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Harry and Meghan EVICTED from Frogmore, keys handed to Prince Andrew

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tatalan · 01/03/2023 06:01

What do you think?

I'm not surprised. I wonder if Harry and Meghan will buy a new UK residence.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 01/03/2023 08:11

tatalan · 01/03/2023 06:14

Charles has EVERY RIGHT to evict them but I firmly believe they should be paid back the renovation costs.

Effectively Charles paid for the renovations. He just gave Harry the money to do so in a face saving exercise for his son.

As for this eviction I am surprised. I’ve just seen a number of news sources are reporting on it.

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:13

C8H10N4O2 · 01/03/2023 07:57

Punitive to Andrew? You have to be joking. They enabled and connived Airmiles Andy profiting from access to royals/royal palaces for decades. They covered up all his behaviour for decades. Even when faced with the law and no longer able to cover it up by bunging a few £££ at the problem they bailed him out to the tune of £12m+. They have consistently protected Andrew and closed ranks around him.

Lets wait and see if he actually moves to Frogmore or if its being handed to him for use by the young Porks.

The Queen gifted Frogmore to Harry - seems odd then for Charles to take it back and regift it to someone else. He should be reimbursing them if he is withdrawing a gift previously given to them by the Queen. I

The expensive PR machine so busy promoting the Doolittles and Camilla as "working" royals seems to have slipped on this one. King takes back Queen's gift to Harry to hand it over to the dodgy prince isn't a great look, especially outside of the UK.

Oh I agree with you, that's why I said they like to seem - they brief all sorts and rarely follow through.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 01/03/2023 08:14

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:08

When did they say they have no intention of living in the UK again? maybe not full time but I don't recall them saying they would never stay for short periods.

Thus far, it’s been whistle stop tours. They don’t need a whole residence for that. As others have said, perhaps it’s by mutual consent.

Roussette · 01/03/2023 08:14

Vermin · 01/03/2023 08:00

@Roussette yes they did pay after - H&M reimbursed the taxpayer for the £2.4m they had previously used on converting frogmore from 5 flats to one family home. They did indeed do so after they left but under pressure as a result of accepting taxpayer funding to create a home that they no longer lived in.

They did it, that's all that matters.

And who knows but there was no pressure and it was just a media story.

As I say, the RF got a good deal.
They were gifted the property by HMQ. Renovations were needed structurally. They paid for those.
Gift taken back. They still paid for it to be modernised and renovated, and now it isn't theirs to use anymore if this story is true.

Vermin · 01/03/2023 08:15

Didn’t they stay in a London hotel for one of the recent whistle stops? Or did I imagine that?

54isanopendoor · 01/03/2023 08:15

Maireas · 01/03/2023 07:53

Ok.
Windsor is a place. That's all.

@Maireas No, it's been in many news papers that Charles has been involved in the NI 'deal' that Sunak is promoting so heavily. I assumed the 'Windsor' part of the 'Windsor Framework' was because of this, rather than where it was signed. If it is mere co-incidence as you suggest then it cannot have escaped RS & Charles himself that it makes it appear that Royalty Approves. The Queen tried hard to (officially at least) remain above politics, largelly successfully. Charles has a long history of interfering (the 'green ink' letters) & it is not a good development.

Like @Nimbostratus100 I don't give a fig who lives where / bonks who(m)/ wears which tiara. But I DO care that the power of the Monarchy is still threaded heavily through British Society & that they don't pay taxes & do shelter perverts (hence why I clicked on this thread as I do care that Andrew is given a place to live when (imvho obvs) he should be doing time at HMP.

Morestrangethings · 01/03/2023 08:16

tatalan · 01/03/2023 07:51

I know H&M had a lease they renewed last year. They were either not given the choice to renew it this year or chose not to.

That must be the shittiest leasing condition ever. Spend over 2 million pounds renovating a house but only have a year to year leasing agreement. What am I missing?

(I know the British people originally paid for the renovations but I’ve read H&M paid it all back).

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:16

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/03/2023 08:11

Effectively Charles paid for the renovations. He just gave Harry the money to do so in a face saving exercise for his son.

As for this eviction I am surprised. I’ve just seen a number of news sources are reporting on it.

Nah, Harry definitely paid for it, acknowledged in the yearly financial reports.

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Littleflowerseverywhere · 01/03/2023 08:17

I’d not believe this is what it is. It’s highly likely they agreed this and it’s not eviction as such, but a mutual decision.

ReneBumsWombats · 01/03/2023 08:17

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/03/2023 08:11

Effectively Charles paid for the renovations. He just gave Harry the money to do so in a face saving exercise for his son.

As for this eviction I am surprised. I’ve just seen a number of news sources are reporting on it.

I get confused about RF funding situations. How did Charles pay for the renovations? Is it because Harry was being completely supported by Charles at that point?

Roussette · 01/03/2023 08:18

54isanopendoor · 01/03/2023 08:15

@Maireas No, it's been in many news papers that Charles has been involved in the NI 'deal' that Sunak is promoting so heavily. I assumed the 'Windsor' part of the 'Windsor Framework' was because of this, rather than where it was signed. If it is mere co-incidence as you suggest then it cannot have escaped RS & Charles himself that it makes it appear that Royalty Approves. The Queen tried hard to (officially at least) remain above politics, largelly successfully. Charles has a long history of interfering (the 'green ink' letters) & it is not a good development.

Like @Nimbostratus100 I don't give a fig who lives where / bonks who(m)/ wears which tiara. But I DO care that the power of the Monarchy is still threaded heavily through British Society & that they don't pay taxes & do shelter perverts (hence why I clicked on this thread as I do care that Andrew is given a place to live when (imvho obvs) he should be doing time at HMP.

Totally agree. The Windsor Framework put together followed by Charles shaking Ursula von der Leyens hand and having tea with her at Windsor Castle. He's already meddling in politics, he just can't help himself.

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:18

Morestrangethings · 01/03/2023 08:16

That must be the shittiest leasing condition ever. Spend over 2 million pounds renovating a house but only have a year to year leasing agreement. What am I missing?

(I know the British people originally paid for the renovations but I’ve read H&M paid it all back).

Right, it's an awful deal. H&M did pay it back.

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Roussette · 01/03/2023 08:19

Morestrangethings · 01/03/2023 08:16

That must be the shittiest leasing condition ever. Spend over 2 million pounds renovating a house but only have a year to year leasing agreement. What am I missing?

(I know the British people originally paid for the renovations but I’ve read H&M paid it all back).

Yes a shitty deal for H&M, but it is them after all, so anything goes doesn't it...

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William did manage to get Andrew on that flight to Balmoral. Harry chartered his own plane. The preferences are pretty clear.

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follyfoot37 · 01/03/2023 08:26

@tatalan Sorry, occupational hazard picking such things up when I read stuff!

Emphasise away!

C8H10N4O2 · 01/03/2023 08:26

Roussette · 01/03/2023 08:18

Totally agree. The Windsor Framework put together followed by Charles shaking Ursula von der Leyens hand and having tea with her at Windsor Castle. He's already meddling in politics, he just can't help himself.

Charles was never going to keep out of politics. Let him at it and let it be seen.

Once the gloss of bread and circuses has worn off , when the Queen is a memory, even the megabucks spent on PR will not convince the public that this massively entitled collection are worth the money.

queenofarles · 01/03/2023 08:30

Is it a downgrade for Andrew?
I thought so too 😂,
Charles must really hate him, the cottage is furnished by the people responsible for the gimcrack that is Soho farmhouse !

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:30

C8H10N4O2 · 01/03/2023 08:26

Charles was never going to keep out of politics. Let him at it and let it be seen.

Once the gloss of bread and circuses has worn off , when the Queen is a memory, even the megabucks spent on PR will not convince the public that this massively entitled collection are worth the money.

I think Charles will get away with it, the british public are far more accepting and malleable than you would think. Brexit has taught me this.

This eviction story itself is nothing other than a distraction.

Working royals getting some stick, let's talking Harry and Meghan and generate some mockery or outrage.

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Vermin · 01/03/2023 08:31

@Morestrangethings thise repairing leases are pretty usual on estates - I have various friends who have rentals on estates in Oxfordshire and Hampshire and they take on the responsibility of upgrading and maintaining the property, which ultimately has to be handed back. With stamp duty etc they figure out that upgrading / decorating and the risk of having to hand back is worth it. One lot have had 20 odd years in a house they converted at their own expense from an agricultural property in a location that is normally completely unavailable on one of the country’s grand estates. Another was less lucky and spent tens of thousands on a place that was called back after only 8 years but they still got 8 years in the middle of private parkland - literally money can’t buy stuff. There are houses like that on eg the Blenheim estate, Michael Douglas and Catherine zeta jones just took one on the royal estate in at james’ palace. It’s the way things work with ultra high end estate rentals and it’s quite competitive to get one in the first place

ancientgran · 01/03/2023 08:31

tatalan · 01/03/2023 06:14

Charles has EVERY RIGHT to evict them but I firmly believe they should be paid back the renovation costs.

Why? They spent vast amounts of money to get what they wanted, no one asked them to, no one forced them to. Whoever moves in next, Andrew or anyone, might hate what they've done.

The only thing that should be considered is if there was essential maintenance work like repairing a roof or replacing rotten woodwork. Other than that it was their choice.

Roussette · 01/03/2023 08:31

C8H10N4O2 · 01/03/2023 08:26

Charles was never going to keep out of politics. Let him at it and let it be seen.

Once the gloss of bread and circuses has worn off , when the Queen is a memory, even the megabucks spent on PR will not convince the public that this massively entitled collection are worth the money.

I agree. I bet the Queen told him to steer clear when he becomes Monarch. He's never been able to. If the 'Windsor Agreement' goes tits up, he's going to look stupid. It is only an agreement in principle at the moment. And there's a lot of angry people with RS saying how wonderfully NI have got it all. When we in the rest of the UK haven't.
It's not over till the fat lady sings. Charles entertaining the President of the European Commission is him blatantly ratifying the deal.

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:32

ancientgran · 01/03/2023 08:31

Why? They spent vast amounts of money to get what they wanted, no one asked them to, no one forced them to. Whoever moves in next, Andrew or anyone, might hate what they've done.

The only thing that should be considered is if there was essential maintenance work like repairing a roof or replacing rotten woodwork. Other than that it was their choice.

The renovation wasn't cosmetic. It was inhabitable and already earmarked for severe work. H&M just took on the burden.

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00100001 · 01/03/2023 08:32

tatalan · 01/03/2023 08:23

William did manage to get Andrew on that flight to Balmoral. Harry chartered his own plane. The preferences are pretty clear.

Yes the sin of a dead and dying mother will take priority over a grandson.... Sozzles

MyPurpleHeart · 01/03/2023 08:33

Im more shocked that its being reported as a 2 bed. Have you seen the size of it!??

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