibet and Archie are also British as well as Americans. Why would anyone have a problem with those children using their titles? I am glad Harry had her christened that way as he should have! If it's him and not a media stunt.

Was Lilibet actually christened as a Princess or was that the media adding that title?

BadgerB · 08/03/2023 18:40

vera99
I won't go there, but by 1937 the true evil of Hitler and the Nazis was all there for anybody to see, ask any Jewish person but back in 1933 it was all a big joke.

It WAS a big joke at first. Small boys used to go around with something stuck under their noses as a moustache, shouting Heil, and giving the salute. The Nazis seemed ridiculous at first. Very few foresaw the horrors to come. But, there you go - hindsight is a great gift

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:44

BadgerB · 08/03/2023 18:09

miri1985 · Today 12:25
a spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said: "I can confirm that Princess Lilibet Diana was christened on Friday, March 3 by the Archbishop of Los Angeles, the Rev John Taylor."

This sounds as though she has been given "Princess" as a Christian name at her baptism. It's quiet possible to do this. In the U.S. aren't people baptised Prince, or Earl etc?

Not that it's very Christian...

Like Jordan and Peter Andre’s daughter. Classy.

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 18:48

Price21210 · 08/03/2023 18:39

Need I remind everyone that Lilibet and Archie are also British as well as Americans. Why would anyone have a problem with those children using their titles? I am glad Harry had her christened that way as he should have! If it's him and not a media stunt.

Was Lilibet actually christened as a Princess or was that the media adding that title?

It was their spokesperson adding that title. You don't get christened with a title.

I agree. They have a right to their title and can use it if they want. It just seems contradictory as Meghan said titles bring a lot of pain (doesn't stop her using hers!) but it's their birthright if they wish to use it. Personally, I doubt a 1yo has expressed a wish.

Also she was asked if she wanted them to have a title and she said if it meant they got paid security. And if course it doesn't mean that anymore.

It all seems incongruous to their antithesis to the Royal institution and their love of free and egalitarian America

Roussette · 08/03/2023 18:49

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:44

Like Jordan and Peter Andre’s daughter. Classy.

She's hardly been christened 'Princess Lillibet' !

Otherwise she'd be known as Princess Princess Lillibet !

Here you go from the press, for the confused on here
“Princess Lilibet Diana” was christened on Friday 3 March by the bishop of Los Angeles, the Rt Rev John H Taylor.

That doesn't mean her christian name is Princess !!

BadgerB · 08/03/2023 18:51

However in the UK I thought C of E baptism except where a child is dying must be in church? Is that not the rule in the USA?

It's certainly the case in the U.K. Almost always at the main Sunday morning service. Not really very Christian to do it privately.

BeatricePortinari · 08/03/2023 18:52

Couldn't anyone call themselves a Princess? No one could stop you surely?

It's not like imitating a police officer is it?

If you started styling yourself Princess Lynne from Bridgend you could presumably?
(Made up normal name and place)

Or could the King have you arrested 😁?

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:53

LuluBlakey1 · 08/03/2023 18:29

When Archie was born they were insistent in the announcement that he would be known only as 'Archie'. He was actually Earl of Dumbarton but they did not wish to use the title. Suddenly they want to use Princess and presumably Prince.

I wonder why they felt the need to announce the christening- they whine about wanting privacy and could have kept it private. Except that it allowed them to let it be known that Charles and William were invited but did not attend' and that they intend to use the titles.

What they say and what they do are two entirely different things. They live in a crisis management sort of way - most of the crises being of their own making.

BeatricePortinari · 08/03/2023 18:53

I wonder what Zara and Peter Philips think about the Princess/Prince hoohaa?

I wonder if they're all secretly 'Waaagh!!!!' I should have been a Princess!!
Or if they don't give a shit?

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:54

BadgerB · 08/03/2023 18:51

However in the UK I thought C of E baptism except where a child is dying must be in church? Is that not the rule in the USA?

It's certainly the case in the U.K. Almost always at the main Sunday morning service. Not really very Christian to do it privately.

Indeed.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 08/03/2023 18:56

BeatricePortinari · 08/03/2023 18:52

Couldn't anyone call themselves a Princess? No one could stop you surely?

It's not like imitating a police officer is it?

If you started styling yourself Princess Lynne from Bridgend you could presumably?
(Made up normal name and place)

Or could the King have you arrested 😁?

It's OK as long as it's not done with the intent to defraud. If you tried to pass yourself off as an actual member of the Royal family, you might be in trouble. Just calling yourself 'Princess' is fine.

Roussette · 08/03/2023 18:56

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:54

Indeed.

Perhaps they didn't want to overtake a Sunday service. I've been to a private christening before.

And surely RF christenings aren't in the middle of a Sunday service for the general public?

Arrocahar23 · 08/03/2023 18:56

Roussette · 08/03/2023 18:49

She's hardly been christened 'Princess Lillibet' !

Otherwise she'd be known as Princess Princess Lillibet !

Here you go from the press, for the confused on here
“Princess Lilibet Diana” was christened on Friday 3 March by the bishop of Los Angeles, the Rt Rev John H Taylor.

That doesn't mean her christian name is Princess !!

People are not “confused”, they’re just sniggering at yet another Markle farce.

DuchessOfPort · 08/03/2023 18:56

BadgerB · 08/03/2023 18:51

However in the UK I thought C of E baptism except where a child is dying must be in church? Is that not the rule in the USA?

It's certainly the case in the U.K. Almost always at the main Sunday morning service. Not really very Christian to do it privately.

Prince William was christened at Buckingham Palace. I really think that 2 parents can do what they like with their own children’s christenings.

hopefully they haven’t just used the announcement to try to get one over on their family though. And I don’t want to see they’re moaning about it in years to come in newspapers. “SNUBBED! Harry found Meghan weeping on the floor after King declined christening invitation in US with a whole week’s notice”.

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