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Camilla's grandchildren to take star role in the coronation

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Viviennemary · 26/02/2023 12:07

The DM is reporting this (who else). Apprently Camilla's grandchildren are to play a prominent role in the coronation alongside the other heirs. Not sure I agree with this. Although I quite like Camila now although I didn't used to.

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SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun · 26/02/2023 14:49

There have been lots of Queens over the years who are Queen because they are married to a King. They have all been a Queen Consort but usually just called The Queen or Queen Alexandra for example. Camilla is already The Queen, Queen Camilla and a Queen Consort but we have unusually be referring to her as The Queen Consort to differentiate her from Queen Elizabeth (who was a Queen Regnant) and to keep the people who don't like her a bit happier. I don't think those people will every change their minds to be honest but perhaps the press will start referring to "The Queen" or "Queen Camilla" after the coronation.

No her kids will not get titles. They are not in the line of succession nor working royals. These days it is hard enough to use a title if you are a blood relation in line to the throne with an automatic title granted but not a working royal. (Harry and Edward's Children are all automatic Princes and Princesses but don't use the title)

Her grandchildren are only going to hold up a canopy while she is anointed. I think that is quite nice. Apparently is is usually duchesses who do it. I don't know who holds up the King's canopy. It would be quite sweet if his 5 Grandchildren did the same but maybe Lily is a bit too young and that assumes that the Sussex's will be there at all.

Novella4 · 26/02/2023 14:52

So this isn't the first side chick being crowned ?

Do tell us more !

SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun · 26/02/2023 14:56

Novella4 · 26/02/2023 14:52

So this isn't the first side chick being crowned ?

Do tell us more !

What do you mean? Anne Boleyn was The Queen and she could be classed as a "side chick I guess". All the women who have been married to Kings have been crowned and have been The Queen while their husband was alive and Queen first name after he died and at that point a Dowager Queen.

MrsOrange · 26/02/2023 14:57

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Jesus wept, I'm not her biggest fan but talk about women pulling down women.

Novella4 · 26/02/2023 15:02

@SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun

Oh yes - I agree - lots of 16th century overtones going on here

Fifthtimelucky · 26/02/2023 15:08

Of course she isn't the first.

The last two were Queen Elizabeth (who became known as the Queen Mother) who was crowned alongside her husband George VI in 1937.

Before that it was Queen Mary, wife of George V (both crowned in 1911) and before that, Queen Alexandra, wife of Edward VIII (1902).

But it's not true to say that all the women married to kings are crowned. Whilst all 6 of Henry VIII's wives became queens, only the first two were actually crowned.

Purplecatshopaholic · 26/02/2023 15:11

Binfluencer · 26/02/2023 12:10

We shouldn't even be having a Coronation when nurses are resorting to food backs. Completely tone deaf, hateful, evil thing to do.

Who cares which spoilt rich ppl attend?

Absolutely this. I can’t believe the Tory govt/Royals are going for this - oh wait, yes I can. I won’t be watching though, and I couldn’t care less who attends.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 15:12

Fifthtimelucky · 26/02/2023 15:08

Of course she isn't the first.

The last two were Queen Elizabeth (who became known as the Queen Mother) who was crowned alongside her husband George VI in 1937.

Before that it was Queen Mary, wife of George V (both crowned in 1911) and before that, Queen Alexandra, wife of Edward VIII (1902).

But it's not true to say that all the women married to kings are crowned. Whilst all 6 of Henry VIII's wives became queens, only the first two were actually crowned.

I think Novella's attempt at snide bitchery was about the fact that a former mistress is now a wife and being crowned as queen consort.

Amazing how involved professed republicans get with this stuff.

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Viviennemary · 26/02/2023 15:12

I think Camilla might be the first Queen to be crowned who already had children by a previous marriage. There is Elinor of Aquitaine but her first marriage was annulled. Can't think of anybody else.

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purpledalmation · 26/02/2023 15:16

sashagabadon · 26/02/2023 14:22

Nurses can pick up £25 per hour on a weekend bank shift and they are very well educated professionals too.
i’m not convinced the “nurses using food banks” defence against the coronation is a very winning argument. Especially as it’s never actually used by nurses.
if nurses worked a 12 hour shift the coronation weekend they could probably earn nearly 300 quid!

Most nurses are married so picking and choosing bank holiday shifts are not usually possible.

HedwigIsMyDemon · 26/02/2023 15:18

Working royals 😂😂😂😂😂

I wish I had their “job” 🙄.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 15:19

Viviennemary · 26/02/2023 15:12

I think Camilla might be the first Queen to be crowned who already had children by a previous marriage. There is Elinor of Aquitaine but her first marriage was annulled. Can't think of anybody else.

And Eleanor was reputed to have been the mistress of Henry II's father, although that was probably the standard misogyny directed at any woman near the seat of male power.

nonheme · 26/02/2023 15:21

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ArcaneWireless · 26/02/2023 15:26

Bingo.

I claim my £5.

Fifthtimelucky · 26/02/2023 15:30

This all reminds me that my favourite coronation story is that George IV refused to let his (admittedly estranged) wife attend his coronation in 1821.

Queen Caroline turned up to Westminster Abbey and tried to get in but was denied entry!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 15:35

Viviennemary · 26/02/2023 15:12

I think Camilla might be the first Queen to be crowned who already had children by a previous marriage. There is Elinor of Aquitaine but her first marriage was annulled. Can't think of anybody else.

Henry IV's second wife had children and was crowned the year after their marriage.

www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/pevensey-castle/history/joan-of-navarre/

BebbanburgIsMine · 26/02/2023 15:51

@Caviarandgelatine

I'm a single parent living on disability benefits. I've sat in my house with no heating or hot water and sometimes barely any food. I've had to use foodbanks on occasion.

I've always loved a big event like a royal wedding or a jubilee. Now I'm looking forward to the coronation, I think it's going to be a fantastic day.

Novella4 · 26/02/2023 16:18

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain

Ha! I'm so involved - you'd better believe it .
I'll keep commenting on the corrupt Windsors for as long they keep taking from the public and interfering in laws .

And rather like all the talk of 'forgiveness ' on the 'head of the church' thread - the forgiveness only extends so far .

And the snide comments from royalists re their opponents are ignored

But I don't report the personal attacks on me . They don't bother me .

AmandaJonah · 26/02/2023 16:23

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 12:51

I suppose that this is the big show of approval for Camilla The Queen and also an acknowledgment of the blended family structure by the RF (now that Eugenie is also in a blended family and brings her step-son to official events).

It will be strange if Harry/Archie are missing and the non-bio non-royal kids are given too much of a prominent role.

It will be par for the course in divorced families. The man's kids often are pushed out/downgraded. They can't do that to William as he is Heir, but the rest can be side lined.

ringofrosies · 26/02/2023 16:23

I like Camilla and I like that her children don’t seem
like “hangers-on”. Why wouldn’t her own
childrn or grandchildren have involvement in her part of the coronation.

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 16:33

AmandaJonah · 26/02/2023 16:23

It will be par for the course in divorced families. The man's kids often are pushed out/downgraded. They can't do that to William as he is Heir, but the rest can be side lined.

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You are right - it affects them too!
I have noticed the way in which she seems to have spent years always hanging around the sidelines waiting for a snatched moment with Charles, dropping everything for a swing on the chandeliers at his beck and call, then slithered her way into the core of the family (completely winning over the two key members : the late queen and William).
Now, she is suddenly top billing in an event which is all about the succession of bloodline royals.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 16:35

Novella4 · 26/02/2023 16:18

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain

Ha! I'm so involved - you'd better believe it .
I'll keep commenting on the corrupt Windsors for as long they keep taking from the public and interfering in laws .

And rather like all the talk of 'forgiveness ' on the 'head of the church' thread - the forgiveness only extends so far .

And the snide comments from royalists re their opponents are ignored

But I don't report the personal attacks on me . They don't bother me .

Well, OK. Everyone needs a pointless hobby, I guess.

Fifthtimelucky · 26/02/2023 17:08

As I understand it (from the article in The Times today), Camilla's grandchildren, who are all teenagers, will have some sort of role in her coronation (not Charles's). That seems perfectly reasonable to me, and hardly indicative of Charles downgrading his own children and grandchildren.

Charles's children and grandchildren may have a role in his coronation. Presumably William, as next in line will and we hear that George might have some sort of role. But all his grandchildren are much younger. I suspect that Charlotte would be able to do something if required, but it would be extremely risky to involve the younger children in any official capacity.

As for Harry, personally I think it would be a shame if he isn't there. How sad for Charles to be crowned without his son present. But that's something they need to sort out between them.

Emanresu9 · 26/02/2023 17:09

magicstar1 · 26/02/2023 12:15

She is being crowned as Queen, so of course her family would be involved.

Exactly. It’s a big deal! Bloody hell if I was becoming the queen I’d be inviting my grandchildren to have a role too!

MrsFinkelstein · 26/02/2023 18:00

Viviennemary · 26/02/2023 15:12

I think Camilla might be the first Queen to be crowned who already had children by a previous marriage. There is Elinor of Aquitaine but her first marriage was annulled. Can't think of anybody else.

Edward IV married Elizabeth Woodeville who had 2 children by her 1st husband.

Think there has been at least another 1 maybe?

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